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PostPosted: Thu Jan 23, 2014 8:59 am 
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Hello everyone - this is my first post and have to say I really appreciate all feedback, positive or negative, in every area of my life. Quick summary about me. For most of my life iv gotten women through my good looks, intelligence and large physical stature. Played football was big man on campus in college. Had a LOT of opportunities and looking back if I had the slightest conception of game I would have f closed a shit ton of women. Still I've slept with around 150.

Anyway, 6 months out of a long traumatic engagement which thankfully ended and just met this very young, somewhat silly, but incredibly kind HB10 who is a minor celebrity, talented, and has a ton of men chasing her. Got her number, texted back and forth for a week set up a date and she flaked. Froze her out for a day and she came back with a scenario where she wanted to "make it up to me". I say ok, and mistakenly allow her to control the date, i.e. set time and place. Stupid. Then shes four hours late to our date. I give her shit, but ultimately still meet up with her. Mistake 2. Its very early in the morning, shes obviously into me, lots of kino, touching my leg, playfully hitting me. Unfortunately I didn't escalate properly because there were a ton of people intruding on our conversation constantly, one guy in particular who is completely in love with her but her own age who looks at with complete disinterest. She touches my leg, I don't escalate to face, etc. Ultimately I get tired and she drives me home. We're in the car, and I'm kinda turned off at this point, not by her, but by the situation I failed to control. So she looks at me with her big brown eyes, I give her a hug, go inside and text, "dont feel bad you didn't get a kiss, it wasn't a date, you gotta work for it." She texts back "no thats all you I was waiting for my kiss." Mistake 3. I lost the window, TON of sexual tension. Texts me the next day and flakes on plans we made the night before because she didn't get home til 5am and had to work at 11. "dieing shes so tired". Also texts me "haha you are probably taking a deep breath and thinking to yourself this girl is going to get punched in the face when I see her." At this point I'm really pissed, because she was adamant about our plans the next day. I respond with "nah i had fun under the circumstances." Mistake 4. Should have frozen her our immediately but at this point really do like her so accidentally conveyed that I am an enormous pussy, making me even more frustrated. I probably could have pressed, made her keep the date, gotten a quick bite, kissed her and sent her home. Wait until next day, text her "what time am I seeing you tomorrow." No response. Its been two days and she always responds. Am I completely fucked? Going to reiterate that I do have strong feelings for her, enjoy our dynamic, and want to date her. She's funny, very kind to people in person, two attributes I value highly. I meet a lot of attractive women, mostly wannabe models, but about 99% are completely vapid, devoid of any kind of morals, and are only after money. I only follow up with women I can see dating. Likely a problem in and of itself but I don't want to get hung up on this now.

The Good- She was very attracted to me when we did meet, said how cute I looked more than a few times along with the kino she displayed constantly. I played aloof in person, distant stare, lots of negs, etc but created sexual tension effectively with lean - ins, triangle stares, and humor. Loves older men, in person I look and act alpha which is definitely her "type." Very kind and patient, which I can't over-emphathize, maybe shell cut me some slack for fucking up.

The Bad - Made tons of mistakes. Fucked up a major sticking point. Ruined alpha image. Initially age range could have been a problem but I usually pass for no older than 28, usually 25 to 26. She thought 26. Im 32. Shes 20. Her very unique look gives her a short attention span and I think she makes her mind up very quickly.

At this point do I text her or run into her, if anything? I'm leaning towards a run-in, possibly Friday, text was sent Tuesday, but it would be obvious what I'm doing and don't want to come off as a creep. Tradeoffs, in person meet would remind her of our mutual attraction but if not done properly it would seem desperate. If I text her again and she doesn't respond its def game over.

Sorry for the extremely long post. Up until about a month ago I thought all PUA stuff was for people who were too timid to talk to women or who have nothing going on to make them interesting. Big mistake. I've been reading hours on end everything I can get my hands on and realize how little I understood women and how many potential opportunities squandered. Also as an aside shes latin, I'm white, and I only date latin women.


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 23, 2014 4:27 pm 
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Hey man I've been in similar situations it seems bad to you right now because you're thinking with your emotions and not your head. 1st if you set up a date and the girl flakes with a weak excuse imo its on her to arrange the next date. If its a legit reason 9/10 times they offer a reshedule from there don't reschedule right away give it a couple days I say 3 at most then reschedule. Not escalating to kiss could potentially turn her off, but you played that well with the cocky/funny text I don't see a problem there provided next time you go out you escalate at least to a kiss if you don't then I can see her getting turned off and looking else where.

With her not responding I would suggest you take a proactive approach I used this yesterday on a girl that just stopped replying and we're going out tonight. I don't know if you've heard of the I'm divorcing you routine, but if not here it is. Sidenote I've never had it not work for me.

Hi ----- this relationship is not working out for me... I want a divorce!! Have your lawyer send me the papers. I'll be keeping our house car and money. You can have our bratty kids and stupid cat :)

It presents a bit of a challenge which most women can't resist.
From there keep a strong frame and after a few texts say ouch!! My fingers hurt from all this texting I'm kinda busy right now, but I'm gonna give you a call in about 15min take that time to get an idea of what you're gonna say so you're not just freestyling and call her and set something up.

Anyway that's what I've done when in similar situations never had it not work. Good luck!!


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 23, 2014 11:11 pm 
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Thanks this is good advice. :mrgreen: I'm going to go with this text tonight and cross my fingers!


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 23, 2014 11:57 pm 
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no worries mate! 1 thing I forgot to mention is when a girl flakes with a weak ass excuse make sure to dhv to show her your time is in demand and not to be wasted. If you play that right you're almost garunteed they will set up the next date. Here's how I played a flake a couple months ago.

Her: hey I'm really tired from the gym I don't think I can stay awake until 8:00

Me: no worries buddy of mine has a fight tonight in vegas my friends are twisting my arm pretty hard to come check it out.

Her: WHAT!!!!! VEGAS!!!!! You better behave!!!

Me: always;)

From there she texted me a couple times just shit testing me for her own satisfaction, but I clearly had the upper hand and didn't feel like replying when there was no longer an end product. She set up the next date.


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