Dates - bad results, but they like me in a group/non date.



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 22, 2014 12:50 pm 
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Been on a number of dates in the last couple of years since I have been seriously looking to settle down.
Perhaps about 10 or so and with attractive girls. A lot of these girls I would have dated, some I certainly would at least have had sex with.
I have been incredibly unsuccessful and I am beating myself up about it a lot at the mo.
I just don't know where exactly I go wrong on these dates.

I do meet other girls sometimes who I game just for sex and some of these I have been successful with. But just too many of the ones I want to see again aren't digging me.

If you ask me honestly, do I feel there is some 'great' connection between me and these other girls, then the answer is no, but conversation and chat is ok and there should be enough there for these girls to want a second date and see what happens.

I am in my 30's, successful, have a car, my own place, am funny, can talk seriously aswell as fun. When I go on dates, I try to escalate quickly these days (has worked sometimes) other times not.

Yet despite all this, I tend to find that when girls see me almost on a 'non date' basis and in a group, they are interested. In my most natural environment, they like what they see.. when its a one on one talking basis, (on first meet) they don't.
In a group, I am quite cocky, funny, sexual etc. I feel like I am being this way on dates/one on one, but I just don't seem to get results.

I don't really know what part of my game is lacking and that is what frustrates me most. I just want to know if there is anyone else out there who has had a similar problem (good in group/bad in person scenario) and can relate to this.

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 22, 2014 3:08 pm 
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Hide your pitfalls until they see what they need to. Don't go on 1 on 1 dates until until you make great connections with each other. Go on group dates until she is willing to put more into the relationship. This is actually a marketing technique. "Feed your friends with a long handled spoon" (so you hand doesn't get bitten off!) Just put her in the "friend zone" and don't rush it.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 22, 2014 3:14 pm 
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Hide your pitfalls until they see what they need to. Don't go on 1 on 1 dates until until you make great connections with each other. Go on group dates until she is willing to put more into the relationship. This is actually a marketing technique. "Feed your friends with a long handled spoon" (so you hand doesn't get bitten off!) Just put her in the "friend zone" and don't rush it.
-sparrow out!
I see what you are saying but if you are meeting a girl who you met online or alone at a club, then it is hard to put her in a group situation. Might look a bit strange.

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 23, 2014 9:55 pm 
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just a guess, but i have been noticing that girls genuinely dislike "dates" these days. Anything structured, like out-to-dinner and stuff like that just makes them get all stiff and uptight.

I suggest you meet girls the way you normally do, and just invite them to hang out at your house or at their place, and do some really informal stuff like play video games or watch a movie or run some errands together.

Dont beat yourself up, maybe the problem is not you. and beating yourself up never helps anything.

Also, dont put too much pressure on yourself to "FIND A GIRLFRIEND NOW!" because this will cause you to give out weird vibes to girls. It can seem needy. Its way better to start dating 3 girls or more, dont commit too fast, let them all chase you, and then pick the best one a few months later when you really have gotten to know her well.

If you have trouble choosing one in the end, check this out-

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