that is true.....i forgot what he did i think he told the man to come in...i was just the assistant who got to sneak and listen (i was like 16 at the time) im 20 now...........but what you're saying is true.....how do you know so much about body language???

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Cheers guys, great stuff so far!


I bring up the whole mad scientist and killer in a light hearted way, but still with some truth.

Its not movies man this shit is RL , when I was 16 I had a friend who was the son of the leader of a major gang.

Now whether you believe this or not his 'old lady' or wife was most defently DTF. Now it wouldn't of mattered if a was a killer myself or a top BJJ artist, if I went there I'm %90 certain there would of been HELL to pay. Even my father who is pretty alpha himself told me if I went there he couldn't help me. (if you don't believe it , doesn't matter still could be a scenario). Now say I was a trained killer or thug like these guys actually are and I retaliated then hence the whole wars over woman thing.

So when I read about mystery's encounter with that guy in some random country and stealing his girl by tricking the guy into thinking he was a magic man. I'm am very surprised he got away with it. Either he can't of been that top dog more of a lone wolf or he is the luckiest bugger in the world.

So I guess just through experiences of my own and some of these replies then If you know she is a married woman or has a boyfriend, if your a TOP PUA why bother with the trouble, and go pick up something else?

For the sake of being morally obliged to fuck her, you could fuck yourself up big-time! Or if you are or believe your truly morally obliged to giving woman ultimate pleasure , is it a self sacrificing obligation ? something bigger than yourself?

And also by saying its not validating her bad behaviour of cheating as its not her fault for not being fucked properly or loved for that matter. This is confusing as fuuuuark! Do women not know the difference between right and wrong, have responsibility for their own actions or for that matter care about them as long as their needs (happiness is being met). And if you stop providing that then I will be low , cunning and nasty and cheat on you instead of saying 'hey you don't satisfy my sexual needs or love needs what can we do about it?

Not trying to bring anyone down still literally just tryna figure this out?

You don't get it. If you tell a woman that "You don't satisfy me sexually" then she's gonna go nuts. And she knows this, and because of this exact reason she will never ever tell her man this sentence, upfront. But come on. How dumb should a guy be to not notice? Even when I'd yet slept only with a few women(~3-4) I could already tell the difference between a real and a fake orgasm. And that's just the start of it. There are billions of other signs.

And yes, she can tell what's right and what's wrong. But at some point, she's gonna have enough. And when that comes, she has a very hard decision to do. Give up the security, and all the stuff depending on how serious the relationship was, and break up, or just risk it.

I had a female friend who tried to sleep with me, but I declined because I know her boyfriend and that's a no-no. I asked her why she wanted to cheat, and she broke down in tears, and told me how bad he was in bed. That nowadays she's just lying there like a branch and even like that he doesn't get it that he sucks. She told me that he means a lot to her, and recently she was creating lots of drama because of the bad sex. The guy already had lots of stress at work. She basically tried telling me how cheating will make her more balanced and be able to support her boyfriend more. At first I thought this was the biggest bullshit I have ever heard, but then it turned out she was absolutely serious. Women sometimes get so caught up in their emotional ways that they lose all sense about the consequences of their actions. So yeah....eventhough it's "wrong", I can't really blame a woman who cheats probably because she hasn't been satisfied for months, or years....

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that is true.........and a pretty bad thought.....that's a very unlucky guy

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Apparently not guys

http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/onc ... erspective

You could be Pan GOD, Casanova and Romeo put together and she still is going to cheat on ya

haha wow!

Bad link dude.

I can't read it due to some error. This one is a more reliable link: http://www.public.iastate.edu/~ccutrona ... action.pdf

It says: Sexually satisfied women tend to stay longer in high quality relationships.

If you want to learn to be good with women, change your hate vibe and turn that into a more positive vibe. Otherwise, just go to PUAH8 and hate all you want.

You have a choice:

1. You fix a weak area in your life (women cheating on you) and become good with women; or

2. You hate on guys who are good with women and hate women. Women can tell instinctively whether you hate them or love them which means that you'll never get to fix this weak area in your life if you go on hating women seeing them as wrong and freeing yourself up from any responsibility as a MAN.

As for morality and women being wrong, that's just like the Taliban saying that it's immoral for women to study so some Taliban dude rides on a school bus and shoots a girl right in the face. Hardcore Talibans say rock and roll is evil because rock stars like this Jewish dude Gene Simmons fucks thousands of women. So some Al Qaeda fans bomb innocent people in the hope of going to heaven to fuck 72 virgins.

On the other hand, people sign up and go to war in Afghanistan because it's their moral obligation to stop people from bombing women and children. Unfortunately, these guys accidentally bomb women and children too because these hardcore Taliban dudes hide behind their mothers, wives and daughters in the hopes that the GI Joes will not kick their ass if they're around women.

Morality is relative. Either you fix yourself and solve the problem or not at all. I have nothing against the Taliban or Al Qaeda, BUT if they keep on bombing our buses and trains, then there's no other way to stop them but to kick their ass.

The same goes true with a boyfriend or husband who treats women badly. If a dude keeps on mistreating his woman, I treat the girl to a series of good fucks so she'll know the difference and finally leave the loser who pops his load in less than 2 minutes.

Depending on the study, some 70% to 80% of men pop their loads in less than 2 minutes. On the other hand, to have an orgasm, a woman needs at least 20 minutes of foreplay and 20 minutes of proper banging to get JUST one single orgasm.

The question is... what's your purpose in signing up on this forum? Do you want to fix a problem or do you want to do nothing about it and just hate?

Change your views on morality and hate vibe and you'll do better with women. Guaranteed.

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Thanks for fixing that link man

Yes it says ‘tend’ to stay ‘longer’

So even so it’s a good probable chance even as a ‘MAN’ she will cheat

I think you got me wrong dude, I don’t hate woman at all. I find them the most intriguing creature on the planet. If you look at my first post (only have 2) I pua’d a stripper and then was trying to figure out why the fuck she was doing certain things after the F-close?

I do not hate, hate is a pretty heavy word. This is my way of understanding by putting out different views to whatever it is to see if it fits.

I think maybe then as a MAN/PUA if you are going to settle down with a woman and have kids, you have to detach yourself from love and see it more as biology, right? And so what you’re saying is as a MAN just accept it instead of crying about it. So instead of letting the woman go behind your back maybe go with her and DP that shieeeet.

As per the article, I think if one believes everything a man or woman with a white coat says as gospel it sort of becomes more religious thinking, don’t you think?

I guess there is no higher moral than the continuant of the species, fuck art!

Does that make everything else just smoke and mirrors for us?

I wanted to talk about Morals because even the article states that these are what constrain our biology. I mean it is Morals that stop us from just fucking being truly ALPHA and fucking which ever woman we please , when and where. It’s Morals that lead to a PUA figuring out how to navigate a society filled with rules or ‘morals’ allowing you to not do what you instinctively want to because it is 'wrong'.

It's the vibe in your posts dude.

It's full of subtle hatred for women and the guys women cheat with. If that vibe shows up in this forum, it shows up in real life as well.

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