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PostPosted: Mon Dec 02, 2013 6:38 pm 
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Sounds like you're already progressing a lot bro! Just re read your first FR and you'll already see a world of difference I'm sure. I know that when I look back on my old ones, I'm amazed by my progress. One thing I can suggest is to set goals for yourself for the next time you go out. A new opener, a story to DHV, getting number closes, etc. It sounds like your interaction are going well, based on what you're writing it sounds like you can definitely number close.


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PostPosted: Tue Dec 03, 2013 7:15 pm 
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Sounds like you're already progressing a lot bro! Just re read your first FR and you'll already see a world of difference I'm sure. I know that when I look back on my old ones, I'm amazed by my progress. One thing I can suggest is to set goals for yourself for the next time you go out. A new opener, a story to DHV, getting number closes, etc. It sounds like your interaction are going well, based on what you're writing it sounds like you can definitely number close.
I did read my first fr and you are right, there is a biiiig difference from where i was and where i am now, i am really happy with my progress! I also did as you said today: Set up goals.

Day 5

Goal:
1. Approach girls and then stay for a small conversation.
2. Number close if 1 goes well.

In field:
Today i went into town again with my wing man.
It was a very slow start today, didn't do any approaches for a long time, neither of ous.
Then slowly started to get into the right state, by approaching a couple of girls!
Then i approached one i got eye contact with,we had a conversation and it went good, i really felt she wanted to talk to me. But then i got stressed out and left :( My wingman thought i was really stupid for leaving, apparently she seemed to really enjoy talking to me!
Dont remember if there were any approaches in between, but again i got eye contact with a cute girl, i turned around and approached. Went well this time as well, but of course, i got stressed again :P Although i managed to stay long enough to get her number... NUMBER CLOSE :D:D:D
My wing man said: "I was certain u knew this girl, u looked so calm" and so on, was very nice to hear! He gave me some pointers from the earlier approaches, for example that my eyes wasn't calm. That helped a lot.

Results:
SUCCESS.
NUMBER CLOSE!!

Lessons:
It is super important to get into state right away!!
I have to do approaches before i arrive at my destination.


Sidenote 1:
Sent her a sms, she didnt answer, yet atleast! I dont mind, number close was enough for me :D
There will be more number closes tomorrow!

Sidenote 2:
Im going into town alone tomorrow! Found a really good place to work on.
When in conversation i will try to not leave, instead wait for them to leave! Atleast stay in the conversation longer!


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PostPosted: Wed Dec 04, 2013 7:28 am 
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Went well this time as well, but of course, i got stressed again :P Although i managed to stay long enough to get her number... NUMBER CLOSE :D:D:D
Sweet, GREAT NEWS!!
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My wing man said: "I was certain u knew this girl, u looked so calm"
A big part of this game is fooling yourself into thinking you already know the girl. But I don't need to tell you that, you've already got that down!
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It is super important to get into state right away!!
Very true.
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When in conversation i will try to not leave, instead wait for them to leave! Atleast stay in the conversation longer!
They don't want to leave until you take their # ;)


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Thx oceanx for posting so many encouraging words, i really appreciate it, this daygaming is really hard and really tests your brain and so on.

Went into town alone today, didnt bring alot of success im afraid... I had as a goal to start some assumption stacking, but i find it sooo hard to come up with assumptions, all the girls look the same in their winter clothes :D
I did four approaches today, and alteast got one assumption right, i told her "You look like one of those girl making you own clothes" and she started to talk about her mother having a shop and so on... Then im soo stupid and leaves, cause i didnt know what to say after she told me all the fashion stuff :P Should've just let her go on with that i guess, or maybe start a conversation about something else, like travels or something....

Next time i will work harder on this, and i think every approach is good, makes me alittle more comfortable with the whole situation.


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Sounds great, I'm in the same boat so good to see you doing so well! Looking forward to hearing more.


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PostPosted: Tue Dec 10, 2013 11:40 am 
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Today i will start my FR before i actually go out. The reason is i want the goals to be written in stone, so i cant chicken out and change them :D

Goal:
1. Approach 10 girls. FAIL
2. Expand on the compliment alteast with 1 thing. FAIL
3. Alteast 1 assutomtion(like: "U look like a model") or something.FAIL
4. DONT LEAVE!!! Stay until the girl leaves, this is difficult :PFAIL


In field:
:(:(
Only did one approach, a warmup approach but it took too long time before i did it, missed alooot of chances...
But one big problem is that it is so few girls out :( I guess its too cold.
Will go again tomorrow with the new wingman i met up today!


Results:
FAIL

Lessons:
I didnt learn this today, but i didnt do it today anyhow: APPROACH RIGHT AWAY!!!!


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PostPosted: Mon Jan 13, 2014 4:32 pm 
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Thought it was time to update here again! There was 2-3 weeks of no daygame since i was abroad and then there was christmas and new years, where i organized dinner for 10 people at my place, first time i did that, it went very well :D
Lately i've been daygaming as much as i've could. Dont know if i mentioned it, but two guys saw me approaching a girl and when i was done, they approached me! They were also daygamers :D
Been getting to know them and gaming with them alot.
I think i have done about 50 approaches now, i've found where to do it and what times and so on.
This friday i had a big "aha moment": Dont fear the void. The result of this is that i have been having longer conversations with all girls since then and always try to atleast numberclose.
I have got 4 numbers total so far, not very solid numbers so far.
It is really cold here and alot of girls stay inside if they can, its hard to find cute girls. I cant wait for summer!
In the meantime i will try to daygame 3-4 days every week. I also decided to not drink any alcohol for January, so alot of free time during weekends :)
Right now i have about 4 people to daygame with, really big difference to game with someone who push you and so on.

Positive Sitenotes:
1: Still haven't used tobacco.
2. Decided to no fap/porn 22dec, haven't done any of them.
3. Still going to the gym.
4. Trying to take cold shover's.

Could've alot better in school, but my mind have been filled with daygame :P
On 20' January i will start to work hard in school though, new courses...


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PostPosted: Mon Jan 13, 2014 9:33 pm 
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You are doing a great job my dude I am in college too and can't wait to start this semester. I am planning on doing a lot of approaching in college due to the countless girls there. Keep updating your progress...it really encourages others to try it as well.


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 15, 2014 4:32 pm 
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You are doing a great job my dude I am in college too and can't wait to start this semester. I am planning on doing a lot of approaching in college due to the countless girls there. Keep updating your progress...it really encourages others to try it as well.
Thanks!
You shouldnt wait, just start approaching right away. If u live in a little place, take the bus to a bigger town ;)

Today went really well! I approached one girl first, as always it is harder the first approaches for the day and i stumbled on the words and so on...
The second approach was awesome, a really hot swedish/russian/english, we talked for a few minutes i took her number and then we went on a "instant-date" walking around here and i helped her find a dvd she was looking for :D She's leaving in 2 days so i will try to hook something up asap, sent sms 1 hour ago, she hasnt responded yet though, but it went good today so i think she will!


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 16, 2014 4:49 pm 
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The Russian/Swedish/English girl from yesterday did respond :D Tried to set up a date for today, but apparently she wasnt in town anymore, she said she will be back in February though, hopefully she sends me text then!
I went into town today aswell, all approaches went very well! Got one facebook that i think is very interresting, the approach and interaction went very well and she was VERY cute! Some kind of semi celebrity it seems. I added her on facebook and sent a message there, hope she answers! Obv asked for her number, but she didnt have a swedish number yet.


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PostPosted: Mon Jan 20, 2014 9:04 pm 
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Went to town after school today and did some approaches, the first one was terrible, but the one after that was really good! Found a really cute girl and was talking with her for a long time, then tried to get a instant date, but she was meeting her friend! Took her number, and we are going on a day2 tomorrow, my first day2 from daygame woho :D


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PostPosted: Tue Jan 21, 2014 10:53 am 
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you need work. your unwillingness to learn patterns, and practice styles like TylerDurden or GWM is going to keep you back. you really need to start jogging, weightlifting, and buying nicer clothes to convey status. dont use your social network to find new lays at first. you probably have oneitis with at least a few girls and can't seem to get into the groove.


you have to practice all the principles negging, conveying status, kino, etc.


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PostPosted: Tue Jan 21, 2014 7:24 pm 
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you need work. your unwillingness to learn patterns, and practice styles like TylerDurden or GWM is going to keep you back. you really need to start jogging, weightlifting, and buying nicer clothes to convey status. dont use your social network to find new lays at first. you probably have oneitis with at least a few girls and can't seem to get into the groove.


you have to practice all the principles negging, conveying status, kino, etc.
I could really use some routines or something today on my date! It was a nice girl, the conversations ran smooth and i had a good time, the problem is just that, if i go to a cafe with a friend i have a good time aswell. I wanted to take her to my bedroom.
This time as with all my previous date, i dont know how to get them from nice chat to sextalk and eventually bedroom. I know there are alot of routines out there, but i havent liked what i have read at all, it feels manipulating and fake.
Yesterday i read about Compliance, defiance and investment and people talked about "I made her my slave" that doesnt feel right. Do i really need to do those kind of routines?
Isnt it the same as with approaching? In the beginning i couldnt approach at all, now after some practice i can approach most girls and get number from alot of them. If i go on alot of day2's dont you think i will be very confident in that situation aswell and that girl will be attracted just because of that?
Of course there is stuff to practice, like kino maybe, i just dont want to manipulate. Really need help with day2's.

Regarding "start jogging, weightlifting, and buying nicer clothes to convey status." Im already going all in on this, i bought gym card in november and started to go there 3 times a week, except some christmasbreak, now im going 3 times again. Everytime i jog 40 minutes(speed 11/20, 3 angle) on the treadmill and have a schema for lifting weights.
I also since november bought a new wardrobe, bought clothes for more than $3000, maybe more.


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PostPosted: Tue Jan 21, 2014 8:48 pm 
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Improving your image is good for any facet of your life, not just pickup. That's good that you've worked towards self- improvement. As far as your questions about routines and such, it depends on the person and which school of pickup thought that you want to follow. I read up on techniques and then I field test them and find out which ones work for me and my style of pickup as opposed to others that do not. You can't change your personality and nor should you. So you need to try out what works for you. I don't run routines personally, I think it's cheesy and artificial.


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 22, 2014 8:44 am 
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Improving your image is good for any facet of your life, not just pickup. That's good that you've worked towards self- improvement. As far as your questions about routines and such, it depends on the person and which school of pickup thought that you want to follow. I read up on techniques and then I field test them and find out which ones work for me and my style of pickup as opposed to others that do not. You can't change your personality and nor should you. So you need to try out what works for you. I don't run routines personally, I think it's cheesy and artificial.
I think the self improvement stuff i have done, stop with tobacco, no porn/fap(1month today) new clothes, gym and this month, no alcohol make a big difference. I am overall very happy and positive.
As i did with approaching, first i only gave compliment and then left, then i started to talk a little longer then left, and now i can stay and talk while being comfortable for a long time. I should be able to do the same with dates, start going on them and dont care about attraction and such very much in the beginning, just familiarize myself in the situation of going on a date with hot girls. Maybe i can practice some kino and stuff like that on the dates, but overall just be there and try to be aware.


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