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PostPosted: Sat Jan 18, 2014 6:59 pm 
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I'm a good looking guy (apparently a 8/10 or so), and women think I'm attractive. I work out, meditate, and hang out with friends on weekends. I however, for whatever reason, have bad limiting beliefs in regards to being able to get women. For a couple of years I was depressed, and came out of it all half a year ago. In those three years I only interacted with women when I had to; this idea of going out and meeting women simply was non-existent.

Now that I'm trying to put it all back together, I just feel like it's not who I am, or I'm just one of those guys who can't do it. I've simply been engaging in bad habits for far too long. I even sometimes get some anxiety when thinking about approaching women, which is a bad habit developed over the past three years.

What material/exercises should I look into? Any good Hypnosis tapes/material that would assist me in changing negative mindsets?


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PostPosted: Sat Jan 18, 2014 8:28 pm 
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Hey man I feel where your coming from. I think that you should try

out Mystery Method. This is the only method I use and it works charms man!

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 18, 2014 10:48 pm 
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Hey man I feel where your coming from. I think that you should try

out Mystery Method. This is the only method I use and it works charms man!
I've used Mystery Method with someone before, but it doesn't really address limiting beliefs all that much. I'd like to take care of the conflicting subconscious stuff in my brain right now.


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What kind of limiting beliefs do you have? Mind expanding more?

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What kind of limiting beliefs do you have? Mind expanding more?
Thinking things like, "Oh I can't approach women because it's not the person I am, and how others see me". I've spent too much time developing bad habits and thoughts like this basically. Worrying what others think is also a bad one. I know it doesn't matter what others truly think, and they probably don't even pay attention, but it's easier said than done I feel.


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Don`t make the mistake of confusing inner game with approach anxiety.

The first one goes much deeper than the last one, when you only need a quick fix for AA as a solution, problems with inner game can go a long way adressing them.

My take on your situation? Go watch some youtube vids of rsd, I recommend the Jeffy show and Tyler`s vids. You`ll be just fine.

Just remember: approach anxiety is such a simple step to improve, you might find yourself not having confidence on routines or what`s next to say after you`ve approached this girl.

This is why everyone recommends you to go out a lot and get experience: that`s were you get confidence from; going out and taking the steps.

Watch a couple of vids, and go out and really put yourself out there.


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What kind of limiting beliefs do you have? Mind expanding more?
Thinking things like, "Oh I can't approach women because it's not the person I am, and how others see me". I've spent too much time developing bad habits and thoughts like this basically. Worrying what others think is also a bad one. I know it doesn't matter what others truly think, and they probably don't even pay attention, but it's easier said than done I feel.


I mean I know what you mean man. But if you don't believe in yourself...

then how do you expect for other people to believe in you?



The best way to get self belief up is to read self help books and listen

to positive audio material man.

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Don`t make the mistake of confusing inner game with approach anxiety.

The first one goes much deeper than the last one, when you only need a quick fix for AA as a solution, problems with inner game can go a long way adressing them.

My take on your situation? Go watch some youtube vids of rsd, I recommend the Jeffy show and Tyler`s vids. You`ll be just fine.

Just remember: approach anxiety is such a simple step to improve, you might find yourself not having confidence on routines or what`s next to say after you`ve approached this girl.

This is why everyone recommends you to go out a lot and get experience: that`s were you get confidence from; going out and taking the steps.

Watch a couple of vids, and go out and really put yourself out there.



I couldn't agree with you more here.

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Don`t make the mistake of confusing inner game with approach anxiety.

The first one goes much deeper than the last one, when you only need a quick fix for AA as a solution, problems with inner game can go a long way adressing them.

My take on your situation? Go watch some youtube vids of rsd, I recommend the Jeffy show and Tyler`s vids. You`ll be just fine.

Just remember: approach anxiety is such a simple step to improve, you might find yourself not having confidence on routines or what`s next to say after you`ve approached this girl.

This is why everyone recommends you to go out a lot and get experience: that`s were you get confidence from; going out and taking the steps.

Watch a couple of vids, and go out and really put yourself out there.
If I worked on my inner game, wouldn't that also solve AA? I've always been the kinda guy to get things done mechanically (bottom up). But you are right, because I am able to talk to girls I already know fairly easily. But sometimes I just feel like im not interesting enough, I find the conversations run out a little, etc.
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What kind of limiting beliefs do you have? Mind expanding more?
Thinking things like, "Oh I can't approach women because it's not the person I am, and how others see me". I've spent too much time developing bad habits and thoughts like this basically. Worrying what others think is also a bad one. I know it doesn't matter what others truly think, and they probably don't even pay attention, but it's easier said than done I feel.


I mean I know what you mean man. But if you don't believe in yourself...

then how do you expect for other people to believe in you?



The best way to get self belief up is to read self help books and listen

to positive audio material man.
Which self help books/audio material do you recommend? I've been looking into self hypnosis recently, would you recommend Hypnotica's material? Also curious in trying Limitless Alpha.


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Like you, I'm good looking too. I'd say I'm a 9 cause I'm also well groomed. I was a "natural" back in middle school and high school (Infact some of the things I do last time are what PUAs do today, like ignoring the target and get approved by her friends, negging, false take away. I did that all naturally without knowing). Girls chased me like crazy haha. But there are other days when as soon as I opened my mouth, they run off.

Are you approaching any women at all though? It looks like AA. I also have this most of the time, well kinda. It IS a limiting belief, where your inner game is poor. But if you're not approaching women then it seems like AA.

You see I get this state a lot too but I can approach women, just that I can't do any attraction and shit.

I suggest you watch RSD Tyler Durden's inner game stuff. He's really good. Like really really really good. I have to admit, when I'm in my positive state I'm actually like him haha.

Here's one, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ANKKhMAROX8

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Like you, I'm good looking too. I'd say I'm a 9 cause I'm also well groomed. I was a "natural" back in middle school and high school (Infact some of the things I do last time are what PUAs do today, like ignoring the target and get approved by her friends, negging, false take away. I did that all naturally without knowing). Girls chased me like crazy haha. But there are other days when as soon as I opened my mouth, they run off.

Are you approaching any women at all though? It looks like AA. I also have this most of the time, well kinda. It IS a limiting belief, where your inner game is poor. But if you're not approaching women then it seems like AA.

You see I get this state a lot too but I can approach women, just that I can't do any attraction and shit.

I suggest you watch RSD Tyler Durden's inner game stuff. He's really good. Like really really really good. I have to admit, when I'm in my positive state I'm actually like him haha.

Here's one, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ANKKhMAROX8
Haha good to know I'm not the only one. Thats the thing, I don't really approach. I guess it's a deeper level of AA, because it's not even the actual thought of talking/approaching the women itself that bothers me, but more so the fact that I'm just not the guy I'm "pretending" to be. I will definitely look into RSD Tyler's stuff. Thanks!


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Well...aside from anything having to do with the game.

Try reading "How to win friends and influence people" the book

or you can go get audio CDs for it.



Another good one is "The Secret" basically talks about the mind. There is so much more

good material then things relating to the game man. Try it!

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Well...aside from anything having to do with the game.

Try reading "How to win friends and influence people" the book

or you can go get audio CDs for it.



Another good one is "The Secret" basically talks about the mind. There is so much more

good material then things relating to the game man. Try it!
I've looked at tons of material that has to do with game.
David DeAngelo series
RSD
Also did read how to win friends and infleunce people
magic bullet, mystery method etc.

I just have trouble adopting the mindset that I can do all this stuff written in the books.


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Hmm then I guess you should look into "Inner Game Installed" by PUA Training's very own Gambler and Ben. Besides the 6 module lectures, it also includes a self hypnosis program that helps you assume a better role. You can listen to the audio files just about anywhere, on the bus or train to work or anywhere really.

What it does is it helps you become more aware of your current state, and be aware of the feeling you're having when you're in a better more alpha state. I might add in though to go along with this, you might need to achieve an ego boost. Or assume a higher ego role. This will change the way you see people.

So instead of feeling like you don't need to or don't want to approach (or that you need to be evaluated by that HB), you'll feel like they need to be evaluated by you.

Always think to yourself, "Who am I?" And "Who are they?". Then you need to be aware of how you feel. Should you feel like that? Or should you feel like your better days? This way you can see the world as a playable character in a video game, and everyone else are just the computer program. It's YOUR world. YOU take control, everyone else are unimportant.

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Well...aside from anything having to do with the game.

Try reading "How to win friends and influence people" the book

or you can go get audio CDs for it.



Another good one is "The Secret" basically talks about the mind. There is so much more

good material then things relating to the game man. Try it!
I've looked at tons of material that has to do with game.
David DeAngelo series
RSD
Also did read how to win friends and infleunce people
magic bullet, mystery method etc.

I just have trouble adopting the mindset that I can do all this stuff written in the books.


Like what do you mean though? Can you help narrow it down so I can better

help you out?

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