Hey what's up? I have a question about approach/conversation.

Do i have to add some game routines for people who just don't talk? I may be wrong with this..don't think i am...BUT a few of the girls at the party tonight gave me lots of eye contact ..would hold and sometimes smile. Body language was in my favor which i was pretty sure ment an invite to "try out" or whatever.

Example.
Really good looking girl at a mainly sausage party...maybe 3 guuys to everyone 1 girl. I saw her shoot down a few guys...so i retire my beer pong winning street and walk over to my friends now playing(which is also next to her). It was her and her "girlfriend" ....i came close and another girl introduced me to both of them.

Me: Kim right?
Hb7: noo not Tim ..KIM
Me: i said tim...but considering your long hair...i assumed you were a girl so Kim sounds more realistic then Tim
Me: i mean..you aren't a guy right?
Me: wait wait...that's a little bulge i see
HB: (laughing) yeah ...blah..references to her big penis'..pretty clear images she has in her head...and the laughing/joking = IOIs

Then i blanked. ...later re opened her and she was just as receptive ...but i saw another guy was gaming her and honestly...the girl wasn't hot enough to fight over ..but that created DHV for her HOT h9 IMO..maybe not model but college girl. anyway

I go back around the room and continue talking to some friends...joking around blah. Then i make my way over here...and i've HEARD this is a mistake..but i just stood there with my arms crossed as if i was watching the beer pong game.

Me: You look bored.
Me: how can you be bored at a party?
hb9: the keg is done and there's no more beer
Me: (i really think this would have been a good hook into qualification..probably going to use again..unfortunatly i said it too low and she didn't hear me/stuttered)
Me: haha..so your defiantly one of those ppl that need alcohol to feel comfortable to socialize? ..ment for it to be a neg/slight interest as to WHY she needs alcohol...qualification may be to actually have a conversation to prove she doesn't need alcohol...any good you think?Anyway

Hb: blah i forgot
Me: (turned back to table...body language was arm crossed leaning back...comfortable in my space..not sure if it was bad b/c it was a closed position..but isn't that supposed to add to "why doesnt he fully open me?"
Me: haha. i did have some of the beer to drink so i just spaced....repeat what you said
Hb: blah...
me: Do you go to this university..
hb: no
Me: then why are you here...who's ur friend?
Hb : oo..kim told me about it
Me: yeah kim seems cool(dhv via i've already talked to her friend?)
HB : yeah ..she's my girlfriend
Me: lesbians...i love that
Hb: yeah...we're lesbians(she didn't give the vibe of joking but rather "just w/e"
me: that's sweet...i'm gay...we rock
Hb: yeah you should go to a gay club
Me: ...wtf..isn't everyone here gay?

Turned back to my spot...towards game..leaning back. I then started to talk to another girl and she left to where kim was

I mean...Honestly i'm so lost with fluff. Am i going to go from "yeah isn't this a gay club" to a good discussion such as views on homosexuality? I wouldn't mind...but most girls i think would be too deep too soon?

I know it's long...but i really tried to be conscious of my actions and not be my typical safe....= practice the ways of PUA...so i can recall most of my night pretty easy haha. ANyway...what can i do better?

Hey Zip!

I have a friend PARTYGAL5 which parties; drinks and does weed, and fucks. The fucking is my type but the smoking weed and drinking (I use to drink but can't because of health reasons). Anyways, I really should stop gaming her because she's only 17 and I don't know when she's turning 18 but still she's really not my type.

I'm very picky with women and have poor tastes. As you can tell!

There's not alot of good women out there that isn't pregnant, doing drugs, drinking, partying, bitches.

I'm the kind that's intelligent but always get snubbed by HB's. Why? At first I thought it was because my looks but when I read it dawned to me that women base their attraction on a man whose confident, strong, charasma, fun and sociable, also challagening. This is why I wanted to know about the GAME because I wanted an edge of attracting women.

You know what's messed up is that when I was younger, I had game. I was making out with college girls not even my age, having oral sex with my cousin's wife, having flings with clients here at Trinity. Now I got brainwashed by ther-a-rapists I totally lost my game. I've turned into thier Model Son of being a goody-to-shoe!

Here's another weird thing: At trinitiy I have great game, however when I go out in public I don't. Why? Probably because I'm comfortable and safe. While in public I think every women's a threat; as if they're gonna hurt me. Stupid huh? Yeah I know! But all well!

I know about the crashed FRAME. I've just identified it last night at work that I was afraid of being alone for my rest. I would die alone.

Like LA Tripp said be comfortable with myself; how can I when all I do is scare people away? I feel like this evil person that's lurking deep within with sinister thoughts of maiming. However there's a part of me that love women so much that I'm protective and will do anything to protect them. I hate the thought of women getting hurt physically or raped. I've seen that in my past to much and it makes me wanna destroy men who hurt women like that.

I know I have trust and alot of anger issues. 'm sick of my counselor because of his bullshit! Since sometimes I don't go to program, he threatens me and tells me I'm gonna lose apartment. That's another thing I hate is being controlled. I'm outraged and furious when I'm controlled. It's like a animal trapped in a corner; he either has a response to fight/flight.

I need some help here and I know you and the other PUA's can help me.

"JUST ANOTHER AFC"

Thanks Zip for the advice.

I have another if you can help me out on this.

So my target mentioned that she is a good cook, so I have invited her over to my place to cook something for us to eat. Also she is living in the dorm and is missing cooking. I also mentioned that she can bring her friends over as well, I do this so the thought of being over at my place alone does not scare her away.

Ok, let say she brought a friend, what is a good thing to do after dinner? I don't want them to be bored and leave to a party, or simply go back to their dorm room and watch TV. My apartment is quite simple, no TV, and things are neat.

The only thing I can think of is drinking and talking after dinner about random stuff, or play truth and dare (is this still allowed at this age?). I really need some good advice on entertaining them, and seducing the target at the same time while having her friend accept the fact that I like this girl, and is not blocking.

What would you like expect from a guy if he invited you over for dinner with your friends, and hang out after?

I think I'm being fucked around with here! FALLON5 keeps on telling she's busy when I call her. BLOWING ME OFF! Giving me IOD's! Now, tonight I saw her at work. I was bring to the Customer Service desk a package of soap when I saw her. I was trying to ignore her but she looked in my eyes and gave a big smile. I'm a idiot for when people give me attention I go for it! Slap me please!

ME: Thanks for not calling me back! [Laughed]
HER: I didn't call you back?
ME: Uh, no! "I'll call you back!" (I mimic her).
HER: [Laughs] I'm sorry!
ME: Shut up-no your not!
HER: I am! [Laughs]
ME: Yeah, whatever!
HER: [Laughs]

She knew what she was doing and she knew it bothered me. I'm not that dumb com'on! But dumb enough to be puddy in women's hands.

Tonight I saw her smoking when I was pushing carts into the enterence. I was trying to ignore her but she stared at me and gave a big smile again.

ME: What are you looking at? [Smile]
HER: I'm just looking.
ME: I'm just fucking around with ya.
HER: I know!
ME: You think you know!
HER: I know, you just told me! [Smiles and a giggle]
ME: I know I'm just messing.
HER: [Laughs} I know!
ME: So why did you keep on letting me go?
HER: I went to a liquor store and bought some alcohol.
ME: Ohhhh...that's nice. [Left to do work]

ZIp-slap me the hardest you can for being a idiot! PLEASE! LOL! I need a good smack to wake up and smell the coffee! I'm not into abuse but when I deserve it I do! If I pissed a woman off and she slapped me I'll back down instead of engage. I don't believe in hitting women it's one of my moral codes that is prohibited. I've stood eye to eye but never intended to harm her. I have racing thoughts but I shut down then disengage (back down by walking away).

I just have high morals that's all!

Later! Peace out!

Yeah, you're coming across as a needy dude. She's got the upper hand here, and you're the one letting her do it. You don't ever want to see like you're waiting around for her call. I mean, you're bantering with her, which is good, but the upper hand is completely hers.

Gain it back.

Sip you missed one... i'll forgive you this time hehe loll.. oo almost forgot my question is on page 30 on top plus dont foret the shit test which you gotta start looking forward to it!

I've been playing with the "called shot technique." Right now, I'm feeling that it belongs right at the end of A3. Then, either eject for a minute, come back, and go into C1 or isolate and go into C1, completely breaking apart from your "Called Shot."

Which brings my too my next question, when a girl seems to have the power, how do you gain it back in your favor?

I mean, I have at least 8 female numbers in my phone but none call me but one i believe. I mean i know as of right now, its something about me that women dont like to be around. Which im trying to figure out now!!

first its the question and then my statement, lemme know what you think zip.

Sip you missed one... i'll forgive you this time hehe loll.. oo almost forgot my question is on page 30 on top plus dont foret the shit test which you gotta start looking forward to it!

Sip. I like that.

I'll go back and find your question. Damn, I thought I got them all! thanks for the reminder.

Also, why don't you wait until after this Sunday, at 9 pm EST, where I have my bitch shield/shit test PMZ members only workshop in the chat... I'm covering a lot of techniques and tactics there... so it will be a great start.

Okay, your question on the top of page 30 about a girl being playful was answered... it's like the third topic down on page 31. Damn you for making me go on a scavenger hunt.

Unless there is some other mystery hidden question I'm not aware of on the top of 30... Don't make me have to Christopher Columbus across the past fivemillion posts again Just repost the question here if I am ultimately wrong and have not answered it.

But I totally think I did.

Okay,

This girl is screening herself out. This is why we do what we do... we're going for high quality women. This girl is not behaving like a high quality woman, and you're not going to be able to change her. This is like reversed-bad-boy-syndrome. You want to be the one to change her. Watch yourself.

If a girl is not playful, you can't make her playful. She's feeding off of your positive attention, and she's not earning it.

Dude, one thing you can do is call her out on it. Point blank. Call her out on not caring when it's your turn to give an opinion, the fact she vibes only off compliments, etc.

Then, give her a compliment. Then try bringing playful banter back into the mix. If she doesn't respond here after you've just thrown her a flip (which is designed to cut through her bullshit and make her vulnerable in a good, open way) then LET HER GO. You can cook a bad egg, but it won't make it any better.