so last night i attended the new year eves party..i went out with four guys..i was only friends with one..when we went to the party i was the only one making approaches...the other guys were pussies and they were acting pimp and shit before the party...i was shot down multiple times..even a HB 4 turned me down...there is loud techno music playing too....this has to be the worst infield night...0 numbers,0 number closes zero kiss closes...my confidence has taken a shot....how will you speak.to someone in a place where someone cant hear you?..night game for me is a challenge..majority of the girls act bitchy...i do way better in day game...how do i better my night game and what should i do about confidence that has taken a shot?

Verbal game in loud places is all about body language, a strong frame, body language, knowing when to use short bursts of words at the right times, subcommunication, body language, using the environment to your advantage, body language, using the loudness to your advantage, and body language.

Also, body language.

Above all else, play to your strengths.

First of all, let me calm down a bit by telling you this: New Year's Eve is like any other day, it's just the start of a new year. No big deal, it's a normal day, you don't have to be down for not getting any girls on that day. Move on and start fresh.

Loud places are my home, I literally love gaming at clubs/bars with loud music. You don't have to speak a lot and that's something that is really obvious. Moreover, don't ever try to switch places from a loud place to a calm place, because that never works (sudden change of vibe). In other words, stay in the same place.

The trick here is that you have to approach face-to-face. You cannot apologize for interrupting or starting a conversation, neither can you drink too much. These are my basics. All you have to do is grab a drink and be amazing. Enjoy your time and forget about your "sole mission of going to pickup chicks". The more you think about it, the less girls you'll have around you. Enjoy yourself and everything will come to you easily.

If you, by any chance, pick a target that you like, make a move without hesitating, and escalate like a motherfucker before it's too late. Try to grind from the first 5 minutes of dancing, it's a great way of getting kiss closes during the first 15 minutes or so. If you escalate properly, you'll have no trouble kiss closing. (see my kiss close routine in PUA lounge, it's working wonders for me, plus it's a short thread).

Point is you don't have to be affected by anything around you. People take New Years as a special day that means a lot to them and they might not like it spending the night with a stranger they just met, so chill, it's normal and it happens to all of us at some point. It wasn't your problem, it was a special occasion that everyone wants to spend with their families/friends/partners.

Good luck

How exactly do you a game non verbally? i tried my best..approached from the front 45 degrees angle,did not lean in and tried to dance..every time i tried to dance with a chick she would back off...and the venue had way more guys...most of the girls had their bitch shields up...but how exactly do you game in such an enviroment...i need like process A-Z etc.

Everyone has bad nights. Don't dwell on it, and it won't impact your game. If you dwell on it, it could impact your game. It's important you keep things in perspective.
If someone rejects you, it's their loss. They judged you too quickly. Also accept that some girls go out with the intent of feeding their egos by rejecting guys. Don't worry about it, there are a lot of factors you can't control.

Gambler PUA on Youtube has some excellent videos about non verbal game.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_jStE6-uQgQ

my question is still unanswered...what is the process(from A-Z) of gaming in a loud enviroment playing techno or house music where men significantly outnumber the women in the venue and where the majority of the women are bitchy...

The first thing you need to do is stop assuming the women are all bitchy. They're not bitchy you were just using the wrong approach. If you go in with the mindset that the "bitches" are going to shoot you down then they will pick up on your frame intuitively and do just that.

It's a self fulfilling prophecy.

The second thing is forget about how many men there are present, that is neither here nor there.

Yeah, body language in clubs is the way to go. Forcing IOIs is a huge plus i've found. You set yourself aside from everyone else because you've let it be known you've noticed her. She's noticed you noticing her and will occasionally start glancing back at you. Keep up the forced IOIs. I usually let them come to me and it works 70% of the time. If they don't approach you they will get in proximity and give you longing looks and even bat guys away or talk to them but eye you up as they're talking to other guys.

Compared to forcing IOIs approaching sucks i've found. Maybe it's my approaches but generally when I see a girl give me IOIs after I force them and then approach I get a lot of shit tests. I believe the reason for this is because i've forced IOIs, so have they and we've played a game with it to see who is more interested in who. If they win that game they feel on a perch and want to go the full nine yards in having you prove yourself. It puts you at a disadvantage. So i've found forcing an IOI and playing that game for a few minutes then approaching actually gets in the way and makes it harder. If you force it and "win" she's yours so if you play that game you better be in it to win it and hope she's confident enough to approach you... Or you could just tell her to come over. I've not done that yet but i'll be trying it out.

Well... first, rough nights happen man. Don't let it get you down. There are going to be plenty more times where you go out and "get nothing" out of it.

Second, in loud venues... Body language and physical game are the most important. Talking doesn't matter so much.

Had a night out.

Body language and forcing IOIs is just where it's at. Had SHBs responding left, right and center. It's just that good. Had four approaches tonight from forcing IOIs, had a hot tanned chick on the dance floor respond well until I seen her take a cheeky line of white... Walked away from that mess.

Be confident, force a few IOIs and don't back down. You will know if a woman is interest or not.

I had also pretty bad New Years Eve party. Somehow I could not find myself in more hectic and crowded environment. The more I felt awkward the worst it was.. heh. I don't feel however that that is something other then single event on the journey. People have tendency to generalize too quickly. Don't fall into that trap. Don't think about this event as something that can damage confidence.

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All best!
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