So after everything i went through and after having a lot of conversations with girls the past few month i decided that i have to change something. I always, and i mean ALWAYS end up in the friendzone. Girls who seemed to be interested are looking for my shoulder to cry on now , because they are having trouble with their bad guys cheating on them, others told me straight up that they want a guy who knows what to do and not a nice guy who is asking for permission. And most girls even "admitted" that they do want this "bad guy".

The point is: I always was the nice guy. I did everything for the girl, i always texted them cute messages, i always made time for them, when they wanted to hang out i jumped, i told the girl that she is the only one and that i want her, i always do and say nice stuff, i always show her what i feel for her.
So where did all this stuff take me? You probably guessed it...right into the friendzone every time.

So from now on i want to change. Fuck it! I dont want to be that nice guy anymore all the girls come to when they have problems. So how do i change? Its not easy for me because naturally im not like that AT ALL! I am a nice person. I like to show love and i like to make others happy but this doesnt take me anywhere.

My biggest problem is that i might come of as arrogant when i put on this bad boy image. I tried it in the past and i felt like i was being a bit to bad and to ignorant, which most people hated. So being to bad doesnt take you anywhere either. What is the right balance? Because i feel like there is just a very very fine line, between being confident and non caring and arrogant.

It's good to be a good guy sometimes, life pays back. However, be ignorant, funny and cocky with girls. Sure, give them compliments but one (for example, tell her that her smile is cute or smt, but that's it). As well as that, if you don't want to reach the friendzone, whenever a girl has a problem and asks you for help, tell her "don't you have friends to ask such questions?".

That's the advice from my own experience.

Hope it helps.

Some girls i talked to said: "Look. Being a nice guy is a good thing. It really is. But when you´re nice all the time it is just boring as fuck for us girls. You need to make yourself interesting and challenging. You love this girl?! She knows you do! And guess what. Its boring! Show her the cold shoulder! Stop being nice. Be interesting and see what happens. You´ll be surprised."

Girls don't know what they want, and "bad guys" is NOT one of these things. It is just a common misconception. They want to see masculinity, but that is not the same thing as being bad. Grow beard, talk with a deeper voice, go to the gym... For a start.

The most important thing girls want is a man who knows what he want! He knows what kind of women he likes, what he wants from life, where he is heading in life, what kind of behavior he accepts etc. And he is able to say NO!

For instance, if a girl starts talk about all her problems, you can either be a good listener (friend), or tell her that she can go somewhere else with her problems - for the moment you just want to have fun and she is spoiling the moment. Have you ever told a girl to stop whining? Have you ever said no to be the bucket into which she currently pukes? That is what you do when you know where to draw the line, when you know what behavior you accept, and when you know how to say no to all of it.

Don't become a "bad guy" - become a confident guy who knows what he wants and who has standards/limits.

Another example to add to what was said above - you're out with a girl and she asks you to go and fetch something. Say 'nah, you can get it.' Just treat them in this manner like they're one of your buddies.

So what she has a vagina, she is a human being just like you why put her on some pedestal (that she doesn't want to be on in the first place).

Also as you work on building your confidence & masculinity, meet new girls who will not see you as the 'nice guy'. It's next to impossible to recalibrate a pre-existing frame that is set for people who currently view you in that way.

Being intentful, going for what you want unapologetically, without succumbing to her, is incredibly attractive. THIS is what girls like. They like you to go for what you want (her) which indirectly shows you like her, and not caring about what she thinks of it. If you do it out of genuine love for her then it will be quite easy. Just don't be her little bitch because that's not the way to go.

Therefore you don't have to be a bad guy, you just have to stop caring about what they think and go for what you want unapologetically. What does this mean? This means if you want to stare her down then you do so, you stare her down. If you want to get her number to go on a date, then you do anything to get her number and set up a date, no matter what she says. You try and retry and retry without giving a fuck for what she thinks about it.

If you want to kiss her then you go for that, without caring for what she thinks (obviously don't force this, make sure you calibrate properly), but you just keep going for what you want. This is actually extremely fun, if you just keep going for what you want and her turning away multiple times, it's a little game. You can be very cheeky and it can actually make you laugh even if she doesn't find it funny. It's hilarious most of the time.

Anyway this is what they mean with being "interesting", by going for what you want, not caring what she thinks of it. If you truly want her then this will be sorted in no time.

Ignorant != bad. Being bad ass is being bad. Toughen up. That's a start.

Okay i see...
Well like i said my problem is that im naturally to nice. Dont get me wrong im not a nice and weak person to everybody! Only with girls i like basically.
For example the girl who is crying on my shoulder at the moment... I mean i really like her! She is really nice. I dont have any intentions or feelings for her at all! The only thing i know is that i dont want to be her shoulder to cry on for very long and its difficult for me to tell her that.

With other girls its like this: I show my clear intent they DO KNOW what i want. But once they feel it it its like they start playing a little game which goes like this:

"I know you want me and im giving you just enough to string you along but im not going to do anything sexual with you anyways! Im just gonna tease you a bit"

So for me its obvious that theres something im not doing right...
I guess its this whole "go for what ever the fuck you want" thing that i just cant do. Im the kind of guy who is very cautious and only makes a move when he feels like nothing bad can happen. If i could i would even like to ask the girl if its ok to do this and that (Dont worry i obviously DONT do that!!) because im like "well she already rejected me once why would she accept it now?" or "No you cant do that, shes going to freak out!"

This is something you are going to have to learn then. And you can learn it, it comes with experience, after ging through many rejections you just begin to think you know what, fuck this, I'm getting what I want. You begin to be more AGGRESSIVE. Aggressiveness is mentioned many times but people don't understand how aggressive you need to be. In Pickup things are different than in a social circle. The dynamics of the relationship are different, because you are actively picking her up, whereas in a social circle things "just happen". In pickup you make 100% of the moves, whilst in a social circle you may make 50% or 70% and she makes the rest. Sometimes in Pickup she also makes the moves, and she'l have to at time if she wants you, but a lot of the time it's ALL YOU. This means you need to go all the way short of rape. OMG did he just say you must go all the way just before you get to rape? Yeah I did, why? Because that's how aggressive you need to be at times. These girls like you, shit just gets in the way. Therefore you are making all the moves here, trying every angle that's not the forceful dragging her into an alleyway and putting some lube down there so you can fuck her. Persistence is attractive. HEAVY persistence is attractive. In PICKUP. In a social circle it's different, but in Pickup it's attractive because you are setting the frame of going for what you want no matter what. If she says No, you try another way, she says no again, you try another way, she says no again, you try another way, she says, well OK. There we go, that's how your pickup will go a lot of the time.

This pretty much opened my eyes... But im pretty sure it won't be easy to learn being THAT aggressive when you´re such a nice guy as i am right now. Im always hoping for that magic moment when i will finally start to act like a man. But every time im in the actually situation i just can't do it. I find excuses not to make a move. Most of the time its "If i don't do something you won't get rejected and you won't have any trouble with the girl"...

You also won't get to have sex with her.

By definition a woman cannot respect a man who does not have the fortitude to unapologetically go for what he wants. And no respect = no sex.

For you, the pain of being "rejected" is larger than the pain of not getting laid, therefore you haven't pushed the envelope.

Remember also that there are no rejections, only learnings. Rejections are great tools because they show you how to tweak things going forward. For every 1 rejection you probably learn at least 1 thing (even if it's only subconscious) that you can take forward in your interactions with other women.
You want to look at and analyze the results this approach has given you and consider that maybe it's time to try a new approach based on you laying your intentions on the line with the new girls you meet.

Don't go one notch below rape lmao. I'm not saying it wouldn't work, I'm saying there is more than one way to skin a cat and rape-1 is not the best of options. You'll learn when you can be aggressive and when you can't. Social judgement and calibrations is good. Female friends are good. Being a shoulder to cry on is great. I've had women cry on my shoulder then kiss me later. I didn't bang them so maybe that's bad example. But you don't need to lay them all, you can be friends.

I've mentioned this site on here too many times to count, but check out www.badboylifestyle.com. It even gives you a step by step guide on being a bad boy. The thing is you gotta find middle ground between being a doormat and being an asshole. Once you find that middle ground what I call the gentleman with an edge that's being a bad boy. I was the exact same way always there and what not then I read up on bbl.com and realized my problem wasn't just with women I didn know my own worth. So one day guy was like yo Jon give me a ride home I was like fuck you do I have taxi written across my forehead you cheap fuck?? Literally you could have heard a pin drop and ppl took notice it just went from there I became aware of my own worth(something I'm still working on though) stopped wondering if ppl liked me and started wondering do I like them? I was nice to everyone, but I didn't try to be friends with everyone, but if you're so used to being a nice guy its a hard transformation. Because as a nice guy texting 1st being there for ppl putting others 1st is what you're used to. One of the best sayings I've heard is I chase them they run away I chase myself they chase me. Its true do what you want to make yourself happy ppl will take notice and want to be apart of it.
Anyway that's how I see it, but I'm still learning as well. Hope that helps good luck!

go out meet some women. get better at meeting women.

The only thing that confuses me is your post honestly. Because your definition of "bad guy" seems to be being a serial killer or some. My definition of being a "bad guy" is basically:

-Not giving a shit about what other people think or say
-Stop letting people especially women walk all over you
-Stop being a pussy and just go for whatever the fuck you want
-Do what ever you want to do and dont look back
-Dont get emotionally attached to a girl to soon

Just to name a very few things that come to my mind...
You wont get good with girls if you dont consider those things. If you go out every day of the week but keep being a nice guy aka. a pleaser you wont get anywhere with women either...The problem is not, going out or meeting girls. You can meet dozens of girls every day but that wont help you shit if you dont know how to communicate with them and how to behave. If somebody IS a nice guy or more critical a PLEASER you have to realize that you need to change! And thats basically what i say. How to become a "bad guy"...