Yea man.. You're trying to over rationalize the reasons you're putting out more effort than you need to. It's like you're trying to force her to be excited for you. Regardless if your common interest she has to be CURIOUS, she has to WANT to know that you got a rematch. You can't just be telling her everything because you want a reaction out of her. What is she going to do.. Be attracted to every guy that likes Boxing and Chicken Noodle soup?

8 out of every 10 girls that fall in love with me aren't interested in any of my interest in the slightest. Now some will pretend they are, because they think it'll make me love them, and its always obvious when they do.

The truth is gun, you can't have anything that you are afraid to lose. It will always get away from you. Every girl I talk to manages to stick around simply because, it wouldn't affect me emotionally if they weren't around any more. I've only lost the girls in my life that I was afraid to lose.

It took about 5-6 broken hearts for things to finally click; but eventually I came to my senses, I received an understanding of self, and now I comfortable with no one. When you're comfortable alone.. You can have everything.

Reviving conversation is not your job.. Its hers. When you stand on that, you won't ever have to text a girl twice before she texts you back every again.

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Also, I see that you are trying to downplay the situation a bit, as if "its not that bad". But I don't need the long explanation of the reasons you did this and that to understand whats going on. Guys go through this everything single day, and I work most of them through it. And the situation is always the same.. It actually humorous how so many of us are caught in the same loop.. Humans.. lol

Let me know if I made that clear.

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I totally understand what you're saying. I'm forcing myself not to think about it I put more effort into it than I should have. Now its time to step back, and take care of myself I actually sat last night, and thought long and hard, and came to the realization I can't depend on others for my happiness. She made me happy when I was with her, but now that things aren't the way I would like them to be I gotta step away. Like I said the worst thing I can do now is chase, and at the end of the day I'm the one that's responsible for my happiness, and making myself happy. So I decided feel free to tell me if you think I'm toatlly off the deep end, but I'm gonna let this be see where things go , and once my legal problems settle down I'm gonna do what I've always wanted to and travel to Thailand. I personally think there are feelings on her part I don't think one date that went a little awkward should be enough to ruin things. She's upset with her family issues, and being sick, so who knows maybe I'm making more of an issue in my own head, but for now I'm gonna take responsibility for my own happiness. Once again I truely appreciate the advice!

One other thing I'd like to get your opinion on is a couple years ago I was seeing this girl. I didn't realize how badly she was hung up on her ex. That's what utimately ruined the relationship. I gave it one last try she was a boxer as well, so I txtd her after her fight, and said hey just wondered how you were feeling after your fight. Haven't talked that much lately just wondered if everything was ok? No reply so at that point I realized there is nothing more I can do or say so I froze her out. About a week later she started liking everything I posted on fb. That was her saying she wanted to talk again. I find in situations like this I've had a few of them I say something considerate like what I mentioned above, and get no reply after a few days or so the oh shit I'm losing him tension builds up until they reach out in one way or another. That's kinda how I think it will play out with this girl. What are your thoughts on that? The situation I mentioned above is similar to this one in the fact I made a nice gesture,and was ignored. So in my opinion even though I maybe put more effort in than I should have I didn't see it that way at the time I was trying to lead I'd talk to her, and think of something exciting that she has never done before, and that would be our date or if it was something a little more bland I'd make it a surprise, but imo if I were to chase her that would basically say I have no self worth. That's just my opinion feel free to correct anything you think is wrong.

Read "The Road Less Travelled" by M. Scott Peck. It is everything you need to know about this very subject.

thanks man! I read some of it on pdf good read! The thing is the things I did and said I viewed more as leading. Looking at it now they could also be seen as trying too hard, but that's only as of recent. I'm not in the proper mindset to figure anything out now due to other issues mostly negative ones, so I forwarded my entire convo with this girl to 3 other friends all girls, and told them all to give me their absolute blunt truthful thoughts of it. Each one said they did not see anything wrong only thing that they saw was in my last couple msg's I might been trying too hard. All 3 of them said the exact saMe thing step away let her come to you. What's the worst you did make a nice gesture? So that's how I'm leaving it. At the moment I'm trying not to think about it because I have more pressing issues like how to get out of this lawsuit with my house lol.

Yes you've done your part she knows you like herm she has to reciprocate now. If she doesn't give her a few more tries and then move on if nothing.

That's about where I'm at now. I went out tonight hung out with some friends talked to some girls doing all the right things to get my mind off not only her, but all my issues. My theory is, and like I said in my above posts correct anything you think is wrong, but if she saw what I meant to be a nice gesture as needy or try hard, and I chase her that's only gonna reinforce what she thinks, but if I don't chase don't contact for a while she might think oh maybe I lost him maybe he wasn't needy after all. Only mistake I made is a should have gone no contact a little sooner. If I am the one to reiniate contact how long should I wait? I'm thinking a week maybe week and a 1/2.

just thought I'd throw it out there I flipped on fb saw a hb I hadn't talked to for a while opened, got her new cell we're talking now, I'm also talking to a girl I met briefly tonight while I was out with my friends, and another one just on fb. Like I said in a previous post I'm the only one responsible for my happiness, as much as I hope things work out with this girl I'm not gonna sit around, and sulk about it.