I'm just going to get this off my chest. Because it annoys the fuck out of me as a student sifting through information.

Most of you are a bunch of pussies.

And no, this isn't aimed at the students of pick-up. It's Aimed at those who deem themselves worthy enough to give advice.

A bunch of realist pussies.

Yes, I use realist as an insult, because it is. One motto I seem to see over and over after studying for as long as I have is "Move on, she's not interested. Don't waste your time." Now to any other guy, this seems reasonable. Tons of fish in the sea, right? I'll give my time to some other girl.

But I will be pissed the fuck off if this is the mindset I have to look forward to once I've put the blood, sweat, and tears into this.

NOBODY gets into Pickup to be told you can't get them all. Life is what you make of it, and you only have one. To hide behind the fact that it's "Reality" or "How life works" is Cup half-empty BULLSHIT. There is NO POINT to pick-up if you're going to SETTLE. There is NO POINT TO LIFE if you settle.

This is a call to action to the people that feel the need to sit behind statistics, chance, luck, and refuse to rely on the only thing that matters- SKILL. If you're NOT getting every woman you set you sights on, YOU'RE NOT DONE YET. You're NOT a pick-up artist, You're not a Teacher or Coach, you're not ANYTHING until you achieve the dream of NEVER having to settle. STOP and ask yourself why you got into pick-up. If you haven't reached that initial goal, get to work.

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You will NEVER get every women you "set your sights" on. Get over it. No one does nor ever will, not even celebrities.

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Then what's the point of Pick up? What's the point of learning all of this shit? Any average schmuck can get laid. Any average schmuck can get lucky.

I don't know about you, but I didn't start learning game to be some average schmuck.

We didn't start gaming JUST to compete with the naturals. We're in it to be the BEST. You know you are. When you stop trying to be the BEST in EVERYTHING you set your mind to, you're failing. And in turn, you're teaching others that failing and settling is ok. Fuck that.

I know better than anyone that this shit is tough, but if you haven't reached that initial goal I don't want to hear your shit. You're still a student. Embrace it.

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So don't be average. Once you get good at PU you will have choice and variety, two things most average guys don't have.

You cant and wont get every women, get over it.

Some women:

- Are lesbians
- Have medical reasons why they cant fuck
- are madly in love with their BFs and wont cheat
- simply wont like you for whatever reason

etc... I can go on and on. Once your good at PU you will never be without women. You will have more options than you have time for but you will still never get any women you want. Just like pro basketball players dont sink every shot, pro baseball players dont hit every ball.

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As long as you never forget they never stop trying. They never stop moving forward. They're in it to do it like no one ever has. To be the best on that field, court, in the game.

Fuck conditions and setbacks. Settling is no excuse in anything you do in life. It's too short to settle, to stop trying to make your mark. Until you are the best, you're still a student. Until you get what YOU want because you have the skill and know how to get it, despite the walls life throws in front of you (Because it ALWAYS will set up roadblocks to stop you), you're not done yet.

When that Pro Basketball player drains every three, then he can say he's done.

When that Pro baseball player hits a Home run on every single pitch, then he can say he's done.

This is about setting your sights as high as possible and never settling for less than what you want to achieve. Life is full of random chance and occurrence, but it all can be overcome with Skill and Perseverance. Proven time and time again and will continue to be proven as long as the human spirit exist. Our minds are boundless, our potential limitless. I'll never allow THINKING that there's no way to do something stop me from FIGURING IT OUT, and neither should any of us.

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Your whole post is a rather verbose and lengthy way of saying "strive to be the best." I wont disagree with that. Just don't become delusional.

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i love how you just decided that this is the goal of everyone . Because everyone who studies law has to become a lawyer right ? You're simply delusional. You can't get any girl you want. Different countries have different cultures and taste. There isn't a universal formula for being attractive to every girl, we're not animals.

I do not want to be the best PUA, the best PUA are just a testament to their own failure, failure to find a woman worth holding on to, and holding onto her, is that a life you want? I wana live while i am young but sooner or later i wanna start a family, call me old fashioned but still being PUA at 50 is not my idea of good life.

Sage has a good heart and all, but if someone follows this advice, they will become perfectionists and never focus on true happiness and instead focusing on how fuck 10 for 10 girls they were to meet.

Learn how to be good with women by your own standards then my advice is to LEAVE pick up and concentrate on your overall life.

Your post means well and I understand you what you mean sage, But it's reality.

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Depends on the style you're going for. I notice a lot of PUAs learning or playing Natural game will sooner tell you to move on or give the tried and tested age old advice of "Improve yourself and be happy, that will get to her more than anything else." <--- This is true but requires a lot of time.

I said before that Natural is a numbers game where Unnatural is more about manipulation and perfection. Unnatural is harder to master and takes longer to get good at. Natural is more simplified and focuses on creating attraction up front over short periods of time. A lot of Natural is banking on emulating what women unconsciously find alluring in men(Alpha Male traits yet the reality is it's all about respect and respect of your peers, it's just the socially accepted form is what we now know to be the Alpha Male), making yourself available and hinting but not SPAM that you like them or could like them. Problem with that is not every woman actually likes your typical alpha male. Just like men, women have different types they go for. For example there are men out there who just want slutty women, like incredibly slutty in everything. Then there are guys who want women who are cute and shy and then you've some men who want the quirky and weird type. Fact is we're all different so Natural isn't going to work on every woman out there, only the general majority who are attracted to typical alpha male characteristics.

The problem with these forums is people believe there's only one way to be a PUA: The Natural. There's been an explosion of it over this last year or two where it completely overshadows Unnatural game. Coupled with this you have the same people who swear by the improvements of Natural(And there will be improvements for sure) who didn't get far with Unnatural claiming Unnatural game is dead. The reality is PUA wasn't about fucking random women, it was about seeing the women you wanted and getting them. You learned the steps it took to gain interest, attraction and then to seduce them. These days a lot of the members here will just tell you to, essentially, not be a PUA but "just get good enough with women so you can talk to them." That's not PUA.

When I first started on these forums it was different. The vets were very active, they gave real Pick Up advice and were more inclined to be relentless as opposed to telling you to move on. Everything was about experience and improvement so even if a woman wasn't into you you were expected to walk away from it after having learned something definitive and improved on. There was also a lot more down to earth and heavy hitting advice that people just needed to hear. One of them was: "Man the fuck up and just do it." Lots of that going around, no mental masturbation, no big reach arounds, just the occasional slap to the face to wake you up and definitive advice on the matter. Thing is, it worked!

I apologize, my quote button isn't working in post haha.

Warped- That's exactly what i'm saying, it's lengthy so my point gets across.


Gapi- I dislike people like you. You're on pick-up-artist-forum.com. The fuck else are you trying to do? You're trying to seduce women yes? Like a pick up artist yes? This is what Pick up artist do. They go out, and game the hottest chicks. I may be delusional, but at least I'm not lying to myself about what I want in life buddy *rolls eyes*


Ddos- Like I stated, this wasn't directed at students or people who are just trying to learn how to be attractive. This was at the teachers, the ones who consider themselves PUA's. Fact is a PUA isn't doing himself justice when he settles for less than his best like in anything you do in life. You don't want to game forever, ok cool. Just note you're on Pick-up-artist-forum.com So, yeah, pretty self-explanatory.

Games SN- Exactly! I agree 100% The main problem is that this Natural mindset has taken everyone away from what it means to be a Pick up artist in this community. Now it's all about numbers, odds, and chance rather than it being Skill that you've worked on and honed through trial and error. Guys are not willing to take as much responsibility, and instead of approaching massively to LEARN SOMETHING, they approach massively to BETTER THEIR ODDS, and eventually, SETTLE. "At least I got laid right?" *Facepalm*

PEBBLE- Thanks, I appreciate the "Good heart" comment, its one of my best qualities IMO. And yeah, listen to me and you'll become a perfectionist fucking 10 out of 10 hot women, formerly known as a PUA.

On a personal level for myself, I love Pick up. At this point, I'd love to still be doing it while i'm old, figuring out new ways to adapt to my age. And Yes, I personally want to be the best at what I do. Not as a competition, but as a personal goal. I love women, and I find the notion of seducing them cute and sexy. I want to seduce them all (But my dick is a picky fucker ) It's what I want. To want to seduce them all is blatant Idealism I know, but imo its much better than taking life because other people tell you to take it one way. If it's something you want, go all out. Life is too short any other way.

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actions speak louder than words ... if there is a problem with the community than it would be that ... "you don't need to tell us how successful you will be you just need to show us"

So what happens after you learn to fuck every girl you meet?

Threesome cold approach? Then foursome and so on.. :p

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Ok then go pick up your sister, go pick up your mother. You stupid sack of shit, not every woman is pick up able there is something called Values, respect, standards and loyalty which some girls have, so shut the fuck up before I charm my way in to your mothers heart and make you my bitch son in law.

I read your post again and on second glance I have to think your at least semi-trolling.

Your signature says:
In summation, "Backbreaker" (whoever that is) is saying not to waste time with southern girls if your a black man. You have this quote in your signature so I have to conclude you agree with the premise of the quote.

However, you go on to say in your original post of this thread:
Now take what you said in relation to the quote in your signature. To me it seems like the black guy, by moving to LA, is settling that he cant get women in the south and is settling for LA women.

Lets look at another quote from your original post in relation to your signature.
Again you appear to disagree with what you have in your signature. I mean, why doesn't the black man just get more skill?

Here is another quote from you:
So again you are contradicting your signature. Why shouldn't the black man stay in the south instead of moving on and not wasting his time?

I'd also like to address how silly the following quote from you is:
By your logic, neither Tiger Woods or Micheal Jordan should ever be able to teach or coach simple because Tiger doesn't always make hole in ones and Micheal never made 100% of his shots. GREAT logic you have there.

Another quote of yours...
As we have already seen, you have faulty logic and the stuff you say contradicts yourself yet a person is supposed to follow said contradicting advice of yourself and fuck EVERY women they ever want too? You seem like another marketer just trying to sell people the "magic pill" and prey on their hopes and dreams using bad selling points covered in faulty logic and outright bullshit.

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