Alright, I've noticed that quite a few guys on here are having logistical issues because they live with their parents and have no where to bring girls back to. I'm going to give you a VERY simple plan of action to move the fuck out of your parents house and start making some money to support yourself. Enough of this "mommy, I need 10 dollars!" bullshit. Quit complaining. Start doing something

Okay, so there are 2 simple steps to doing this....


Step 1: Go out and get a JOB.

Now, I'm not talking about any ordinary job. (i.e. working as a clerk at a gas station or stocking shelves at Wal-Mart) I want you to go out and get a job in SALES. I want you to go out and get a job where unless you actually WORK, you don't get paid. Commission sales is the best way to do that. Sales is not easy. But, just like getting good with women, it's a skill. It can be learned and can be a VERY rewarding career.

So, why do I say get a job in sales? Again, getting a job in commission sales, unless you work, you don't get paid. And second, getting a job in commission sales, you work for yourself. You are your own boss. You create your own salary. I'll be damned if I ever work a job where I allow someone tell me what I'm worth at an hourly rate. That's bullshit. A job in sales allows you to set your own "value." The harder you work, the more money you make. And best of all.... YOU DON'T NEED A COLLEGE DEGREE TO BE IN SALES!! That's right. No excuses as to why you can't do this.

Also, sales is a skill that NO MATTER WHAT YOU DO IN LIFE, you NEED to have. Sales is everything. Even if you are a doctor, you need sales skills in order to sell your practice to potential clients. People who think they are too good for sales are foolish. It is a skill that EVERYONE must have. Quit thinking that you are better than being a salesman.

(For those of you that want to learn how to do well in sales, I'm working on a YouTube series at the moment, which will start this coming Monday and I will post a new video hopefully every day, where I will teach you everything I know about sales. From the mindset and lifestyle of a successful salesman down to the skills and techniques that you need to learn in order to make money doing it. I've been in sales since I was 14 years old. I didn't go to school... My knowledge of how to make money comes from real world experience.)

Step 2: Go get some bills

Rack up the bills. Set a fire underneath your ass. Give yourself a reason to go out and make money. Rent an expensive ass apartment. Buy an expensive car. Get some credit cards. The more bills, the better. Because when you have OBLIGATIONS, you work harder. Put yourself through the discomfort of having to figure out a way to pay the rent or how to put food on your table. It will make you work just THAT MUCH HARDER. Even if you don't have the ability to get a bunch of expensive shit... Get some bills. Stop relying on mommy and daddy to take care of you. MAN THE FUCK UP!

See, a big thing I've noticed, is when people live with their parents, they don't work as hard as they could. If you have the comfort of a free roof over your head or a hot meal that mommy makes you, where is your incentive to make any money? Where is your incentive to work? Every person has whats called a "thermostat." A thermostat is where you are in your life that you feel comfortable. Everyones thermostat is different. Some people are comfortable with the bare minimum. Be better than the bare minimum. Stop being a stay at home son and set the bar for yourself that you want to be a fucking baller. Personally, as of right now, if I make less than 100k a year, I feel uncomfortable. I feel like I didn't accomplish financially what I wanted to accomplish. I'm almost 26 years old and that number will be 1 million/ year by the time I'm 30. That's my personal standard. That's where my "thermostat" is set at. Set the bar high for yourself and do whatever it takes to get there... but stop relying on mommy and daddy to make you comfortable.

Don't go to work and "wait to save up enough money to move out." Just fucking do it. Be an adult. Stop relying on your parents to hold your hand and coddle you when things are rough.

Being independent is simple. You just have to start doing it. And you know what, WOMEN WANT A MAN WHO IS INDEPENDENT! NOT A MOMMA'S BOY!!

Feel free to ask any questions or discuss.

-Jay

im 20, in school now and saving up to go to medical school should i still do it??cause i thought about moving out at like 23-24?

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Sure man. Why not? Get that skill to put on your resume. Develop that work ethic of a hustler. It will pay off for you in the long run.

i mean i want a job in sells BUT im worried that it'll be to much on me if i move out now.....medical school expensive AF lol

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The worst that could happen is that you would have to move back in. Go take a risk.

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Exactly. If you fail, you learned something. If you succeed... You'll be glad you did it. Either way, its win/win.

Hello there. I`m very interested on those sales videos; always wanted to learn a set of skills that allows to sell me best.

I`m still living with my mother and my sister; so I fall for that cathegory. Already have a great job making SPAM and it pays really well, allows me to study. About to become a lawyer, in 2 years from now, it`s been 4 of that career.

Still is not the kind of sallary that allows you to move the fuck out; rent is high as fuck in my country. What I want to do is to buy my own apartment but it`s gonna take some savings and a long time for payment.

Definitely man. I will let you know on Monday when I get the YouTube Channel up and running.

Hey I really appreciate hearing the OP's opinion on this. Personally, I lived with my dad throughout college and it was a constant source of trouble telling people I lived at home. Thankfully, I basically just took over the basement and called it mine own (had a kitchenette and everything); I just started telling people I was renting the basement and brought up the father subject after getting past the "judgement" phase.

With that said, I agree with the OP. There's no reason to not have a job, especially if you're living at home. I had a good paying job, lost it and have since picked up a part-time seasonal sales job, it only pays marginally more than unemployment but, saying you sell fine jewelry (or wherever you end up working) sounds a lot better to women than telling them you just sit on the couch all day.

Quick Tip: If for some reason you don't have a job (e.g. just graduated) tell women/people you're a professional jobseeker if they ask what you do. The time it takes them to figure out what you said takes the shock out of being jobless and you end up looking clever for putting a positive spin on a bad situation.
Southern_gentlemangg, this is the main reason I didn't move out during college. I was still working during college to have spending money, but it was only part time. Than in the summer I'd pick up a second job to really maximize my time. I can't say which is better from the perspective of pick up (having a job vs. your own place) but I have found that if a girl is comfortable enough with you she'll be willing to do it just about anywhere that feels private, including a room at your parents place.

Sorry if I got a little long winded. I hope this helps you guys out.

See I was interested in this at the start. The part about starting young really intrigued me. I'm 18 still in school working a shit job with good people. I want to get into these Sales. Where do you start or is this something you'll be mentioning in your series?

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PUSSY, MONEY, WEED.

Isn't it depressing to live by yourself? Sure it's fun when you bang chicks at your crib but they're not going to be there 24-7... unless you're in that type of relationship

You're not going to be there very often if you are there by yourself. It's encouragement to go out

This is probably the worst advice I've ever heard. People in college, wait to graduate, get a job, and then leave. If you're not planning to go to college join the force or get a trade, then get a job, save up, then leave. You can't even get an apartment nine times out of time without a deposit. This has to be some of the worst and most financially destructive advice I've ever heard.

Just because you're in pick up doesn't mean that real world problems don't apply to you. Learn how to get a job and get a cheap hotel/motel. There are plenty of hotels that give rooms for 30$ for 4 hours. That's all you'll need.

Yeah man, this is something I'll be talking about in the videos but I'll answer your question right now.

You can honestly start anywhere. The great thing about a sales job is you really don't need much experience doing it. Most places will atleast give you a shot. If you suck, they fire you. But that's part of the learning experience. If you want to get into sales, the best thing I can suggest is keep plowing through it. Never give up. If one place fires you, go out and get a new job right away. Don't beat yourself up over it.

With a sales job, the managers usually praise the guys who are performing and fire the guys who aren't. It's just the nature of the business. It's a very cut throat environment. You are probably going to have to put in some of the grunt work for a while. There are alot of "growing pains" getting into a sales job. Hopefully, I'm going to help you get over some of those growing pains with these videos.

What usually happens, if you go in there and bust your fucking ass trying to make something happen, you will eventually find a guy who will take you under his wing and show you the ropes. Essentially, with this video series, I'm going to be showing everyone the ropes how to handle the nature of the beast in a career in sales. I mentor people with pick up now so this is something extra I'm doing because it's something I know very well and have noticed that there are alot of guys in the community looking for help with it.

Stay tuned and I'll let you know when those videos are up and rolling. I'm shooting for tomorrow.

Going to college or a "trade school" makes you a fucking monkey of society if you ask me. I've noticed that people who go away to college wait to be told what to do their entire lives. They wind up graduating and sitting around their parents house until "something comes their way." I have alot of friends who I saw go through this. It's sad. Then, when some mediocre job that does validate them going to school and getting a degree (woo hoo! you graduated from a school and know NOTHING about your job still! Good job!) and they spend all the money that they do make paying down their student loans.

So, YOUR advice of "wait, be a pussy, stay with your mommy and daddy until you feel safe" is the worst advice ever. That's what people are already doing. That's why so many guys in their 20s are sitting around acting all defeated. Cause up until they graduated college, they had someone holding their hand. Then the real world slapped them in the face...

And as far as renting an apartment.... dude, deposits are cheap. That's all you need to "save up" for. Other than that, don't sit around your parents house waiting for your bank account to grow. It doesn't work like that. If you don't have a motive to make money, you won't make any money. It's simple. Get an apartment. Get some bills for yourself. Start finding shit to pay for so you have a motive to make money.

Get out there. Take a fucking beating from this bitch called "life." Get back up. Get hit again. Stop letting your parents coddle you and tell you "it's all going to be okay." Be a fucking adult. Women don't want a little boy. Women want a man. There are very few girls who are going to be completely okay with you working some bullshit job or being a "Full Time Son" and having sex with you at some sleaze ball motel. Grow up.