Okay so here is a situation.. A girl comes and sits to our table where i sit with my classmates.. My classmate, pretty much alpha male, asks her questions quickly before she even sit and keep talking mostly with her.. How do i get this girls attention?? Or what else should i do?

Speak to the girl with your eyes and body language instead. Let the guy talk and make him look eager to please.

Also talk to other girls to build your confidence. Don't just focus on one girl.

You can't make a guy look eager to please that isn't.. Theres no way I could be at a table with a guy and girl and he could make me appear needy by staying quiet and holding eye contact. I'm just talking; he's welcome to enter the conversation - granted, he has something to say.

To the OP:

No risk - No reward. You just have to speak up and risk being ignored or neglected.. Theres no magic power pill that you can swallow to make you more dominate than someone who's been more dominate than you their entire lives. You have to work and build yourself and the only way to do so is to take risk.

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You are assuming the guy the OP is describing is like you. He doesn't sound like a relaxed guy like you. He sounds like a guy who never shuts up.

To the OP, try isolating the girl when the other guy is not around. This is why I prefer daygame. Why bother competing with a sausage-fest of chodes?

doesn't seem like the odds are in your favor... he could very well be annoying her too. Best to approach her in another situation when he's not trying to over power the convo.

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wow thanks guys.. i love this forum

What happens if you put two alpha males in the same room?

I remember a story my mother told me from some kind of workshop in a course about leadership. A part of the education was a psychological experiment - put two alpha males in the same room and see what happens. The situation got out of hand quite fast to say the least. They both wanted to overpower each other and be the center of attention.

In this case both refused to fall back to beta. In the context of pickup it means that both will look stupid and spoil every chance they have with the girl. Both will loose since they are cockblocking each other. With this in mind, if you just want to fuck someone's game up, you can try to compete with him about her attention.

The normal thing that happens is that one falls back and become beta. If it is you, you loose. If it is your competitor, you win. If you can't make your competitor become beta you need to isolate the girl (that's what chimpanzees do).

I hope that was helpful.

This is from an article I wrote a while back. I can't post the link here because the mods don't like when I do that.... But here are the contents of it...

1. Blow him out- Make him look like an idiot. Every shot he takes at you, take it to an extreme.
(example: “NICE SHIRT FAG!” “Thanks man! I actually have another one in blue too! I’m glad you approve!”)
Say that with a stupid, cocky, arrogant smirk on your face and watch the girl become more attracted to you. Remember, it is not about the spot light in the bar… it is the audience. Losing your frame to someone who throws a shot at you is a beta move.

2. Befriend Him- Direct your conversation towards him. Get his attention and teach him something. Explain something to him and allow your target to hear the conversation (not necessarily get her involved.. You want to ultimately get rid of him.) Demonstrating that you are able to make friends with even someone who is trying to make your value appear less will put your targets attraction THROUGH THE FUCKING CEILING. By teaching him something or involving him in YOUR conversation, you are demonstrating your social intuition and your inner confidence by taking authority over his actions while maintaining control of your own.

3. Ignore Him- The straight up, rockstar mentality. This, in my opinion, is the most effective way to show that you truly are the leader of fucking men. Act as if you are smoke and each shot he throws at you is just a rock that passes straight through. What is REALLY cool about this technique… If you maintain eye contact with your target and continue the conversation as if he doesn’t exist, she will sense your strong frame and you can FEEL that emotion coming from her.


Hope this helps you out bro