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PostPosted: Sun Nov 24, 2013 12:49 am 
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This is my first post in this forum, and the post is going to be long!

About myself:

I am an asian international student studying in ivy league school. back in my country, im good with women because I am considered to be handsome (sry not trying to be boastful) and im also a guitarist. I about 2 years into game, having some success with women. In US, I dont game much because i dont feel like myself due to culture difference and my accent, which makes it hards to get the hotter asian american. I only get IOIs from ok looking asian americans, so no interest haha. I would say my style of gaming is cocky and funny with more intellectual girl that go to school, not just partying. My sticking point sometimes is with nice girl because i tend to scare them away.

This year im a junior, and there is a new freshmen girl from the same country as me. shes HB8 which is very pretty relative to other ppl from my country in my school. So the problem here is already my frame is from scarcity because theres only 1 target who i rlly wanna game with haha. we have known each other for almost 3 months but i dont see much progress at all.

About her:

since shes pretty i thought shes going to get used to being approached by guys. I was wrong, turned out she never hav a bf before. however, she is still feminine as she likes to comment about guys. she is the nice girl that spends most of her time studying and doing school related stuff. she is very shy and introvert. in a big group gathering, she always in the corner only talking to her girl friend of the same age. it is very hard to have a conversation with her because u always have to be the one initiating it and she doesnt respond much unless it is really the topic she wanna talk on (ex: movie she likes etc). So I thought introvert girl will talk more through texting, but on phone she also hardly reply. braddock phone game stuff doesnt work at all. this is not just for me, she also doesnt reply to all the guys i know even though they are not hitting on her. however, it seems like she is checking her phone all the time but mostly texting with her girl friends.

My progress:

Since we live on the same campus, i tried ask her to have meal at food court before but got rejected mostly ahah. I seems like that only time i can ask her out is when her friend is coming with her. And the only time she really talk and be herself is when theres just her friend and me. in most encounter i never get IOIs, but one time when there was only me and her girl friends, i get some IOI, which i thought will do me good. but one day after that everything is back to normal, she doesnt reply text again. I feel like i have lost lots of value, since i gets lots of NO like rejection for casual meal, no reply text, and awkward conversation. my gaming frame now is jsut to be a nice guy who will take care of her cuz i think if i can finally break into her world, i will win cuz flirting is my thing. so now im trying hard to build comfort.

Questions:

Can anyone that expeirenced similar situation give some suggestion?

Is it possible to get back even tho now i lost value and the girl know im hitting on her and kinda scared of me a bit?

-tepg


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 24, 2013 1:29 am 
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Dear Ivy League,
Here are some general tips:

-You're taking yourself too seriously. Maybe you should relax and stop obsessing over this poor girl who obviously doesn't have feelings for you. Part of learning game is that you have to keep in mind that not all women are going to be into you.
-Look into low-energy game. Adopt an aloof attitude when it comes to social commitments. I imagine that you're the kind of guy who likes to be the center of attention. While it's ok to garner attention remember that at some women will have a hard time taking you seriously.
-Make more genuine female friends; this demonstrates you have a high enough value for other women to want to be with you.
-Gain 10-25 lbs. of muscle mass. If you're asian you're probably scrawny by American standards. Get big. The bigger you are the more others will see you as dominant.
-Take a break from the condescending attitude. If you constantly make others feel terrible then they're just going to resent you.

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 26, 2013 12:07 am 
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haha thx


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 26, 2013 12:54 am 
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Wow, this girl is really, really, really scared. Always has to be around that one female friend, barely talks, barely texts, just keeps to herself and her study. She might be really smart but one day she'll have to realise that to be successful in business she's going to have to get good at dealing with people, which she's not.

She is going to be a lot of work, and you should definitely try, but in the end she may or may not be right for you. Once you ween her off her friend, it will be you she's hanging around all the time for emotional support, and me personally, that makes me very much less interested, less turned on. I like someone more independent.

Having said all that - you need to build a LOT of comfort with her. You may well be on the right path, it's just going to be a lot of no feedback on your progress before you finally see any. You just have to keep demonstrating that you're out to care for her, won't take advantage of her, and are willing to just have a nice interaction with no specific outcome. If you can have a nice chat and then say your goodbyes and leave, without setting up a date or something like that which will put pressure on her, she will eventually, through repetition, see that you don't expect something for the interaction, and won't get scared that you won't be expecting a date, or when you finally do get on a date, won't be expecting sex at the end of it.

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 26, 2013 8:11 pm 
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Thx Conker, thats very helpful! What you said is similar to what I think too. Will you mind if i ask some more questions?

I think im in a bad situation here because everyone knows im hitting on her. And girl this type, i think it is better to go super stealth mode because she will be shy if other ppl know about her personal life. I made it obvious that Im hitting on her. our latest encounter is a low note, i DLV by being needy and trying to talk to her all the time and she just replied and laughed awkwardly. Im afraid to get more no because it will leads to never haha.

My question:
Is it still possible to regain value? From my experience I usually stop gaming with girls that have no interest after i show interest or lose value, but now im in scarce (sry for being an AFC haha). Im thinking of not talking to her in any social gathering and only talk when the flow comes naturally.

If ur me how would u build comfort? Do u think it will look bad if i keep on texting her low investment stuff and keep it fun and caring like (how did u do on test and how is your day), but get few replies. Or do u think by doing this long enough she will be less scare and start having a normal text with me?


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