Browsing through the forum posts, I guess it's clear that when it comes to a relationship, 70% PUA + 30% AFC can make it work decently. But precisely what PUA qualities actually work well in a relationship?

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Women are plenty, time is not.

I'd really like if someone could answer that.. want to open a topic about it but then i found this one

Yes, I hope so too.

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Women are plenty, time is not.

Actions can't be "PUA" or "AFC" as these things are states of being, not adverbs. HOW you behave and WHAT you do isn't nearly as important as your motivation for doing it and the way you go about it.

Separating yourself from those labels is a good first step.

Your boy,
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In my opinion, being a PUA is not acquiring a skill set, but building a whole new dimension to a person's characteristic.

If you have an attractive characteristic which is of PUA nature, do not lose it during the relationship, this is of utmost importance in my personal experience. For example if you practice cat-string theory during the attraction phase, dont stop using it when you are in a relationship, your girl will get complacent. Continue DHV and apply reward/punishment model, as long as she doesnt see any better alternative than you, she will stay with you.

Ofcourse being in a relationship is different than when you are sarging, in term of the emotional attachment that connect you both, but do not let it cloud your sense and judgment. It is ok to shower her with love and care as long as you feel like, but keep a clear boundary between ass-kisser and care-giver.

Cheers,

I love this topic... I have debated it several times... Here's my 2 cents:

First of f I've been happily married for 5 years now... I have always ben a cocky funny alpha male, therefore when we are around other people I try and be the life of the party or the leader if there is decision making to do (no matter how long you've known someone you can still "increase your value"in there eyes by being a leader) Now that's basic psychology 101 and every body on this forum will agree to that technique.. "inner game" I believe y'all call it... Now here's where my thinking becomes unconventional... When there are other girls around I still innocently "game" them and apply all of the body language/kino techniques that any PUA would use... Now at first my wife was threatened by this and told me it was disrespectful but I maintained my position that this is my personality and that's just who I am... NOW TO COUNTER ACT this I shower my wife with PDA anytime I get a chance (i still find her incredibly sexy and I love to feel her skin against mine anytime I get a chance (so in between building rapport with the new girls at the party I make sure my baby knows I only have eyes for her (let me stop right here and say I AM FAITHFUL AND HAVE NEVER CHEATED ON HER...i say this because you cannot innocently flirt with other girls in front of your wife if you've been a cheater)

So on one hand I build attraction with other women while showing my dedication to my one and only wife.. This sets me up for a perfect push-pull scenarios that I can use on the wife based on what's needed at the time... Ultimately I get the best of both worlds cause all of my wifes friends wasn't to fuck me and she knows it BUT on the other hand she knows I'm faithful to only her... This does two things if done properly, it boosts my wifes own ego because she greeks like she has one of the coolest guys in the group and it increases the attraction she feels for me... Not to mention she feels the need to keep the sex new and exciting in order to keep me entertained...

These techniques won't work for everyone but if you have a strong trusting relationship then this is the route to go...

I have also learned that its ok to hold your girl up on a pedestal as long as you have a strong confident frame and every now and then you have to remind them that you are the male in the relationship that being alpha comes along with the territory...

Can't wait to hear your feedback

Bmitchell1876 that was probably one of the best advices I ever read agree 120% with you.

lol

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-flirt with other girls still

+1 to bmitchell, I do this in my current (and best past) LTRs. Try to be the social leader, with her, and with groups; be the life of the party. Flirt with other girls in front of her in a way that has some plausible deniability - ideal thing is when I am joking and teasing and negging the random girl and she starts kino'ing me with the upper-arm touch that girls always do.

The counterintuitive nature of a lot of PUA techniques, like negs and preselection and disqualification push-pull and aloof body language and getting them to do favors for you, allows you to deploy them with the air that you not flirting with the girl, or even pushing her away. At least if your girl doesn't know PUA stuff or know you too well.

I said to main girl, when she talks to me after the party about other girl flirting: "after I noticed she touched me on the arm a few times, you'll recall how I made a few jokes to the group at her expense, and made reference to you being my girl, and waved you over" . In other words I negged the other girl, was cocky-funny, and showed preselection by waving my girlfriend over and talking about her - all things that increased the other girl's attraction to me, but seem to other observers like I am disinterested. (Also I got the other girl to go get me a drink lol.) Now, b/c my girl knows me well and b/c I don't want to be too dishonest, I did tell her something similar as bmitchell does, 'well arguably I was flirty but it's really just how I win over people and groups, it wasn't about getting in her pant, when you're a guy you can't just walk into a room and have people want to talk to you cuz you're hot, you have to win the crowd, and some of that overlaps with flirtiness' (all true)

The girl may very well give you crap, get angry, cry, etc. That's OK, important thing is to maintain your frame, be her rock, do not get angry or defensive, do the thing where you do not make concrete concessions or apologies but your air is one of love and understanding...pump her some good emotions and then change the topic. "Change her mind, not her mood." Even though it feels like you f'ed up, you will increase your value to her, b/c Preselection and Social Dominance Uber Alles.

Ideal scenario is main girl seems other girls want you, but you don't want the other girls (b/c then 1. she has nothing to blame you for 2. you seem higher value if you aren't interested in a flirty hottie). However, being a guy means that unless you are exceptionally good looking, or have existing social proof / reputation to the other girls, you will have to game the other girls some to generate that attraction. So you learn the balance of what tactics and how much is the right amount.