As a lot you guys on here do, I typically keep small group of girls, seeing as constantly searching for 1 night stands on the weekend can be tiresome. Additionally, it gives my game some balance between more traditional courting, and speed seduction, which I usually run at college parties.

In short, I narrowed my small group down to 1 main girl. I was trying to develop something deeper, but at the same time I remained independent, a still gamed girls at I met at parties. That was about 2 months ago. My main girl had relationship issues from her most recent ex, so we cut it off a month ago. Pretty soon after I cut it off, I hit up one of my girls from the small group that was feeling me a month prior. Our conversation went like this:

-Me: I recently broke up with my "girlfriend" and so I want to take you out and get to know you better, Lets go do X, and go to party X (I didnt want to explaining that it wasnt exclusive)

-Her: I have a boyfriend now but I still want you to be my friend.

-Me: I think it's best that I leave you alone and give you space. I won't ask you out or invite you to anything.

1 month goes by since the conversation, and she starts asking why I do not sit by her and talk to her during class. She tells me that I have replaced her with another girl from class, and that that girl is my new BFF. The only response that I gave her was that the new girl was not my new BFF. I didn't want to cater to her shit tests and jealousy.

Today she decides to walk home with me from class. (we live nearby) Not before long the conversation turns sexual. She asks me is I think she's pretty, or if she is overweight, etc, etc. instead of buying into her shit tests, I tease her about her self image.

I feel at this point I have two options. Ignore her some more, and have her keep chasing, which means more attention spent on me and less on boyfriend. Or, since I get the feeling she is horny, invite her to a party and get ultra aggressive. Other than appearing indifferent and ignoring the girl, what is best policy in situations involving boyfriends? When is the best time to pull the trigger, or should you not pull the trigger at all, and let the girl do all the work until she is alone and vulnerable with you?

Isolate and go caveman.

Most people want to fuck... or to put it differently, they need to satisfy their own desires. Her lusting after you is an outgrowth of an emotionally dull but fundamentally "stable" relationship with her boyfriend. She wants drama just as much as she wants sex.

However in order to pursue this one needs some sort of subtextual narrative to appease their conscience. There's no way she's going to outright cheat. You need to be aggressive. She'll resist at first, reminding you that she's "taken" (that's part of the fantasy) but ultimately she'll give in.

Of course, this is assuming she's giving you some clear IOIs. In this case it seems like she is.

For the most part, cheating makes most situations terrible. However I imagine she's unhappy if she's still hitting you up. Just pursue and see where it takes you.

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Solid. What are your thoughts on pulling the trigger at a party? I feel possible SPAM in which both of us could deny responsibility. "There was alcohol, we decided to drink, and one thing lead to another."

Well, that will ruin her reputation so she might not be down. Or maybe she likes the abuse. Try it. However if her bf is easily angered he might try to kick your ass.

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Well the other option would be to invite her over to my place during the day to work on school work. Basically start with a lot of high tension keno from the start. Get on my bed to study (we have study on my bed before). Then break the tension and get really aggressive. I'm an amateur body builder, so as far as fights go,
I am not concerned.

Well, let's see...

It really depends on what your aim is with this girl. Are you trying to maintain a harem or just looking for a quick fuck?

-If harem, then take her out on a date, do something nice, kiss her early on in the date so she knows what she's getting into. Then go caveman whenever (and wherever!) the time seems right. I'm sure you'll know.

-If just a fuck then just invite her over under the pretense of studying. Then go caveman. She knows what's going on.

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The ultimate lesson of psychoanalysis is that human life is never "just life": we are possessed by the strange drive to enjoy life in excess, attached to a surplus which derails the ordinary run of things.
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As much as she wants it, I believe she has too much self respect have sex right away. I just shot her a text, and decided to take the middle ground of the two options. I decided on a quick lunch date and then study session. I feel like the lunch date will be a great opportunity to build keno and get the pressure going. She will really be anticipating coming back to my place to study.

Interesting change of events: so the girl was running way late to our study session since he accidentally fell asleep for too long. I decided to cancel and refused to work on any of the material with her, since i was busy. A day goes by, and then I have class today. I go sit by the girl that was making the original chick jealous. For sake of clarification, im going to call the girl I sit by Jane, and the original girl bre. Jane has a boyfriend to but were still usually flirty. Today she seem more into it than usual. Good body language with her legs, and constantly leaning out of her desk with her low cut shirt, basically putting her tits in my face. The whole time she is licking and bitting her lips, and putting her finger in her mouth. Anyways Bri calls me over to work on some stuff in class. We get a little banter going back and forth briefly. I go back to Jane and stay there until the end of class. Before the end of class she makes it a point to say she no longer has a boyfriend. The comment came out of nowhere. I left class with bre and walked home. During the walk Bre tells me that she has been talking to some of her friends about the way I tease her. In closure, I tentatively Invited both girls to a party, that way I can cancel on them easier.


Tell me if I'm wrong, but the way I'm reading the situation is that Jane wants a good fuck to feel better about herself since her old relationship ended poorly. At moment she has a deep need to feel wanted. On the other hand Bre is using me to fill some void in her currently relationship. In any event I feel the chances and the time frame I'd fuck Jane in are much higher, so my time is better spent there.

Imma give them the details to a party tomorrow night. If both decide to come, should I cancel with bre, or let both girls compete for my attention?

You probably don't need to game Jane all that much; if she's dropping such huge hints that's basically them giving you the green light to do whatever. Just kiss her and see where it goes from there.

Bre on the other hand is likely dating a beta/herb and she's feeling depressed because of it. Again, she's giving you huge green lights to at least fuck her a few times. In my book this ALWAYS disqualifies a chick from being long term material; she's untrustworthy, disrespectful, selfish, weak, manipulative, etc.

It sounds like you're having trouble pulling the trigger.

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Uhh, start banging Jane and stop wasting time on wheel of brie until her boyfriend stops snacking on it? Not rocket science.

Valid point Manjo. I will get on that. As far as pulling the trigger, my concern is that there is a good chance one would find out about the other. They are both in same class. I am not going to see either of them for a week since I'm going to California. Not too long after that, the semester is over. I figure pull the trigger on Jane before break (keeping it on the down low), and once Jane and Bre's man leave for winter break, start seeing Bre.
Once the next semester starts up, the two girls won't have the same class, and I can better purse my end goal of messing around with both of them.

Perhaps the main criticism I can see is that without fast action, the girls will get bored or in the case of Jane, she will find someone else.

Given the circumstances, I feel patience and being disinterested may be the better approach.

Thoughts?

Adonis,

have sex with Jane before break, flirt a bit days after the lay and just out of the blue set a date for a meet right after the break, along the lines of "So I just realized that we won't be in the same class anymore after break. Huh. So I guess you'll just have to take me out for coffee when school starts up again." That way you get to lay her and still keep her interest up.

Bre - keep flirting but be a bit unattainable. When the bf disappears, you will be top of the list, if you won't be even the reason why the bf disappears in the first place.

Just my thoughts.

Sarge On,

Invictus85

^thanks man. I like the one liner your provided

Ask yourself a few questions.

1) Will you knowingly put yourself in a potential sticky situation?
2) What is your motivation?
3) What are your values around the matter of cheating? If its just for a screw then go ahead. My values would stop me from doing so as I wouldn't want a woman doing that behind my back. If you want a LTR with this person, the fact that she's got attachment issues (won't leave the relationship before engaging with someone else) is a massive red flag.

It's not cheating as long as you make sure the girl knows the deal, you're just messing around or FWB. If you mislead a girl who wants a mongamous relationship when you don't yeah that's pretty low.

Keep us updated on how it goes with Jane, OP. I'd just ask her to come over to my place for some classwork and escalate from there if she's giving that many IOI's.