Hello, I need help if any ones willing to offer. Basically I am just getting back into game after a spending time in relationships and just smoking weed between. I am now off the weed, I was doing every day. Well anyway, last year I have not been going out. Mainly because I moved back to my home town in south Yorkshire after years of been away from UK and I just wanted some time out, so I just spent the last year smoking weed with "bros" and building my business. Anyway, I got an invite to go into two last Saturday with my younger 18 year old sister and her friends (mostly male). Well I made my focus to just be on a really good vibe, be positive, have good conversation with the people in my group etc. Well i met this one girl, we was outside, she was on a table on her own so I just made eye contact, smiled, moved over and asked if I could sit here all cool like

Great chat, was much shorter than we both wanted as her cusion was wanting to go to anther bar, but ok, I took her number, i txt her sunday night, she replies today, she asked for my facebook and then we have a facebook conversation.

I was hoping for the analyst on that FB conversation. can I just post here?

Yes.

OK, so editing the names etc out i see a number of errors on my part,
So i am left hanging, I will leave it a few days then call her on a good vibe, anyway guys, help me save this one.
I am totally into this one ah.

Conversation started today
Her

Hey
Me

Well hello NAME

so how was the rest of your Saturday night in the end?
Her

Didn't really do much! Went to walkabout and watched my friend pull girls, hahaha.. wasn't very fun! then we went back to the place we were at earlier and I cooked everyone breakfast! How was yours?

Oh you went to xxx School?! I went there too!
Me

No way
Her

Yeah haha!
Me

Awesome

XXX School all the way
Her

How old did you say you were again?
Me

32

i dont think i said
Her

I think you did say, then you asid 27 and then you said 32 again haha!
Me

hahaha

okokoko

I had a drink

lol
Her

Yeah
Me

yes 32

but i feel 27 to fair

to be fair
Her

haha
Me

how old are you

?

Did you stay in XXX SCHOOL until the end

?

just trying to figure out when you left x town for x town
Her

I'm 22.

Yeah I was in X school until the end

I moved to X when I was 18, then I moved to x when I was 19

Then I lived in X COUNTRY (NOT UK) until i was 21

and then when me and my sons father split up and he moved back to his country, I moved to X TOWN to be near my mum
Me

ok

what country was he from?

just curious
Her

X COUNTRY
Me

Nice country. I moved to X when I was 17

moved back to X when I was 21

got married

that last untill I was just nearly 24

(more or less)

then we spilt

(no kids)

then i moved to x country

for 3 months

then X COUNTRY for 9 months
Her

Ooh busy busy

Are you still married?
Me

then back to X COUNTRY for 2 and half years

and last years in X COUNTRY

came back to X TOWN 14 months ago

no

not married
Her

Oh okay
Me

that ended when I was 24

2 and a bit years

my last girl friend was like 14 months ago

we was together a couple of years

and when I came back to UK 14 months back

I just moved back with my family for a little bit

couldnt be arsed with dating or whatever
Her

Aww yeah I know that feeling aha
Me

hahaha

yea

i just got back

and after all that time away from family an UK

just wanted to chill

and work

and be with my lot
Her

Yeah!
Me

Well, I got a new place 2 months back

so its nice to have my own place again

I can totally say that

lol
Her

haha yeah i love having my own place
Me

I work from home as well

(like you i think)
HER

Yes
Me

so having your own space to create your own reality in is important,

So you have a son
Her

yeah
Her

he'll be 2 in January
Me

haahah

nice

my sister x

who i stay with for a bit

she has young lads, my nephews,

X is now 2 and half
Her

awww
Me

and X is 1 and a helf years
Her

cute
Me

cute as, like to play with them
Her

don't know how she copes with 2 young ones!!
Me

arrrhhhhhhhhhhhh

dont ask

its a tough job
Her

Does she do it alone too?
Me

she does a perfect job

No, she is married to a X (NON UK) guy
Her

Aw i seee
Me

but he works full time
Her

Share the load a bit i guess

oh

Me

head chef

yea

he helps allot tough

though

to be fair
Her

Thats good
Me

she is also obsessed with snakes and tattoos

its like its her thing
Her

Oh right!
Me

same as one of my other sisters X

she was out with us on Saturday, but you didn't see.

Hows have you be finding life back in UK

after spending some time away?
Her

Hmm, I like been around my friends and family again.

Miss the hot weather though
Me

tell me about it

living is X last 6 years was like 30 decrees most days

last winter

here for me was horrible

i cam back in Oct then the last winter hit
Her

aww.
Me

Her name, it was bitter darling
her

I moved from X XOUNTRY in october too! 2 years ago though
Me

bitter and cold

me 1
Her

oh you poor thing
Me

I know. I know.
Her

those harsh winter nights
Me

all alone

with one one to keep us warm as well

its just not cricket

lol
Me

hot water bottle
Me

Havent had one of them in ages
Her

I bought one a week ago!

hahaha
Me

good thinking batgirl

my place is single glazed because listed building so i need all the warmth I get
Her

Aww that must be real cold
Me

No, I just put the heating on

always warm

but i am trying to remember to turn off

when i go sleep

so my bill can be 200 not
Her

eep expensive gas bills!
Me

400
Her

my rent went out today
Me

at least it paid love

you got anther month of chilling
Her

Yeah - true!
Me

so whats xxxxx then

?

like your company or something?
Her

Not really a company

it's just my streaming alias
Me

like gaming stuffs
Her

Yeah
Me

I am rubbish at games

lol
Her

Haha yeah I remember you saying

I wasn't drunk so
Me

BUSINESS FACEBOOK PAGE

hahah

thats one of my pages
Her

Ooh i seee
Me

for the human trader side.

on algo side we dont use facebook

the game i like to play

is co-developing algos to make money on market

so its a game
Her

I have no idea what you're talking about hahaha
Me

Algos is just like A.I in a game

hahahaha

Sorry

boring work stuff.
Her

That's fine - I'll probably bore you with gaming stuff at some point

and i'll look over at you, and you'll be just say staring with glazed eyes having no idea what i'm talking about too.

sat*
Me

honestly speaking, i think if i found a game I like, i could boss it

lol
Her

Yeah, well download league of legends, it's free so
Me

maybe one day, thanks x

whats your plans fo rthis week

just work

(free is good)
Her

Nothing much - Like I said, I'm in x visiting my dad!

So probably just take X (HER SON) out to the beach for a jump in some puddles!
Me

Sorry, I missed that I think.

Good old x TOWN
Me

yes, take a nice walk tomorrow on the beach, get wrapped up
Her

Yeah
Me

should be nice

then some fish and chips for lunch

with a pot of tea
Her

Yes! sounds perfect
Me

It will be.

Kind of wish I was taking a walk on the beach now.

oh well
Her

Awww
Me

I might walk over a bride that goes over river don toorrow
Her

Do you drive?
Me

so I guess that can do
Her

River Don shall do
Me

I drive

but I am currently with out a car,

I guess I need to get one

I was thinking to pick one up

do you drive?
Her

Nooo

I'll probably learn at some point!
Me

I guess I need to hurry up then and get anther car sorted.
Her
Me

When you back in xxx

sorry

xxxx

lol

(do people call it xxxx, as like a thing, or just xxxx?)
Her

Just xxxx
Me

hahah
Her

my friends say xxxx though
Me

so right
Her
Me

so have you done any dating with any decent guy since you been back?
Her

Hmm, I dated one guy but it didn't work out.
Me

fair does.
Her

He pretty much made me pay for everything, and I'm like.. a single mum anyway don't have too much money.
Me

was he with some problmes
Her

even though he was working full time, he'd be at my house for weeks at a time, and not pay for anything towards food/gas/elec etc.
Me

money moneys

money problems

i mean

sorry

or he was just tight
Her

I ended it when one day i ran out of electric, and i had no moneeey, and i was crying panicing and he said to me

"I can give you a tenner, but you'll have to give me it back tomorrow"
Me

fuck him

cunt
Her

Yeaaah. I ended it that day.
Me

Well, for me, money is a very subjective thing

what i mean by that

is that i honestly just dont care about it
Her

I wish I couldn't care about it

Hard when you have a child, I guess
Me

I some times I have tons, some times I have not much, but always enough,

I always shre though

share what I have
Her

Well you never offered me a drink

hahah! i'm kidding. I was only drinking water anyway.
Me

I think we did have a convo about a drink

be your cuz was in rush to get movinng if I remember
Her

Yeah, he didn't want to lose that girl he was trying to get with, haha!
Me

but maybe I could of been more attentive
Her

I think my glass of water was full anyway
Me

I was a little drunk my self, but i did notice that we kind of connected a bit

.

Well

I am looking forward to right this wrong
Her

Yeah, I think we got on well"
Me

and buy you a drink
Her

Haha okay!

Me

but you have to buy me one back though

hahahahahah
Her

That's fine
Me

just kidding

really

bad joke

x
Her

Hahaha I don't mind!
me

actually its funny

in x COUNTRY and X COUNTRY

the culture is women pay for nothing
her

...I think I shall move there.
Me

hahahah

it UK allot of people/guys can be a bit awkward

I remember

I have this one friend

who is kind super rich

but not great at dating

whatever

anyway
Her

aww i have a friend like that too!
Me

Though an old girlfriend of mine I set him up on a date with a really nice lass

like they got on the whole thing

then he made a fuss about picking up the bill

i mean

ffs buddy
her

Ohhh
Me

i know a joke, point is

its the Man job

to provide,

in the end
Her

Admittedly, I do like a guy buying me things. Hahaha.

as long as I get to return the favour in another way.
Me

Well we all like presents
Her
Me

and it will soon be Christmas
Her

My sons birthday soon too
Me

why sad?
Her

lots of money
Me

Princess, he is two. Doesnt have to be some big affair. I have the same issue's with my sisters. if its a kid b-day party
Me

I've bought most of the things i wanted to though
me

they are hiring bouncy castles
Her

brb a quick second, sweetheart. Gotta bath JJ xx
Me

catering

its a joke

OTT

ok honey, i will go back to work

in a bit.
hER

Back
Me

me to

had a bath my self

one of my boys made an silly error by giving out the same account to 2 different guys. got me annoyed as it makes us look dumb dumb dumb,

was so annoyed, so after I moaned at him, just went to distress in the bath. lol
Her

Oh dear
Me

its basicly like some one giving some ones gaming profile to anther guy by mistake and then they come in

and mess up the stats

well ok
Her

D: eep. that's badd.

Ne

it is very bad

lost 2 weeks now

oh well

c'est la vie

x

is HER SON in bed now
Her

Yeah, he's sleeping
Me

nice

Dont worry

I really punished the guy for this error

lol
Her

oh, how?
Me

by explaining to him what an total retard thing it was to to and how this should not of happened with the systems in place.
her
Me

anyway, we revied the system
Her

Good!
Me

reviewed the system

seems as though was just an error as we using new data base from 6 weeks back

and there was some cross overs

bla bla

sorry

boring

it shoudl got me soo mad
Her

It's fine dw about it you can vent to me
Me

you too kind.

although looking forward to vent in person x
Her

are you asking me out?
Me

kind of, I am all about seeing you again, felt like we got cut short last time
Her

Yeah stupid x (HER FRIEND)
Me

and we seemed to vibe well so I want to continue.

stupid me as well, I could of easly said, I will come with you

etc

but I had to look after my lot

and get back to my crazy little sister

who almost caused a fight at the end of the night

lol

anyway4
Her

oh dear!
Me

it wasnt her falut

werll

well

some idiot guy said something to her boyfriend

we all got over it

like just some , like, whatever, type person

you know

move on
Her

yeah
Me

but she decided to be really vocal about it

flying the flag of injustice or whatever

really gving it to these guys
Her

hahaha

Me

basicly 3/4 proper X TOWN criminal chav guys

had to drag her away and defuse on there side,

I just explained to her after that she cant go off like that

theres always gonna be people like that where we are

its normal, they will always we the same way

she can not go off like that cos its not fair on her group

like puts people in not great situation

like I want to fight 3 oafs

you know

get marks on my pretty facre

lol

As for our date, how does not this week, but next sound? x
Her

hmm i don't knowww

i'll have to let you know if i can get a babysitter
ME

ok, so lets talk about it close to time.

closer

but I want us try and get to know each other as like I said, totally felt a good connection when I met you. Anyway

I will go back to work and my things for now.

Bye for now x

but I really do want to take you on that date x

(btw, I am rubbish at online chat with people I dont know that well)

___________END______________


NO REPLY SINCE, JUST LEFT IT FOR NOW. What do I do????

With the next girl, a couple of light texts and set up a date. It's great that you are getting back into the game and this FB convo will help you regain your general skills with conversation w/ women so it's all good. Do what you were going to do, call or text her in a few days w/ a good vibe. Scrap the online chatting esp. since u said u don't like doing it very much. If a girl asks for your FB just say 'i quit fb it was not a good use of my time'.

Tips:

Too much texting- It seems obvious part of the way down that you are infatuated/interested (way too early). The texting should be complimentary to "meeting up" in person.

Too much info- You go into painstaking detail regarding everything. You end up flooding the convo (thus making you look beta and needy) and she's forced to play along. The key to a good text game is getting HER to talk.

Your DHV was a little reckless - you had a few decent lines about "having space to create your own reality" which I thought were great starters to dig a little deeper into her personality, but she seemed more concerned about your kid (which you can't really control).

Then she bawked on the "date" request. Remember, when you interact with anybody, the most important thing to observe are their "actions." She can be ultra nice, but its not real until she's actually trying to see you again.

I think you escalated too much for a text-interaction and she started to feel a bit uncomfortable. Plus, when she asks if you are asking for a date, don't say "kind of." If you're going to commit, you gotta commit man.

If she hasn't responded or anything by now, I'd say give it one more nudge specifically asking to hang out or just scrap it all because you'll be wasting your time as she continues to tell you she's busy. Waste of your time.

@ Oceanx + Group

Thanks man. With the next girl??? There will never be a next girl. I want this one. lol. Totally had a bit of oneittis after meeting her, although its passing with every hour. Yes my convo skill's needs work, i think there are all there, just buried away and dusty as everything but I want to fix my mid game chat and at the same time aviod where possible, I guess the idea is to really connect with them when you met, really get into there head, have a good 20 mins (at least) with them, But even with all that, stupid chat can ruin my good work I did when I actually met her (or others).

I do hear what your saying about online chat. If Girls ask for my facebook, can I just say "I dont give to strangers, if I get to know you and your a very girl I will add you, but for now lets just focus on me and you?" What you think, something like this. I dont want to lie and say I dont have, and I am man enough to say, no, your not having my facebook yet. I dunno whats your view?

Well what I am gonna do now with the situation is get some of good looking high value friends to post on my FB, stuff like, come down to London dude, (they ask me on chat so I will just tell my bro to post on wall or something, i can tell him why, its cool, bros. Also I was gonna make the back ground of my facebook page my new company logo so like she will see some actively, then I just call her on Thursday and just been in player mood and make some jokes if about her not replying her just completely ignore it when I talk to her.


@Riri + Group,

Yes mate, it was painful readiing back last night when I was editing out the names and ID info. I feel a little sorry for her, I am not making this easy. But totally now I just need to say fuck all. She is props half expecting me to FB her, (btw way, these are Facebook messages not SMS) but I wont, I will just retreat and try and create some activity on my FB wall as stated previously.

I was not making any conscious DHV at all, (i guess thats where the problem was) totally just rambling rubbish . And yes, saying Kind of was a little weak, I shoudl of been like. Yes.

I dont want to give her anther nudge on facebook, (I am not saying I wont if its the best thing) but I tfeel I have to just not saying anything, and just call her, if I can get her on voice and shes not busy I can do reasonable work i think.....i think. Anyway, I will call her later in week.

up untill this point she has not read or replied my last comments. Athough as I write this I care less and less.......

Well it good form I will come back and provide updates on this situation as it developer's.

But I am gonna fight this one. not letting go easy, IF I dont get, FINE, but I am not walking away with my head down. fuck that and I know that deep down I can, we did connect, allot, all in the eyes, but then I had to go fuck it up on FB CHAT...

I am so retard.

Your confidence is waning and I can tell. Remember to look at all of this as one big learning experience because this happens ALL THE TIME. You could have impeccable "FB Chat" game, but sometimes luck and timing don't work out for you.

Just focus less on trying to connect digitally, and more on meeting in person. If your main selling points are highlighted during a date, make the date happen and give yourself the best chance to succeed.

For messaging practice, you can do it with anyone. You can message as many girls as you want just to get a feel for how to find a balance between being intriguing and alpha with words.

The reason I say give her a nudge (meaning, send her a message), is that it expedites the process of knowing how she feels about you. If she says shes busy or continues to back off, you know exactly what to do: say fuck it and move on. If you continue to skirt around the result it'll just be more painful for you. So I say get that shit out of the way and move on if you need to.

Exactly. The less you say the more you get laid. No need to go into a life story when you meet a girl if you are in the game for volume. You appear to be in the game to find that one girl but again, reveal too much or reveal the wrong thing for any particular girl and she can immediately friendzone you.
Just forget FB man. Whatever reason you give them is fine.

I agree witih Riri: Drop all the digital stuff and just set up a date ASAP. If she doesn't agree, fine, move on to the next girl.

Meet/text/date/sex. Keep that linear progression in your mind at all times.

@ RiRi & OceanX

True, my confidence was waning, although I am just rebuilding it from the bottom again, but yes, this "incident" knocked me a bit. I guess deep down I have a sense of arrogance and it simply horrify's me on an inner level that she wouldn't be worshiping me and grateful for the fact that I like her. Its pretty messed up. I just fell in love with the idea of having a girlfriend again. You see, I am 32, I come back to my home town after 9 years away, Overall spent 3 years in Moscow 24 to 27 and the rest of my time in Brazil, the time in Moscow I can honestly say hand on heart I had a 18 months of been a pure player. I mean like I reached god status for a while, money was ok (not a key issue I find when it comes to game), I had an HB 9, she was just a hot babe like a model or something, she was pure sex, every man, every man wanted to fuck her. She was awesome and she empowered me allot. i was a totall cunt with her allot, out late ,partying, generaly not giving a fuck, but we also could go out together and just have a ball, we a strong alpha couple, no doubt. I have other little pecks in my life but nothing like that period. Also I was with a soild bunch of bros, and these guys are still bros but of course I moved away, others moved away, and people get married etc and all that. Brazil, it was good, up and down, again, it all came down to how I felt, I spent allot of my life so far living as a slave to my own emotions and warped mind. also the last 10 years have been like this Girlfriend 1 year to 2 years single 1 to 2 years, and so on and so on. My last girlfriend was a very nice girl, a good human you know, she helped my allot with my issues and really went out of her way to heal me, and it worked for the most part In return I gave her the sex of her life, I mean, really took care of her. Like, I am very good at it with girlfriends, but drunk on a Saturday after 12 drinks.................anyway, I digress.

I will use more alpha words etc and fuck off the online thing. I mean mate, really, I am all about talking, txting a little bit if I have to, but connecting on FACEBOOK after meeting (unless already fucked) honestly does not serve me, I always alwways alwasy say some stupid shit, Always, its a joke. I guess in an abstract and semi-sub subconscious (although I dont think it was this on this case, this one was plain old desperation) way I do it on purpose, to test them, to watch them loose interest, which that proves a point they are just totally open to manipulation on any side, which then depressed me and makes me think whats the point. Some many people just on a very low way of thinking without any real depth, backbone, or even connection with there own selfs, people are so disconnected from the own inner selfs. When I have met some one who isnt, (generally after a year of been single I basicly make them my girl friend, move them in to where ever I am living and we have a very intense and deep relationship until I have exstuated it and her and I am bored. Its like after a year you notice all the hottys and you just start going wild in your mind, really wanting to fuck something else.


Well I am back in my home town now, i was living with my sister for last 12 months, (just living in my inner shall smoking weed and putting work shit together, Although I haev no friends my own age here, all my own friends from school have either moved away or the ones that are here married and on totally different wave lengths, so my friends are my cusions and his crew and my little sisters and there crews (all are alpha leaders) But I guess (well I know) I use that has a spring board and move forward, done it before. (bit of an old hand but as you can see clearly lost my way a bit last period of time)
Well I got a place 2 months ago so of course now I have a locale I need a bird, its been 8 months, and that was a shit one night stand, one of my sisters friends (pre-selection bla bla, but I was so drunk, she pulled me, when she took me to bed, i started to do my work, then I need a piss, went to the loo, had a wee, and lost the power and could not get it going again as was blind drunk so I just slobbered in her ear "it will do it in morning" and then died. She then just left when I was asleep so I never got the morning session, which after a drunk one night side, at least for me, is the better one. So in 13/14 months, that it, that one thing, oh, and one other bird 13 months ago, some bird not great looking pulled in london, but yea, 13 months thats it. So i am crazy man, fucking crazy, and now that I have a place and a will to live again I just got need to sort this.

Am i looking for the one bird,a girlfriend, yes and no, i think i owe it to myself to master this shit again (like i did before when was a little younger) and the after I have dated (fucked a few) and i am back on the PUA vibe then I can make choice. But its not right to settle with a girl if its means having to settle with myself. I cant look at myself in the mirror if I did that to my self. I have to boss this shit, and ok, once I am on the other side again, i am sure I will be like, ok, whatever, the beat goes on, but it would be a dis service to my self to not put myself on the other side. I believe you only fail when you give up trying. As long as you stay focused, even if you fall a million times, the fact that get back up and try again makes you a winner! And unless there is some wrong with your mind, but with that kind of determination you will get want you need, no issue.

You want to know something really fucked up, if I see a really beautiful 9/10 (like skinny model type thing that allot of guys like) I can be like what ever, talk with them, have a laugh natually DHV and I dont know, just easy, but then skinny models dont interest me, its like, not much sex appeal, you know, I think they can just tell I dont care or something but like they can actually tell there is no sexual attraction from my side, I am talking generally here of course and drawing on my personal history and experience, and I have many experiences where they was the one to pull me, (because I was pulling away, but like really pulling away, not like pulling away to do the whole game thing). Anyway, put me with a 5/6/7/8 who is a little chubby (what I like, liek really really like) just some average cute-ish bitch I went to school with and mate, I am shit, oh god, I am shit, I am wanting to fuck them so much, cute little curves, little plain face, whole thing. I guess what I am saying is I have found it much easier with the real hot ones than the average cute ones (that I love so much)..... Ok I dont want to go over the top here, maybe I am going a little OTT, its not like I can get any HB 9 or anything, at all, I am just saying props would find it easier then dealing with some stupid 6/7 bitch who is going though a host of inner personal issues and is watching every thing I say and do to see if it conforms to the norm of that city/country/local community or whatever.


Anyway back to the subject matter at hand, so today I saw that she saw my message at 17:00, ok, and then at 20:47 she post on her facebook

"It's so pathetic how desperate some guys are"

20 geeks guys liked it, all guys I think, let me check, ok 18 guys (and 2 girls). To be honest though, i think this is a bitch who talk to many guys or something, I dont think it was me that inspired that post, but of course who knows, props a few guys asked her out today (she added a few on her FB from the weekend, thats why wanted to close her early, again, no excuse for my idiot behavior, i fucked up). So maybe with me asking her out and no doubt a few others she just made the post. In any case, I have great news every one.

I official dont give a fuck. Its official. Which makes me mad at my self for even putting my self and heart though all of that for 24/48 hours or something, it slike I need to get a grip.

Well, I will call her, but I dont want to. All I want to do is delete her and never speak to her again, fucking whore!!!!! But I will call her, and I will just boss the bitch about on the phone if needs be and correct her, i knew there was a daugour with this girl from the beginning as she as allot of male geek freak worshipers (she is pro gamer) that I must not, not fall her to her world because as soon as I do she has controled. The moment I gave her my FB on SMS I put the first step in her stupid day online world, then when I stated chating and just having honest open conversation with her I took 2nd step.

GAME OVER. fuck me, it was so obvious, I already knew this shit. I already fucking knew. But still I WAS desperate, i was even plaining our futures together in my mind for a few hours that sunday night so I totally fucked it when we spoke on the Monday.

Anyway, I will call her, but honestly, I dont even know that I want to speak to her untill next week now, or shoudl I say try and speak to her, who knows, maybe she wont answer. but guys, we did connect when we met, like it was real. Not a pull/a close/ a connection. ANYWAY.


The good thing is RiRi Is there is no pain anymore. That as gone.

@ oceanx

Totally in agreement

Meet/text/date/sex keep that in mind, it will be the code Meet/text/date/sex, Meet/text/date/sex, ok I can do it. but still weak on txting but I will spend time and time learning, I have been practicing on Tinder, OMG, so ridiculous conversations on there to begin with, but I am getitng better. But for sure, fuck all the digal stuff, I will begin taking girls when I see them,

In the supermarket, in the bar, on the street, on the train, the bus i will do it, although as I write this words I feel the anxiety enter me, i am not cured. But I just need to rebuild slowly I guess one building block at a time.

Well I will let you know what news comes along, sorry for this been so long message but I have allot inside and I guess I need to let it out some how.


Thank you for listing, really, i am feeling less alone. Although at the same time I feel bad like I am using you guys for my own benefit not really offering anything in return. I am been just like a bitch who smiles and agrees until she gets want she wants and then she fucks off, and I hate that because I dont want to be that person.

Conflicted at time's, I am.

Peaces

Lot's of emotion there.

I would just be conscious of being clear with your intentions/goals. You seem to be all over the place at the moment in terms of A. Moments of clarity and B. Moments where you misread the clarity.

Its clear that, like anybody, we get bored. Super model, Wagyu Beef, blowjobs...it all gets old eventually. Unless you keep things fresh and you learn how to cultivate a relationship. You seem to lose focus when you are feeling "boss" as you say, and the women leave you (or you push them away) even though they made a genuine effort to help you through your issues. These are some things you need to hash out as well.

Getting back into the "game" might be more or less a way for you to become clear on what (who) you want, rather than just a platform so you can get laid again. I support getting laid, unless you are the type of person who can't handle casual relationships etc. Because there are many people like that who feel like they need to hide behind a player persona. Some people pull it off, some don't. But it still serves a very important purpose.

In terms of calling her: NO. If you don't give a fuck, why would you call? Can you answer that question?

If she's mindlessly flirting with dudes then posting on FB that guys are desperate, she has a major personality flaw. Her love for attention has manifested this endless stable of obsessed men, and you are a statistic. The good news is: Thank fuck you figured it out.

Now be the real "boss" and let it go. If she comes back trying to talk etc., just respond calmly that you have obligations in life and you're busy. She can do the math that she isn't getting attention (and that's a win for you).

And finally:

"I am been just like a bitch who smiles and agrees until she gets want she wants and then she fucks off, and I hate that because I dont want to be that person.

Conflicted at time's, I am."

You understand this on a very deep level. I think the problem isn't that you are "conflicted", its that you ignore the early signs because you have hope. You are probably very positive and rationalize some iffy behavior. Thus, you kind of walk yourself into a bad situation, but with a heart full of positivity.

The next step will be for you to proactively identify the BS going on, and for you to actually act on it. Gone are the days of wandering mindlessly into a bad situation (that is recurring for you), here are the days where you squash problems before they even begin to affect YOU.

This process is not only great for you, but helps you weed (pun intended) out crazy women, and hopefully, creating a system where you meet women that are worth your time.

I think it is important to first get very, very clear on what you want out of relationships etc: Sit back, take some time and envision what your perfect lifestyle would be when it comes to women: Is it having that loyal hot girlfriend who is always there for you, or is it having an exciting life of sexual variety with a bunch of different cool girls. That's the first step. Once you get there, it will be much easier for you to take control of things and put yourself in situations where you can move the ball forward to what you want.

Whichever of the two or other options you prefer however, you are going to need to approach girls to get there, so get out and practice!