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PostPosted: Fri Jan 25, 2008 10:08 pm 
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I'm tired of holding it all back. I'm tired of being a fucking AFC. I'm tired of crafting my mannered posts that still get me nowhere because I'm to afraid to execute the game in real life and establish my dominance.

I need some serious help from you guys.

I know a lot of the game in and out, but I'm getting nowhere because I'm such a shy person. I know the solution to most problems, but again, it doesn't do me any good because I'm too shy to step out of my AFC zone and be an alpha male. You have no idea how it's really starting to piss me off.

I sit there in school, DAY after DAY, staring at a fucking wall unless I'm around my friends or people I know. When I speak around the people I don't know, I speak like a fucking five year old because I'm to shy to speak up.

I know what I have to do thanks to the game, but I just can't do it because my shyness is holding me back.

There's the background, now here's my biggest problem / DLV.

I don't know anybody on the bus I ride. I simply sit there, by myself, in the same fucking seat day after day, staring at the front or outside the window. I sit in the same seat every day and don't make a single noise. I try to be non-existent so people will leave me the fuck alone.

Lately, this is not the case. I get these annoying fucking middle school girls (probably grade 7/8 ), who annoy the shit out of me every day and don't say anything worthwhile. Again, because of my shyness, they've taken the advantage of holding more "social power" than me and do such annoying things.

They poke fun at the fact one of my friends came over on the bus one day and now make fun of the fact and call us "gay lovers" etc.

They touch me, they make fun of me, they put empty candy wrappers on my head, and it's SO FUCKING ANNOYING.

I need some serious help, this is destroying my fucking life and it keeps getting worse and worse on not only the bus ride, but my life as well.

Please give me some advice on how to handle this already DLV'ing myself situation, and social shyness in general. I could really use some help or some lines to take care of this situation.

This is destroying my fucking life, and I know it is, but I'm to shy to do ANYTHING about it.


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lol ironic that your name is pua_god and...ya lol nvm.
SO what i would suggest is picking up Rules of the Game. I recomend it to a lot of guys trying to break they're AA, and I think you could benefit from it. Its by Niel Strouss (or however you spell his last name) aka Style.
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Dude, seriously im struggling thru the same stuff, but you have to step out, Im a christian and I live for the "Fear of God" that keeps me grounded but your fear comes from insecurity and thats not what god made a man to be, Insecurity, is not being comfortable with the way god made ya.. your a man.. show them hoes whats up

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lol ironic that your name is pua_god and...ya lol nvm.
SO what i would suggest is picking up Rules of the Game. I recomend it to a lot of guys trying to break they're AA, and I think you could benefit from it. Its by Niel Strouss (or however you spell his last name) aka Style.
Good Luck.
very ironic :?


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i feel you man. i deal with the same shit on a day to day basis... this is your problem " I try to be non-existent so people will leave me the fuck alone. " fuck that mentality. Be friendly, be outgoing, be interesting... BE CONFIDENT...bottom line is that you CAN'T GIVE A FUCK, thats how you should be thinking towards girls... they are not on your level... fucking peons...as far as these little kids..... you need to stomp on thier damn throats...till they show you respect... demand respect

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Dude... sounds like you need some confidence...
start w/ something simple

go up to some random hb you see and just ask for the time

"Hey, do you have the time?"....... Do it with a smile and with confident body manner... seriously, there should be no fear of rejection because your not trying to pick up this girl, you're asking her for the time... then you thank her, and walk away...

this should prove to you that you can talk to other ppl... then move onto other stuff....

on the bus start up some smalltalk... "hey, did you catch the game last night, it was brutal... i thought they had the win, but.... blah blah blah..."

you have to be able to do this stuff before you can think about successfully closing a girl without straight luck


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This is weird because I was exactly like you to a T. Here is my advice first change your whole outfi and go to like a mall or social place(by yourself) outside of where you would usually go mainly because if you see ppl u kno it will remind you of your shyness. Then start approacing ppl you dont know with an attitude that if i mess up i will never see them again and dont even think of the next day at school live for the moment practice all that stuff you have stored in your head. As for school slowly change your habits for example start answering questions walk with ur head up everything but u is out of focus you wont worry and slowly you will begin to change.
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[quote="delta4ce"]Dude... sounds like you need some confidence...
start w/ something simple

go up to some random hb you see and just ask for the time

"Hey, do you have the time?"....... Do it with a smile and with confident body manner... seriously, there should be no fear of rejection because your not trying to pick up this girl, you're asking her for the time... then you thank her, and walk away...

this should prove to you that you can talk to other ppl... then move onto other stuff....

on the bus start up some smalltalk... "hey, did you catch the game last night, it was brutal... i thought they had the win, but.... blah blah blah..."

you have to be able to do this stuff before you can think about successfully closing a girl without straight luck[/quote]

seriously this is the best advice
talk to random people, and just say little things
"hey did you catch the ball game last night?"
"have you seen that new movie, is it any good?"
"which way is main street?"
say stuff like this, and say it enough so you even get rejected a few times too, because lets face it, not everyone is gonna help you
once you have a good number of responses and rejections, you'll get over your AA
and once you get over your AA you can start using openers, FTCs routines, and all the good stuff

its weird that im writing this because im still scared shitless with AA
if possible find a wing


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join a team, get into shape and become the most confident mother fucker who has ever walked the earth. It's that easy!

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This is all great advice and I haven't ridden a school bus in years but this is how I suggest you handle those girls. Get yourself an ipod and download some cool bands. Always walk on that bus with a tall frame, head up, like you belong there - because you do. When those girls poke or prod you, just say things like "hey, if you wanna ask me out, ask me out already, no need to be so grabby." or say things loudly like "Look!, I told you, I can't walk you home today, maybe next week aiight!" Always make it sound like they are begging for your attention. Then go back to listening to your tunes. Since it sounds like you're stuck with these people on the bus, after a few days or so, say - "look, seriously, have you guys heard this band, [insert cool band name here]." First downplay the teasing and then show you are the bigger person by talking about interesting things. Always stay calm no matter what they say and they'll see their shit doesn't get to you. Instead you may end up getting some social proof on the bus because you neutralized them and maybe even got them to befriend you.

Finally man, keep in mind that you control your reality. No one else can make you say or do anything. Believe it. I've said elsewhere around here that you have to have a strong positive frame of mind. This means that no one in that school or bus can get to you. You control you. It takes time though man. Take it day by day. Start wearing cool stuff that make you feel confident in any situation. Don't worry about what anyone else says if you find some cool rings to wear or a sweet leather bracelet. None of the a-hole comments matter and girls will notice your subtle change in looks. As some one else here said, join a team or a club to meet new people, make friends, and increase your social value. Never concern yourself with what other people think. You control you. Your world is how you choose to see it. Hope that helps a little bro.


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School hey:

"The best years of your life."

You heard that shit before, I'm sure? We all have.

No one bothers mention the flip side of the coin. The side where the kid doesn't fit in because he's intelligent yet shy, and as a result becomes the target of bullying. Ring a bell?

I'm not going to lie to you. You're in a shit place right now. Kids don't buy into overnight re-invention. It's different when you've never met someone before. They don't know who you are so you can pretend to be who you want to be.

You're going to have to do something drastic to make those littles bitches stop harassing you. On the flip side, they could laugh it off and get worse.

It's a catch 22 situation.

Someone recommended reading the 'Rules of the Game'. I'd agree with that. It gives you objectives to pursue each day. If you buy it, MAKE SURE you do them.

Conclusion
Hmm, it is difficult to reinvent yourself at school, but not impossible.


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True, you can't make changes overnight and you'll never be able to control people - but by changing the way you react to people, you will begin to shape the way they behave toward you. Give it a try. You may not see results in 3 days, but you might after 3 months.


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"just get in the I just dont give a fuck" about anything mindset

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Lately, this is not the case. I get these annoying fucking middle school girls (probably grade 7/8 ), who annoy the shit out of me every day and don't say anything worthwhile. Again, because of my shyness, they've taken the advantage of holding more "social power" than me and do such annoying things.
The solution is pretty simple. And after reading the first part of your post, I'm pretty sure you already know the answer: DHV yourself, DLV them. Fortunately, that won't be too difficult as they're just throwing ammo at you that you can throw right back.
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They poke fun at the fact one of my friends came over on the bus one day and now make fun of the fact and call us "gay lovers" etc.
With things like this, it's important not to get offended or upset. Instead, try playing up to it. Try something like 'NAh, we broke up last week, he just couldn't keep up with me.' Chances are, they'll be thrown by something like this, and YOU'LL be the one in control of the situation.

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They touch me, they make fun of me, they put empty candy wrappers on my head, and it's SO FUCKING ANNOYING.
They're not just handing you ammo, they're giving you guns to fire it from too! Next time they touch you, pull back, as if you're repulsed. Look at them and use the old faithful: 'this shit isn't for free!' When they put wrappers in your hair, throw them back at them and say 'I'm not a walking trashcan!' But keep it playful, smile when you say it. If you play it right, you can turn your bus journeys into a game with these girls, rather than torture. They'll likely be pretty impressed that you can speak up for yourself, poke fun at yourself, and give as much as you receive, taunt-wise.


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I know the situation well.

Unfortunately there is only one solution to social shyness. And thats being social.

Try and think, (this applies to friends. girls your seeing. People who fuck with you etc) that EVERY experience and EVERY person you meet and interact with are a practice.

Thats right. A practice for something better that coming along. The girl you really like? You like her, but shes practice for THE ONE. That friend of yours that gets shitty cos you dont "chill out with him enough", he's a practice for better friends.

If you keep this mentality with everyone (its hard to start with), it'll be alot easier (obv still nerve-wracking) to socialise. Then start trying to socialise. Do what people say around here, ask for the time or some other small talk. Or if you want to jump in at the deep end and have a full blown conversation, do it. It'll be hard the first few times - but REMEMBER:

No matter how important this person is. Pretty. Or close to you. or watever, they are a practice for better things.

It doesnt matter if you blush. Sweat. Tremble. Stumble over your words. Start speaking another language (lol). Because this is a PRACTICE for future things.

Drive that mentality into your head until it sticks; it works big time.

Hope that helps buddy.


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