Here in the US, we are constantly told that college is going to be that time when guys get laid the most and have girls throwing themselves at them. I have found this to be false from my experiences of sarging (a lot).

What I have started to notice is that even though a lot of big universities have many attractive girls, there is tons of pre-selection bias going on. It seems like the guys who are getting these girls are either in a huge fraternity or playing a sport (usually football or basketball).

Now I have managed to do alright for myself, just got laid yesterday night but slowly I am starting to notice something. For me, certain kinds of girls are off limits, mainly sorority girls. Now the issue I have here is that majority of the attractive girls at my university are in sororities.

I talked to some of my friends that graduated and guys who graduated and have decent jobs, they are also living in big cities.

They tell me that in college, it is easier to land average looking girls but impossible to land hot girls. In real life it is easier to land hot girls than it is in college.

Since a lot of you are older (I just turned 21 in October). Share your thoughts on this.

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I never been to college but in big office environments etc pre-selection rules, if you don't have social proof you're pretty much fucked.

I worked in an office with lots of other young people as an AFC, was always used to driving jobs, mainly trucks, so being thrown into that environment I didn't handle it the best. I could go out on weekends and pick up and had a FWB at the time, but picking up in the office forget it, all pre-selection.

These sought of environments its win or lose, if you got social proof you'll laid left and right, if you dont you're stuck with the uglies.

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So you're basically one month older than me, not a big age difference but straight to the point.
I graduated from university around 5 months ago. Yes, university life was amazing and I had the time of my life.
But trust me, now that I started work it's even better and better.

You have your REAL own life. You're independent.
I'm experiencing the real life now and it's amazing, with tons of more girls than university life.

And true, it is over-rated.

I think that goes both ways Paramount. What you are constantly told about guys getting laid in college is not necessarily the better looking women. And there's not as much laying going on as you think. Certainly social proof and having a lot of cool friends is going to help any guy.

But, isn't there always a chance a female in college is by herself, doesn't really have many friends, doesn't belong to any clubs, as you probably don't either? A female hermit? One that's cute, but shy, and slightly odd?

The reality is that real life in a big city can be much tougher than college b/c women realize they have an unlimited amount of options. In college, a lot of the mindset is they are limited to that college. I'm 34 and been living it 13 years and did college. If you never made a go of it in college, you are going to struggle in real life. Most women go through a phase from about 23-40 where they don't know what they want. Unless they are 100% certain the guy in front of them is the one for them, then 100% of their attention won't be on him, ever. That's for long term. Then you are relegated to just trying to get random good lays and hope something sticks. Well the caliber of woman you are always harping on, a hot skinny blond, is going to have virtually no interest in you from the first word you speak. I know that only b/c you are very odd, obsessive, creepy, and have no confidence and you seem to like making other peoples life miserable in an indirect way. I can see that woman don't like you and I have no idea your background, status, physical appearance, etc.

But there's hope. Forget the skinny blondes. Get yourself a big girl no one wants. I think you are probably a virgin just by how you post. If you got laid yesterday you wouldn't be on this forum all day today which I'm sure you will be. You wouldn't have asked this question. You'd be happy, not trolling. You're best chance as a weird guy is to start with nasty ugly fat pussy, and try to graduate up as you get better. You will probably peak at about the 5ish range so start with a 2, then get a 3, and maybe some day you'll have skills and confidence to get up to a 6.

You might have been attributing your failure to something else (social proof) when the facts point to some things that are within your control-- things that you can change and improve on.

I've got selfies of two Asian forum trolls. Let's look at their body language (something most of us here can control) and dressing style (another factor that we can control). And then you decide which dude gets laid a lot in a college environment-- social proof or no social proof.

The dude on the left has stooped shoulders. His left hand is inserted in his pocket. His sleeves need some ironing and covers his cock area. Overall, he projects a smiling vibe asking for sympathy and seems to suck the fun and life out of people.

The other dude on the right has his chest puffed out and shoulders straight at attention, frames his cock area with his left hand and his red sleeves is well ironed. Overall, he projects a smiling naughty vibe that says, "I hope the sales lady that I've banged inside the dressing room will regain her consciousness soon."

You might be looking at big things that seem to be beyond your control and yet there are easy, simple things that you can immediately fix which will help get you laid and solve most of your dating problems for real.

The pictures btw are in the public domain, are not copyrighted, and are used for non-commercial discussion purposes.

Edit: There seems to be a problem with the file attachment feature. If anyone is interested in the picture just send me an email at hellhound.rodriguez@gmail.com and I'll send the pix.

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not a virgin, just fed up with college and more so than the reputation it gets as being a paradise

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You're not getting laid, therefore college is not an easy place to get laid.

Dude, DO SOMETHING. you're right, guys who get laid get involved with extracurriculars, including sports and greek life. But some of the best house parties I've ever been to, or helped organize, were just run by guys trying to make a few bucks. You want social proof? Find three friends, get a house, throw raging parties. There's your social proof, its the college equivalent to being the owner/manager of a nightclub. Think its expensive? Throw a good party and you're paying your rent with the profits.

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These hos ain't loyal

and another terrible post

Am I getting laid every day? No!

Have I gotten laid?

YES

Problem?

College is overhyped by media, most guys here are not living the college experience.

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It's easy to get laid in college.. it's even easier with online dating and in "real life" once you have a career. Once you get to late 20s/early 30s, it is even easier. I am only 31, but I suspect, if I am not married etc. by mid-late 30s, it gets even EASIER. haha

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Wrong again: YOU are not getting laid as much as you expected. It's not the environment, it's YOU.

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I'm not even going to debate whether you're right or wrong about college, Paramount. What's the point?

What I will say though, is why do you care? What is this post about? Why have you come on here to bitch about college not being great? Ok, so say college isn't as good as it's made out in the media - so what? What are you trying to achieve? Are you just letting us know that it's not as great as you were expecting? Do you want us to do something about it or are you just warning us off?

You see, things in life aren't always as you want or imagine them to be. The difference between cool people who get women and succeed in life and people who don't get women and live average or poor lives, is that the cool people don't sit and mope, they solve the problem one way or another. They either work hard to beat the problem, or they simply don't waste their time with the problem and do something else instead. You could be figuring out a way to improve your college game, or you could be figuring a way to get out of the college sphere and meet girls in the "real world". But instead, your sitting on a computer telling people who you don't even know how hard it is at your college and moaning about your situation.

Successful people are successful (both with women and in life generally) because they either 1) are extremely dedicated and resilient, and work extremely hard to defeat any object they come up against, or 2) play to their strengths and simply discard anything which they aren't good at and which may hinder them. The most successful people know when to switch between the two.

Just what exactly are you trying to achieve with this post? Don't answer straight away, sit back and really think what you are adding to the forum, how you are helping others, how you are helping yourself, with this post. Is it adding anything POSITIVE to anyone? Or is it a purely negative post? If you were saying "look guys, college can be harder than you think, so try some of these tips..... etc." then there's a positive there. But you're not. You're simply saying it's harder than you thought it was and having a little moan about it all. That's the attitude you need to change if you're going to succeed. You may think you've come a long way from when you had your race issues in your earlier days, but this sort of thing shows that your inner mentality is still not where it should be. You can say that you're just trying to provoke discussion about college game, but you're not. And if you're honest with yourself, you'll know you're not. You've got this negative impression of college game in your head, and you're now looking for other people to come along and wollow in your misery with you.

Don't constantly focus on negatives. Cut them out of your life. College isn't as great as you thought it was going to be? Well not many things in life will be. You can either spend the rest of your life moaning about them, or do something else. Up to you! Do something about it, or let it go. And properly let it go. Don't just say you've let it go and then have a chip on your shoulder about it anyway.

I understand the point you do, and I don't think it's fair for guys who for example don't play football or any other sport, it just doesn't feels fair isn't it? Well, the thing is that, you have to show the girls that you got the ability to be part of something, to be part of a cool group that they woud like to be part of, in my personal opinion. Plus, the captain of the football team comes more very pre-selected have you noticed? Why? He's the leader of the men, he's most likely strong, alpha and it's likely the best and protector of his group. Many of the qualities women seek in a male. That's something similar happen in fraternities.

College was a fuckfest. I got in a relationship for most of it though but I had a lot of women who wanted my dick... Stuck with the cream of the crop which turned out to be a nightmare and burned all possible bridges.

7000, I do agree with your post, strongly. In fact I feel like I did come off as a whiner with this thread. Thank you for your advice, it was a reality check which I needed. I still stick to the fact that college is overhyped but you made a lot of good points.

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Paramount21, when you first came on here you started bitching that you couldn't get laid because your brown.

Then you started bitching that you cant fuck blonde girls because you live in the south and blonde girls there are raciest.

Now your bitching about college and not being able to get laid as much as you want and not being able to fuck the hottest girls because your not in a frat and because their "impossible."

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