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PostPosted: Sun Nov 03, 2013 11:44 pm 
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Hey guys,

I really need your help concerning a girl I have recently met. It's ok to have fun every once in a while, but it gets old. This one is really girlfriend material and a keeper :)

Now, we met in a completely neutral context. We were introduced to each other through some friends of my parents because she is currently unemployed and needed job advice. Basically, she was supposed to talk to my father, but he's clueless about this type of stuff, so I took over. I will be honest, I liked her straight from the beginning and really wanted to see her again. Anyway, once week after our initial meeting, I asked her out for a coffee and we met 2 days ago.

We didn't know anything personal about each other, so it was like we were meeting for the first time all over again. Of course, I was careful not to bring up any topics related to her job hunting, as this would have sent me directly to the friend-zone. Another problem is that she most probably met with me for networking purposes. I was aware of that and that I had to turn the tables asap.

It would have been inappropriate to be too "aggressive" from this first meeting though (could be seen as I am taking advantage of the situation - she has to date me to get my help), so I kept things simple.

So, we talked about the usual blabla (how she ended up in this city, what she likes about it, where she sees herself in the future, some shit about becoming more mature with age, about social life, etc). I then pulled out the cube routine and it worked wonders as usual. Fortunately for me, my readings were all correct (this test made me like her even more as I quickly discovered several aspects of her personality, haha). She was very interested, more involved and smiling, and kept asking me for more. I stopped there though as I am keeping the ring routine and the strawberry field routine for the second date, where I will start doing some kino at the same time. The conversation ended with me installing viber on her cellphone, lol. Dunno if it was a good move or not, but she was delighted and cheerful...

For this first date (If you can even call it that), I am not sure that I have managed to build any attraction (probably not). The only real change I saw in her behaviour is that she was initially avoiding eye contact (she is quite shy I must say), but she then started looking directly at me towards the middle of the conversation until the end. I don't know if that counts as an IOI... Guess it simply meant that she felt more comfortable in my presence.

So, I don't know whether I have built comfort or *some* attraction during this first date. I tried sending some signals to make her understand that I see her as a potential gf, but I am not sure if she got it (ie: during the cube game, she said she sees the horse with a saddle on it - when I explained to her what it meant, I added "ouch, I will have to be careful with you" - she looked at me curiously then). To be honest, I was not particularly flirty as I wanted to test the waters and see where I stand. I felt it would have been awkward otherwise.

Anyway, she likes movies, so I told her we should go to the cinema one of these days and she agreed. Overall, things went ok but next meeting will probably be decisive.

I would need some advice on how I could avoid screwing this up. Sure, it would be her loss if she turned me down, but it has been a really long time since I was last genuinely interested in some girl. Man, she is totally my type AND single. It would be a pity to let go such an opportunity.

I am kinda new to this PUA thing and my game is far from good. I am really good at building comfort but my biggest weak point is that I suck at kino and still can't act flirty. I usually start off quite well, but then because of these things, I lose my momemtum and girls lose interest or friendzone me in the end.

My question is how do I proceed? Any concrete advice about the upcoming movie night? How would you do it?
Should I use sexual innuendo? Should I go for micro-escalation until she actually gets it? Given that she is super shy, I am afraid she will close herself up if I am too upfront. I also really need to get rid of this label of "networking acquaintance".
Do you think this is a lost cause because of the context we met? I wonder if I can even make her like me or if I am just an acquaintance to her... I have read all these things about attraction in DiCarlo's books but I really have a hard time implementing them in practice... How do I ignite a spark in her?


Any piece of advice would mean a lot to me.
Many thanks any advance for your help, mates.


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 04, 2013 7:57 pm 
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Got bad news this morning: the chick contacted me this morning on her own initiative, but guess what? It was about work! grrrrr
She started off by thanking me for recommending her some good movies, that she spent almost the whole week-end on the pc and then she continued with her questions.

Dunno if it was a good or bad move, but the same morning, I got 2 free cinema tickets from a friend but which were expiring today. I asked her if she was available to go see the movie I was telling her the other day. Turns out she had other arrangements (the excuse was legitimate as she was telling me about this project of hers) and we didn't go in the end...

I didn't even bother replying to her last message. I am thinking of staying silent until Friday and then ask her out again.

What do you guys think? Is there even hope of turning the tables?
Thanks


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 07, 2013 7:04 pm 
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I would need some advice on how I could avoid screwing this up. Sure, it would be her loss if she turned me down, but it has been a really long time since I was last genuinely interested in some girl. Man, she is totally my type AND single. It would be a pity to let go such an opportunity.
This totally doesn't put a huge amount of pressure on you! In other words instead of doing your best and enjoying a company of a beautiful girl you met, you are putting all your energy into thinking of ways how you can mess it up. Makes no sense to me.

When you get back to her on Friday, make sure you have something interesting to tell her! Enjoy the playful banter, tell her (don't ask) about a movie night you are planing with your friends. She is invited if she behaves. If she doesn't show up tell her about good times you guys had.

Al


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