I notice most of the forum is going to the toilet, too much keyboard Jocking, no practical advise and the blind leading the blind, the veterans don't post or get turn off and leave... So instead of me bitching and complaining i will try to get the forum back to 2013.... Most of you still under the mystery method model of seduction, which is in 2013 is highly ineffective(and it was ineffective back then too). Guy there is a reason Rsd is not doing mystery method, think about that for a second.

Rules: Ask one question and one follow up only after you have follow the advise. And yes the advise may be not what you expect and may frustrate you.

Ex. I texted this girl 5 times, and no response.

Answer. Do not text her anymore till she contacts you back, and work on other girls.

^ see no what you wanted to hear, but right advise.

Rule 2: I may have other people that i trust give advise, if i have no experience in what you are going through. Or i may link you to a post or a video that i BELIEVE, has the answer.

Rule 3: The goal is not to be cool, not to be social, not to be gamy. The main goal is to put your dick in the vagina (even if you are looking for a girlfriend). So all the advise will be tailor towards that goal in mind, but if you are new, i will give you advise towards that goal, but with baby steps.

Rule 4: The goal is to cure the overall problem and no to put a bandage on the symptom.

Rule 5: The haters, name callers etc... Are welcome to pm me, since they will distract from the goal, but they are welcome to participate as long as it addressing the question, and no going into personal attacks.

About me: 20 year veteran, i have done all types of games, but mostly focus on Clubs. It is well documented in the forum, many many guys that i have help, get better, find a women, and most importantly get laid. Some mention it in their lay reports and journals, some do not since they have an ego ( ex. this dude was having a dry spell gave him advise and material went into a fucking rampage, to proud to acknowledge my help, but hey coincidences happen).

P.s. Some material i may have to pm, cause you are not suppose to link other forums stuff. But pms are not allowed unless is a very personal matter, that you do not want public. If i think is bs, i will pm back ask in this post.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cg12lin_E7w[/youtube]

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I can't close anymore. I get interest and attraction but can't bring myself to close them.

Just like to add after that video: Yeah, the Karma/Rep thing these forums used to have was a lot better than just the post count we have now. I got some really good advice back then and learned a lot of good things from those who had "Karma/rep". I believe there were a few vets like puaninja or something like that and AlphaWolf(Not exact). Those were the guys who gave solid, no BS advice on PUA and not self-help. These forums are now specifically self-help and that's how I view them now.

If you can not close them is that you have not shown yourself as a lover but more of a boyfriend and/or you are not turning them all sexually and/or you are not escalating and/or they are not sexually available and/or they lost interest they once had. But your question is to vague can you get a bit more specific maybe and example or something.

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The problem is me. As in me actually going in to close on them. I've got the attraction, interest, isolation and everything down but going in to actually close or bounce for an f-close I just don't do it.

For example: I approached a HB8, used kino, keep her interest high, had her hooked and her interest so high she was brushing her friends off telling them to go away and leave her alone with me. She was leaning in and I had full control to be as cocky as I wanted to be "So, what made you like me and get so interested?". Spoke to her for about 20minutes, she was trying to get me to move to another part of the club with her or close her. I didn't. I just kissed her on the cheek and said I was looking for my friends. Same thing happened with another HB8. Approached, kept interest high, found common interests, escalated, she was expecting a kiss. I didn't kiss her.

Before I had a different frame of mind altogether and closed easily... now i've just lost that mentality. I can't even remember the mentality I had back then for seducing women. I get this a lot too... I'll be in one mentality for a month then another the month after and need to reframe myself which is hard.

"The problem is me. As in me actually going in to close on them. I've got the attraction, interest, isolation and everything down but going in to actually close or bounce for an f-close I just don't do it."

k! got you, and what you face is a very common problem with many different guys...

Everything is going very smooth, you are getting the positive reactions, you are doing good, then, then, then.... You get scare to FUCK IT UP.

You need to remember that to get a girl you need to lose a girl, and closing is never smooth... Pick up is messy.

There are 2 ways to close: 1.- to isolate to a fuck location.(logistics super important)
2.- to stay in set till the end....(i usually do this one)

here, i want you to read this post and watch the video at the end, http://www.theskillsmethod.com/my-how-t ... -and-bars/


also i want you to memorize that "to get a girl you must be willing to lose a girl" and " I rather get rejected by escalating than by no escalating at all"

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Yeah, that sounds about right. I think last time I was like this I needed that kick to realise why I was acting this way and, essentially, wimping out.

Thanks!