Heey my game is improving really well SPAM since I joined here!

Now I remember Neil Strauss always saying that whenever he ran into a problem he would post it, get advice and it nevver happend again. Thats how he improved even faster. Cozz you guys are awesome

I opend a 3 set sitting in a nightclub at a place where you can talk.

Me: ''Heey looks like the party is over here!'' ''Girls I have to say I just saw you and if it was not for the fact that I'm gay you would all so be mine!''
Girls: Hahaha, you serious!?
Me: Nah not really, but It was that or take a picture of you girls and send it to santa so he knows what I want
Girls: ( dont remember but they laughed because i wasn't being that serious)
Me: How do you girls know each other?
Girls: Bla bla
Me: Anyways I really need a female opinion ( don't like this without a pre opener). I do have to go soon back to my friends. But one of my friends here has a girlfriend. And she often makes out with another girl when she's drunk. Do you think thats cheating? He is making a big trouble of it and I'm saying he's just being gay..
(Some small talk about this)
Me: Hey you girls seem kinda spiritual, do you believe in esp?
Girls: Depends, what is it?
Me: Its that when you have a big connection with someone you can read their minds, like best friends often have.
Here let me you ask all 3 of you something. ( doing the nr game with the 3 and 7 on the blackboard. ) Had all of them correct )

After that game I still had to lead the conversation a bit but I had NO CLUE. I just did not knew what to say anymore. Did not wanted to ask them where they from , what the do etc.
I wanted to use some assumptions maybe but just did not knew anything..

What would you have done after that when I ran dead?

Really thanks if you can help me here, would help my game out alot!

Over gaming. An opener is to OPEN. You opened. You don't have to keep playing games. Most routines do not build that much attraction and are more useful for lulls in conversation or to open.

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Alright thanks!

But then.. I don't really know what kind of topics you can talk about in these situation. Things like travel, what they do, where the from they don't give attrection. I'd like to talk about youth things. Their childhood or old tv shows.

But I don't know any kind of assumptions or so to bring the conversation in that way withouth it being weird..

Wow, this will be easy as it seems you have no problems saying whatever the hell you want to say to random groups of girls. That's probably 90% of the game right there.

I'm guessing that you are going out to "pick up", not just entertain a bunch of girls. If so, sooner better than later, you're going to have to zone in on the one you want and work on her. There's a bunch of different ways to do this but you'll want to have to get an idea for the dynamics of the group. You leaving that bar with one of the two girls doesn't have to please everybody but it needs to jive with their culture. For instance, if you yanked the older 'controlling' girl of the bunch out, you don't have to sell the idea to the other two at all. Actually, they don't even have to like you. The girl will just whisper, "It's OK." and off you go. If you're picking on the little 'helpless girl' that they're always trying to protect, you've got your work cut out for you. If they're mature enough, you're still good to go but as much as you think that YOU are sizing them up, their little "man-hook-up-hormone-radar-brain" meters are steaming full time.

Every one of those games you mentioned has one important piece missing. None offered you a stronger connection to any one of those girls. And don't think that they have never heard of those games. You are talking about a species who hold hands to the bathroom together so that they can continue to gossip while they piss and poop... and they read everything under the sun regarding relationships and sex.

After every conversation piece is an opportunity to get closer to one girl. Logistically, it works better with the outer 2. If you can connect one enough to actually turn her head to you, then out of pure instinct, the middle girl will turn her head the other way so that she can connect and converse with the other girl. Nobody speaks to the back of somebody else's head and in fact, people get embarrassed about getting caught in that position.

Every once in a while, you'll want to refer back to the others but do not bring them back into a 4 way convo. Whatever it is that the girl blabbers about, "blah, blah, blah, I am this and I am that." - then you go, "woh, woh. . . wait a sec, "Then you push that girl aside a little and go, "Girls, is she really this and that?" - They go , "Yeah! She really is this and that!" Then you "support" her shit but essentially, you're just planting some ideas., "Wow, impressive." or "My kinda girl" or "Hot and brains too..."

This should get you started.

Really sorry for my late reply. But Kasabi THANK YOU VERY MUCH!!! Glad you took the time to reply to my topic. Yur a legend here. This advice will really help me out! I now get it on how to deal with the groups. Thanks