a few days ago I talked to a girl on train, who was checking me out, did a great job making conversation with her.
then after the train, we walked a bit and I went to another direction,

the interesting is, I didnt ask for a number, she did !!! she asked me "should we exchange number or something ?" I said sure, and I got her number, and she made me call her phone right there she asked me "is it okay if I call myself ?" I said sure, then she said text me your name again (my name is a bit hard to learn)

I texted her same night, to see if she remembered my name, and we had fun texting same night (it was a friday night), then I asked her out for brunch on weekend, she said Sure !

and I set the location and she agreed to go for brunch on sunday, then I sent her a text on Saturday asking her a random question that what she is gonna be for halloween, and she repsonded, and said omg thats cool blah blah, lets get cofeee tomorrow at 1:30 pm but she didnt respond that (even though she had earlier agreed on sunday) then on date day, (on sunday,) I texted her, she didnt respond, I called her one hour later, no response.
in the night I texted her, no response.


this is not the first time that happens, girls talk to me, give their number, text me back, set the date, and then stop talking wierdly on the date day, without telling me that they wont make it . and they will be gone forever...

this is really annoying, what part of my game is wrong?

update, after 12 hours at 11pm
she texted, "I am sorry i got calle=d into work and I didnt get it until right now"

she is full of shit, she works at a cloth store, and they close at 5 pm

From what I've read thus far, when she didn't respond to your text about the 1:30pm coffee or the text on date day, that was the first clue that she wasn't going to make it. You calling her an hour later (i assume this is 2:30pm) made it worst, as it showed neediness. So if I add up the math right...

You: two text + one call
Her: no text response + no call response
= no/low interest from her.

I'd put her on the back-burner at this point and game other women until she contacts you again.

As for the 'what went wrong', you'll have to copy/paste the entire text convos. It might have been what you said that spooked her off, because a girl asking for YOUR number is showing high interest. Somewhere along the way it dropped. Maybe she met another guy, in which case, nothing you could have done.

sorry I wasnt clear, let me explain better :
I got her number friday night, texted same night after she asked me to text her my name,
I texted her if she remembered my name, on friday night we agreed for brunch on sunday.

Day after on Saturday, I texted her about what she is gonna be for Halloween
she responded the text, , then I responded her text, that lets get brunch sunday at 1:30 (cause we agreed on sunday but we didnt set the the time, so I thoguht if I dont set the time one day before the date, it is gonna be late ??? was this move wrong ? should I have waited till the date day so set the time?)


on the date day, Sunday I texted her at noon, no response, I called her one hour later, no response.
then in the evening I texted her "what happened ? did you get sick or something ?" (they always say they got sick when they cancel the date on me, it happened tens of times)
now it is night, 11 pm, and she sent me this text,
I am sorry I got called into work and Ididnt get it until right now"
I think she is full of shit, because this happens to me alot, they disappear on the day date and claim they are sick or something.
what should I respond her ? should wait a couple of days then text her ?

my important question is :
when a girl agrees for coffee for weekend, do you guys ask her same time what time she wants to get coffee (I thought it would be a bit hard, since it is few next days)? so you dont have to text her again and ask what time ? or it would be too soon and too needy to ask for the exact time, as soon as she agrees for coffee ?

This is why I asked for specific text; it's texts like these that turn women you don't know off. You're not her dad, boyfriend, or Fairy Godmother: she doesn't owe you an explanation. Why you demanding one?

I usually text her 2-3 days before the date with something like, "Hey, let's get a quick cup of coffee at the Starbucks near 21st Ave to see if we get along. Sunday at 1:30pm works for me."

No question marks, just state it. Now, if she was really interested and she couldn't make it for whatever reason, she would text back and give a counteroffer. Something like, "Oh, sorry that's no good for me. I'm good for it next week, though."

Anything less than a counteroffer, I throw them on the back-burner for a week and then try again.

I agree with MarkFahrenheit. Its not advisable to ensure/check that the girl is going to show up on the day : it conveys neediness. If she doesn't show up simply ignore her until she sends a text explaining why , and if she does she should provide an alternative day, if she drops you twice drop her and move on, do not ask for an explanation- its good to have something that you can do in-place of the date just in case a girl drops the date.

I find that text conversations with girls are more damaging than rewarding in most cases. Avoid them as text can be analyzed carefully and the more you use it the larger chance you have of making a mistake.

Also its a good habit not to develop any sense of bitterness towards these girls as this happens and its especially hard when they all seem to use the same excuse. Don't let yourself fall into that trap as its a negative cycle and will not help you improve your game. Methods of combating bitterness include :

- Having a fear of bitterness and what it can do to you ie its a negative cycle and will make game harder than it should be. Its an attitude for those who are defeated.

- Seeking to understand from the woman's side of things : HBs usually have multiple men chasing them as well as orbiters and with all this it is usually very hard to keep a girls attention. Imagine yourself with 50 HBs trying to meet up with you : more than likely you're going to end up ignoring a few.

- Understanding that the mistakes you made lead to the result and learn from them

hmmm, i thought it was always something to do to ask the day before if the date is still on?

yea, no shit. You need to realize it's awkward for women to reject guys so they just do this ignore/make up excuses etc. I actually have an article about this ready to get published in a day or two.

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Your whole game is fucked up. You texted her the same night and wanted to hang out for brunch? and texted her the next next day on what she was going to be for Halloween... might as well asked her what she ate for breakfast. The point is the chick is not your GF so why are you asking these questions..

You did something right you made conversation with a girl on a train and didnt care for the result and look what happened. She wanted your number, which showed you had value in her eyes. When she asked if you can exchange numbers, you should said maybe with a smirk on your face, then exchange numbers.

You should texted her the next day or a few days later to ask her out and not for brunch. You were pursuing to much and she knows it. You're out buddy, so move on.

Next time if this happens with another girl, text her 2-3 tops max in one day including the invite. And invite her out only for drinks at night.

If you want to know if she'll make it on date day - text her an hour before and say I'll be 10 mins late. If she responds great, if not then you have your answer.

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Going along with what everybody else said, and which I agree with, you also might not be building enough comfort before the number close.. (I know you said you were on a train so maybe there was a time constraint), but you said its happened numberou times... In the Annihilation Method (youtube), Mystery and Strauss talk about the time bridge between getting the number and seeing the girl again. They go on to say (Mystery in particular) that the minimum amount of time you should give before getting a girl's number is 25 minutes, and in retrospect with all his successes he averages his times around 45 minutes. When you get a number too early, not enough comfort is established to set up a new meeting. Giving someone their phone number is low energy and doesnt take a lot for a girl to do, they'll do it all the time, but seeing someone again is a much bigger leap. In retrospect, if they flake its because you haven't built enough comfort with them while you were with them for them to feel comfortable and want to see you again.

Understand..? Also, don't treat them like your girlfriend once you get their number man, give them space. You're a male with options and a high value with lots going for you, dont ruin that by investing into her over text. goodluck!

I think the hard thing for you is the fact that she offered her number first. Definitely, it does show interest on her part but, that does not mean you are there. Others have commented on the comfort zone in which they need to be in prior to meeting up with you. I agree.
Women are emotional and different--don't run by the same rules. Maybe she is a slow starter, (weird because she gave you her number first), but she may just need that extra time to reach the comfort zone.
You can try again and if it does not work, there are 3 billion more of them out there. Good luck.

it just sounds like your game isnt strong enough. Your attraction peaks soon after they meet you and tapers off quickly. And not only is your game not strong enough and do you project weakness but you project neediness as well. YOu just need more study and practice my friend.

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I can relate this this situation as it happened to me not too long ago. It seems like to me girls will--without even thinking about it-- try to make you beta and to break your rules, turn you into a needy dumbass, killing her interest.

Mine came from a young girl on POF the other night. She was fucking hot. It started off great when I told her I was getting too many weirdos messaging me and said "we should take this conversation elsewhere...you can have my number, but you have to promise not to send me like 300 texts a day. Can you show some restraint?"

I messaged her my number and she immediately texted me

"hey : /"
I said "whats with the attitude?"
she goes "I really don't know if i can not text you because I text a lot"

Right there, my Dumbass-PG13-romantic-comedy-loser-hopeless romantic side of me kicked in. I though "aww she must really like me, and shes SO hot! I can break my rules for her. I'll tell her anything!"

Even though I knew what I had to do, I overlooked my typical protocol. I could have prevented this from turning a HB9 into an eternal texter who ended up flaking on me twice.

Lesson for me RE-learned: Set the meet up before you even get her phone number if possible. use the cell phone as a tool only if you need to make new or changes to your plans. Show restraint, hold your ground, but always be taking things to the next step.

This isn't all that hard.

Why are you texting her the day of the date?
Why are you asking her if she remembered your name?

You come across as needy and being no challenge at all. Unless you fall into that magic category of men have a natural gift with women, the less you say the better.

Basic rule of thumb: Get her number. CALL once to set up date. See her and actually talk on the date.

You never see a salesman linger around after closing the deal.

Here's my 2 cents bro.

First of all, forget about this girl. It's over, if you think there's still a chance, your really gonna continue hurting yourself. It seemed to be going well until you shot yourself in the foot with all that what you gonna be for halloween and made it seem like a big deal and you've never talked to a girl of her caliber before which most likely made her lose interest.

I'll give you a couple tips.

#1 Mindset

This is 80% of it, maybe even 90. Picture this for a second, your a super busy MAN, not boy, MAN. You don't ask girls for anything, like can I have your number?, when can I take you out, what you gonna be for Halloween? etc. You TELL a girl what to do. The way you do this is with your mindset. Like I said, picture yourself as a super busy guy, either out accomplishing things everyday or meeting people of your caliber or just out exploring and adventuring out there in life. Your doing things everyday and you have a plan and agenda for everyday. You make important decisions everyday, and you've got to look after yourself and take care of yourself, pay bills, and are independent. Okay? Are you picturing this kind of mindset and what kind of life you would be living. Now, with these responsibilities and decisions to make everyday can you really picture THIS man going to a girl and ASKING for her number? No, of course not. THIS type of man does not have time to fool around and play little kiddie games like that. He talks to a girl, flirts with her, TELLS her to give him her number with the sole intention of fucking her. No shame in his game. She says no or whatever, he moves on without thinking twice. She gives it to him, that's it. It's just a matter of time then. If your game is so strong than you would not even have to do ANYTHING. Just sit on that number for a week and see if she doesn't call you asking why you haven't contacted her and it's all downhill from there. The main concept of this is that you want to actually be interacting with multiple women at a time or at the least make it seem as if you are interacting with multiple women at a time. This drives women nuts and start thinking in all kinds of different avenues. So that's all I can really share with you. Change your mindset, make it seem as if YOU are the prize, not her. I think this is where you should start. Start at a mindset of you are always out and about and doing things constantly, start doing things like taking up a hobby or two, or going to a set place every week or so and along the way are interacting with women with no real intention but to see where it leads. Flirt with them, say strange things. Women love any way you get at them, as long as you get at them.

# 2 Yeah, uh, I pretty much covered everything in #1 nevermind.