Hi, guys.

I'm new to this, so please bare with me. So, starting from the beginning, my boss is... well, a PUA is not acurate, he is more of a degenerate pig (the kind that hits on every last girl and can't stay 5 minutes without talking about sex. He asked me if I knew Rocco Seferdi on my job interview!), but still, a good looking one.

Now my boss has a new secretary, wich is about my age. When she began it was my duty to show her around the office and teach her some stuff. We undertood each other well but I did not pursue it because of the whole "shit where you eat" thing. But now I'm interested. She usually makes some sexual jokes, to wich I play along so I do not apear insecure and to keep the thing going. We see each other a couple times a day, usually at the coffee break, but spend the whole day chatting through Mycrofost Link (a kind of msn tool) initially so she could ask me stuff about work without going all the way to my office but now we talk about a lot of stuff besides work. And after work we usually talk on fb chat and text (I think I never texted so much before...), although it is mostly about making fun of our boss.

Now, at first she said she was horrified with our boss, always talking about sex and shit, and even thaught abour quitting, although she was already making sexual jokes with me. But for a few days now, she says she wants to fuck our boss, because he is charming and shit. She says she likes crazy guys who act like kids. But at the same time says she dated guys like him and is tired of imature guys (I act very mature, all businesslike, and always look calm. She says how can I be so calm if i drink 3 coffes a day). Also, when our boss tries to make a move, she always shuts him down (she has refused to go to a dinner as his +1, and refused to go with him on a business trip wich involved hotel room) although she sais she wants him. When I called her on this with "so, you want the guy and now you are passing an oportunity to go to an hotel with him, that sounds suspicious" she just gave me an elusive answer. Even before the thing with the boss there was this other guy (wich started the same day she did) and wich is more athletic than me, that she taught was interested in her. When I spend a day working with him he didn't shut up about his gf, so I said to this girl "well, you can forget about him, cause the guy is taken", then she answered "I'm not interested in him" and did not continue the issue.

Do you think she is just trying to make me jealous and forcing me to make a move? I'm still new to this and don't want to make things awkward at my workplace by making a wrong move.

Thank you,
Claudio

Friendzoned.

You are her girl friend.

She fantasizes about your boss. Probably would comply under the right circumstances. Would not be caught dead in public with his Pig-ass as a +1.

Make sense?

Guess that make sense.

Today she said she just got out of a bad relationship and acting out is her way to forget about it.

You think it means something?

You're her little puppy-dog. Why do you text her so much? What is the point? You're doing nearly everything wrong.

The reason she's wants her boss is because he's acting like a man, even if it is crude. You're acting like a girl.

Another thing you said "don't shit where you eat" but then you threw that principal out the window. I think this may say a lot about you, it makes you seem wishy-washy, do you do this in other areas of your life? Maybe this is a trait shes picked up on. Her boss knows what he wants, he wants pussy, what do you want?

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As someone once told me, escalate and find out. Just be careful you don't get fired over it.

Haha I'm not getting fired. Made a bet with my boss over her.

Guess I need a crash curse. What is the next move? Give her the cold shoulder and don't talk so much is obvious. What else? Start talking dirty?

This weekend I'm going to a friend's birtday dinner, you think it is a good move to make her my +1?

When she says she wants to fuck the boss I usually say stuff like "what's stoping you", "you tolk a lot and do little" or "I'll start taking bets on how long it will take". It's my way to display confidence and act like I don't need her. Also, since she tels me about her bad relation I also invented a fake relation and asked her advice so I build value. You think this two moves are correct?

Thank you.

Pick up your balls, invite her to your friends birthday. Don't ask like a puppy. Say something like "It's my mates birthday. I'll allow you to be my +1 for the night." Don't give her too much info on it. If she responds well then you can see where it goes when you've had a few drinks but make sure she knows you're of value to your friends.

Also, you're obsessing over this chick. Lying about a relationship/encounter? What the fuck dude. Cut that shit out and stop acting like a whimpy AFC. Grow balls and be confident in who you are, not relying on stupid lies to weed out if she likes you or not. You should have just asked her to hang out after work and go for a drink or something.

See if your friends roll with it and act like the alpha dog.

Cheers, mate!

All right. Due to the restaurant being full the dinner was delayed to next friday. I asked her today, this is roughly how it went.

me: "Do you have plans for fryday?"

she: "I don't think so"

me: "Well, you do now. One of my best friends will make a birthday dinner, and you're my +1. It's at bla bla place"

she: "A friend of mine will make birthday this week, too. I don't know if she will make something. I'll tell you leter"

There is a chance her answer may have been sincere, because she had it ready and didn't flinch. I may have timed it wrong, because I read you should ask the girl out on the best part of the conversation, but I had my mind on something else which is preocuping me and ended up asking her after she said something like "is something wrong? You're always laughing and today you seem so serious".

Now, how should I proceed? How (and when) do I bring the subject up again? If she says no or hesitates is it a good idea to say I'm getting another +1 because I never show up alone, or something like that? Something like "make up your mind or I won't have time to arrange another escort", or "you can't? That's fine. I'll just check with another girl". Will this make me display higher value or drive her away?

You're her little therapist dude. This one is done. You already showed her that you are a little chode and your boss is going to not only fuck her... but probably make you take her home from his place in the morning.

You've got to be a man. Stop acting like her little bitch puppy dog who she can "talk to."

And why the FUCK are you trying to take her out to dinner? So you can wine and dine her and show her how much more of a provider you can be? So she can use you for that and go home and call your boss and fuck him?

I'm not trying to be a dick... I just want you to be able to see this from a different perspective. You are acting like a tool. Don't do that... She will walk all over you.

He wants to put food and drink into her in aromantic manor...

Dude you come on here asking for advice, everyone gives you roughly the same advice (stop acting like a doormat) and you basically ignore it and continue acting like a doormat, then come back asking for more advice.

Allowing yourself to be friendzoned is epic AFC, and not only are friendzoned you are fanning the flames. Doing a girl favours, taking her to dinner and shit BEFORE you've fucked her... damn dude wake up. I never go to dinner or do any favours for a girl unless she sucks my cock first, just having that attitude alone will probably double your lay count overnight.

Basically you have to either back off or ramp it up, hovering in this middle ground is gonna get you absolutely nowhere. If i was you I'd escalate and say "I tried to resist because we work together, but I can't help myself I want you bad" and just maintain the escalation until she fucks you.

Stop being a pussy.

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Friendzoned... you may have had a chance when you first met her... but you hesitated.

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Don't get me wrong, I apreciate your advice, I'm just new to this stuff and find it confusing.

I asked her out because at this point I can't just have her make me a blowjob under the desk. The simple "fuck her" solution just isn't hapening. In order to do that, I have to meet her outside work and isolate her first. Since it is a group hangout I taugt the pressure was low and it would be a good opportunity to escalate and close.

Also, dramatically reduced the amount of texting and chatting and started introducing some sexual content when we talk, to wich she seems to react well. Now when she speaks about her previous relationship or something like that I just roll my eyes and answer something like "You have a lot of issues, and I'm not your therapist"

My mate needs confirmation until tomorrow to get the table, so how should I put it? The standard "are you in or out fryday?" or something bolder, like "I need an answer so I can call another girl if you can't make it". How would you say it?

Thank you all.