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 Post subject: Avoiding a flake
PostPosted: Mon Oct 07, 2013 3:28 pm 
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PLEASE HELP ME!

I started chatting to a genuine HB11 on Tinder so obviously there is a physical attraction because she liked me to get the match. We have exchanged numbers, fb friends, twitter & instagram.

She is 26 I am 24. She has a 2 year old son, recently split with father (who in his own right is a HOT LAD 10 haha) quite intimidating position I am in. As hard as I am trying not to feel like I am out of my depth it's not easy. I am probs a 7.5/10. She has already said "no way ur hot" after I complemented her beauty. I am a very confident capable guy with girls, I K-closed 6 girls Friday night just gone which was an unreal night everything just clicked (2 HB8's from the same group). But this HB11 is unreal wouldn't be surprised if she was a stripper previously (she has enhanced breasts).

I am trying not to get clingy and be too nice to her but it's really a case of fighting urges. (High risk of oneitis)

We have arranged a few drinks for this Friday night (I offered a meal and she said she would prefer drinks) and she knows I am staying in a hotel (will try to get her back if the opportunity comes on the night), she is arranging a babysitter (probably her sister). She lives 2 hour drive away. I am really fearing the flake. She has already said she is nervous because she hasn't done the whole dating thing in years. I have said "don't worry it will be fine, I am nervous too but there is something about you that I am drawn too, so just wanna meet up and get to know each other."

Basically I need to not fuck it up before Friday....?! We have messaged everyday since Thursday just gone, but I am worried about it going stale, but at the same time don't want to go too quiet in case it gives her more time to think about flaking me? We send the odd snapchat too. I'm just very nervous and don't want to miss the opportunity of having a chance on a date with this incredibly hot girl, I think I will be fine face to face, just don't want the flake.....!!!!

HELP PLEASE


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 Post subject: Re: Avoiding a flake
PostPosted: Mon Oct 07, 2013 3:40 pm 
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Help you what? Just chill out you haven't even met this girl yet. Jesus man.


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 Post subject: Re: Avoiding a flake
PostPosted: Tue Oct 08, 2013 7:22 am 
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Last night went very well, she had an injection for her wisdom teeth on the weekend so I sent her a message saying "Saw this and thought of you" and sent a pic of an ugly girl with a swollen cheek. That went down a treat and then she was messaging me asking about bros and sisters etc trying to get to know me. I answered briefly but said I didn't want to spoil conversation for Friday, and checked that she was still keen and she didn't want to flake, we made more official arrangements for the night and I could tell she feels more comfortable already. Texted quite a bit last night but I now don't feel too worried. Fingers crossed we get to Friday ok and then I will need to focus on executing a good 1st date.


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 Post subject: Re: Avoiding a flake
PostPosted: Wed Oct 09, 2013 2:01 pm 
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She cancelled.....BUZZING!!


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 Post subject: Re: Avoiding a flake
PostPosted: Wed Oct 09, 2013 2:15 pm 
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Feelsbadman. Good chance to clown on some skeezers though.


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 Post subject: Re: Avoiding a flake
PostPosted: Thu Oct 10, 2013 7:43 am 
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In a turn of events it seems she may still be interested in me and maybe that was a genuine flake.... basically we were texting last night, got a bit playful and she said "seeing as she let me down that she would send me 1 naughty pic, what would I like" I replied with "one isn't enough and you decide, more fun". In the end I received 4 pics of boobies 2 with her face in and I'm pretty over the moon. Also she wants me to get some mates together and meet her out next Friday as it's her mates bday.


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 Post subject: Re: Avoiding a flake
PostPosted: Wed Oct 16, 2013 1:17 am 
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You have to fuck her before the birthday. It's not 100% required but it will eliminate a lot of variables. At the very least make sure you make it very clear you want her (without being needy).

Keep in there, she wants you big time!!


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 Post subject: Re: Avoiding a flake
PostPosted: Wed Oct 16, 2013 8:23 am 
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Avoiding flakes depends largely on who the girl is and why she is flaking.

If the girl is the fiercely independent type, she may flake if is concerned that you are going to judge her. They act like they really don't care about what other people think of them, but deep down, they fear rejection so much that they stay away from people who they actually like and rationalize as to why they don't want to be with them. The problem is lack of comfort/lack of qualification. The thing to do is to listen to her and be responsive without judging. The tricky part in this is you have to maintain attraction while being highly available, or at least available at the times you say you will.

Lack of attraction. Normal, mentally healthy girls don't flake for any other reason. If the girl lacks attraction, you can start boosting your value. One way to do this is, once she flakes, you text her the next day saying you had fun / etc doing whatever high value activity you were doing and that you'll call her. You call her up maybe 2-3 days later. You could repeat the process as many times as necessary, but I've never had to repeat it more than once.

Thinking she can get away with it. If the girl is the clingy type, you can find a nice way to let her know that she has to show up for your next date or she won't be asked out again. You can usually also get one date from other types of girls if you do that, but it's not highly recommended.

If you've been playing it too beta, you can make the girl a little bit jealous, but it's a tricky game to play. If you limit your availability just right, you'll get a huge attraction boost; if you limit it too much, she'll feel like you are toying with her and will want nothing further to do with you.

Another solution for flaking is preventing from happening in the first place. One way to do that is by asking girls out to events like concerts, as opposed to making plans that can be rescheduled / rainchecked. Ask any flake: they love concerts, and many of their most romantic memories revolve around them. I don't have a lot of experience with taking flakes to concerts, but I'm sure it works well....


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 Post subject: Re: Avoiding a flake
PostPosted: Wed Oct 16, 2013 9:21 am 
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Thanks for the reply guys.

She lives 2 hours away so I'm not gonna see her before this Friday. Apparantly there will be lots of them out, like 15 which is kind of daunting but might help in a way.

I'm struggling to get a decent group of friends to come with me, hopefully there will be 5 of us.

We have had decent flirty banter over text and she is so much more comfortable that we are meeting in this scenario where it's not just us two and everyone will be getting drunk. She knows I have a hotel room so hopefully I can get her back there.

I'm going to have to work to make sure I don't look clingy on the night out, don't want to pest her all night constantly.

She is smoking hot as well and I'm sure she will be getting a lot of attention.


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