Alright guys has been some time since I've posted since my fathers passing and picking up a few things!

Unfortunately I came against this INSANE 21 year old immature chick and the conversation went like this, So my question is am I in the wrong here or did I do everything correctly and stand my ground? Meet this chick on meetme then added her FB. Her spelling is very bad!

Me: Nice! Are you going to soundwave next year?
Her: nope
Me: I didn't think you were, You strike me as a classical music or 60s Christian rock type of girl. - Complete joke as she is a metal alternative chick.
Her: WTF, ewwww, get out of here, im not going coz i have no 1 to go with not coz i dont like the music weirdo
Me: Just advertise in the local paper lol... Blonde hair, blue eyes, 4 feet tall (p.s I'm not very good with heights but 4 feet tall is good right?) girl looking for soundwave group. Then you have people to go with... Problem solved
Her: aggh no, and 4 foot do u think im a midget or something go away
Me: I'm just trying to provide a solution to what seemed to be a problem. I thought it was a good idea :S apart from the creepy old men and rapists but thats no biggy right?
Her: -.-
Her: your tring to annoy me why?
Me: What I'm trying to do is very simple. I'm trying to get you to think outside the box and have a little fun. The imagination is the most powerful and amazing gift that we could of ever been given.
Her: dude you dont even know me, top assuming and jidging, judging * - Their was no assuming or judging...
Me: I'm just trying to encourage a little fun... I think you are taking things a little to seriously.

At this point she goes crazy!

Her: how the fuck do you know if i have fun or not? you know nothing about me, STOP! if i wanted your opinion or what nnot id ask but i dont im fine with what im doing thanks

(I give up at this point an remove her from Facebook) Me: WOW! Your insane I was having a light conversation and where in my comments did I judge or assume anything?

I was just looking for a interesting conversation if you have a problem with that I'll talk to someone else. I don't appreciate your immature attitude.

Take care!

Her: lol, ur a joke, im immature? ha right coz i stand up to losers like you who think they can judge and talk down to ppl, get a life mate

At this point she blocks me before I can reply on facebook, I go on to my meetme and remove her.

She states apparently I have no people skills, So I call her out on her profile stating shes socially arkward and she goes on to say that's only face to face you idiot learn to read and the profile just says -socially arkward lol.

Ok guys did I mess up here at any stage was I too strong? Are their signs I need to look for before choosing a girl to talk too?

So - ok... she sounds like an absolute delight and all... but why would you want anything to do with her?

She had a bad reaction to your negs... happens.

At first she was ok, I deleted any contact I had with her after this happened and started on another girl. Her self esteem is low and from what I can see via all the guys posts on her FB and all her pictures of revealing cleavage she's just a immature attention seeker with no brain!

She bored the shit out of me so I said what I needed and walked away! I'm just looking for advice on seeing these type of girls or signs before I walk into them again and how my game is going currently.

imo there was just no rapport/chemistry there, and your messages were way too long. like you were talking at her, not with her. id say she's good to go if you rub her up the right way

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You came across as condescending, dude.

You started theorizing about her over the internet without having met her. You were weird. It's different if you have rapport and met the girl or you loosely allow the conversation to flow and be flirty, when you're flirty you can get away with these things and the tone is set, it comes off as flirtatuous. You just went all gung-ho on the chick without being flirty at all.

If a chick messaged me like you did to her I wouldn't even respond back.

Live and learn! Way off my game since getting back into from my father passing. Judging by what I saw and what others were saying to her its no loss to me at all, I was screwed from the start another guy who knew her who has major A game basically said she's a fruit loop with major emotional problems!

Dodged a bullet! But thanks for the comments guys so I know what to look out for next time!

Just an observation. But stop dropping this into conversations if you are. I figure you are since you've already mentioned it here a few times. I'm not being an ass, but realistically there are about 6 billion people on earth who don't give a fuck. There are probably another Billion people who don't give a fuck but will be sympathetic and listen. And then there are about 50 people who genuinely care. Non of whom are going to be women you first meet them.

I don't talk about that with the new girls I meet and in fact I keep that part of my life to myself with new people I meet, I only made 1 other post where I mentioned it. We are all here for learning hence I asked for feedback and yes people just don't care they will state they do and offer support at the time then drop off and go back to their own ways.

I came here for mature advice on where I can handle things better and build a strong skill and alpha male mind set, Their is no doubt I'm going to be off at this time I didn't come here for a lecture about him. I've gone through many females learning and growing.

As they say can't improve unless you make mistakes first! So the things I mostly take from this thread is I need to learn on building comfort and rapport and need to hold off on guns blazing the comments you see were advice and ideas been giving through a mate who also studies PUA but is at a advance level in saying that what works for him won't work for me.

Even though in my eyes I did nothing wrong it didn't work because I didn't use my own judgement call on the level of comfort and rapport that she was at, She was a lunatic however only need to view her profile and what she says about others to figure that one out. My other aspect I need to look at is building my red flag foundation of what I need to look out for so that's another one for the notepad!

Back to the books and study!

Actually, my father passed last year too, and for a long time I didn't give a shit about women. I know what you're going through. Game is just a hobby in the end. Family is way more important. It does take time to get back into it. You'll get a lot of tough love in this community, but for what it's worth, I'm one of the 50, bro.

The fact is that you are continuing replying after she keeps pushing you away just makes you look worse and worse

Move on. She sounds like a pain in the ass anyway. See it as a good thing.

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The definition of insanity is doing something over and over again and expecting the same results. How many negs do you have to throw, get a shit response from them, to get it in your head that they aren't working??

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Sorry guys, only just got back to reading this post. Been reading a lot on frame control and enjoying the read and its giving a good perspective on my mind set. As I stated earlier after this first conversation with this chick she was blocked and removed that was my first interaction with her.

The following texts you see were spoken through me but written by a male friend reading the conversation, I pasted what he told me to say word for word as he was reading the conversation to get some experience on the whole neg aspect in my opinion negs are a complete waste of time. If we can't be the person we are then what is the point?

I agree with the fact the girl does need a medium between good / bad, Everyone's game is different! This lesson taught me to use my own set and not my friends. It is defiantly good thing and did teach me a lot. The girls not working has not many friends and if they are they are male for me these are red flags.

I've come along way in the last couple months and I'm enjoying reading a lot of the forum threads here and thoughts every bit helps! The whole aspect in life to me is to build your outer and inner self to become the best of yourself only once that is achieved do you become the real you.

These insane chicks are out there, So my question for you guys now are what are your red flags in terms of obtaining that high quality girl?

They will always be red flags. Some obviously more than others

You just gotta find the ones that the pros out weigh the cons

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While she may or may not have been crazy, the exchange you had with her is a good learning experience. If you write the whole thing off as "just her being crazy" you will lose the opportunity to learn from what this situation has to say.

The main thing is whatever happened before the conversation, set the frame of this conversation. You didn't say what happened before. If nothing happened before, that's the frame too. In that case, the conversation should have been about getting to know her, and do a bit of that "make her justify herself to you" (just through asking questions)

What is "Meet me"? Is it a dating site? Did you meet in person as a result of that? If so, that's where you should have been making a difference, not a Facebook conversation. In that case, this conversation shows whatever happened when you met up, was not very interesting, and still wasn't at the level where you should be doing those "playful negs". She's calling you "wierdo" after only your second message. Makes me think something else happened that already formed an opinion of you.

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