Ok guys, according to me, this is a seriously complicated case...

My sister's friend, she's only 16, turning 17 soon. I'm 20, turning 21 in a month. So there's no big deal, she's not considered "young" for me because it's only a matter of 3-4 years difference.

I know she is underage, but I'm not looking for any sex-drive here.
And she's still young and that's great because she can grow with me and I'll be the first she'll experience decent stuff with and that would lead to a healthy relationship.

The problem is, she's nearly best friends with my sister.
She is DEFINITELY a 9/10, if not a 10/10.

So where's the problem?

The issue is that she has a boyfriend. But a 17 year old boyfriend and I saw him the other day. To be honest, he looks really dumb and she's clearly sending indicators of interest to me.

I'm above-average looking. Great physical body, around 1.83 meters, and an above average looking face. In other words, girls find me attractive, but I'm not saying I'm model-looking or anything. Just opinions of people.

Enough about me. She used to tell my sisters (before she had a boyfriend) that I look great and that she loves my style and "wow your brother is so hot", this kind of stuff you know. Today, when she entered our house, I shake her hand and she holds on to it so I'm like "woah hand hand" and went to the kitchen (mainly because my sister was near us). Then I enter my sister's room to put my shoes somewhere and she starts punching my abs and smiling.

Main problems: One is that she is really close friends with my sisters. Two is that she has a boyfriend whom her parents know about (they know the guy) and she's been with him for over 4 months, guessing around 6 months.

The main question stands: Is there a chance with this girl? I mean I would definitely date her and see where it goes, but how should I start?

I am a man, and I know how to hookup with girls, I'm not saying I'm a beta. The problem is I've never been in such a confusing case.

Any help would be appreciated on tips on how to open up with her, talk to my sisters about the case, how to date her, anything would really help.

Thanks in advance

Ok let me stop you right there. You just said it. She's only 16. Only... your words. That's not a word generally use when they are talking about an adult. She's not an adult. You say she's not considered young for you, but you just described her as young for you. The age difference itself isn't the issue... the issue is whether she has sexually matured AND emotionally matured enough to handle a serious relationship and sex.
So are you saying you want to date her and form a relationship, waiting two years to have sex with her?

If you are then really think about that. How many relationships have you seen 16 year olds engage in that lasted 2 years?
Isn't a crush on the best friend's sister one of those ridiculously overused tropes on TV? Probably because it's equally as ridiculously common. You're the cool older guy who's better than any guy in her high school... the very fact that she's crushing on you basically tells you she's not mature enough to have an actual relationship. I wouldn't be surprised if she had a notebook somewhere covered with "your name + her name forever!" or some other ridiculous adolescent girl tripe.

The problem is she's a kid who it would be illegal for you to have sex with now, and who probably isn't ready for a serious long-term relationship.

Then you shouldn't have problems meeting other hot 20 year olds.

You shouldn't, unless you want to wait two years and then start.

I appreciate the reply.

I get what you're trying to point at.
But to be honest, she's decent, classy, and perfect for a relationship.

Yes, I know that young girls like her won't last long. But with a guy who has experience, she would be better off dating me than dating other high school kids. And I'm sure she knows that.

To be honest, many people run after her, even asking for engagement and marriage mostly. And she's following me, and I don't find a problem with that. I've tried to fall in love with 20 year old girls, and with FULLY honesty, fuck that. They have all experienced the sex part and have cheated on their boyfriends. So what I'm saying is a 16 year old girl hasn't fully went into these things. If I can take of her and be responsible for her, I'm sure she'd stay loyal.

I still get your point though, I can't disagree with what you're saying.

I disagree with the above post. Here in Europe the age of consent is 16.

It all depends on the girl. Some 19 year olds aren't ready for sex and yet some 16 year olds are maturer than the 20 something guys they date.

Go for it. Lots of relationships start with sibling's friends. Imagine if it was the other way round. Imagine your sister had the choice of dating one of your buddies who you knew was a good guy or some douche who would dick her around.

Heres what you really have to think about. right now at the age of 21 your still at that point of well shes only 16,

(pull hair omg wtf is wrong with me I can't and shouldn't be doing this)

Wanna know a secret many guys learn years later?...........

when she turns 17 or 18 and shes moved her interest onto someone else. because you didn't atleast attempt something your gonna be kicking yourself for not trying. If you do try later when shes older and she turns it down. you will be kicking yourself saying why didn't I try then.

you have to ask yourself three things if your not looking for sexual relationship:

1. do you dig her style
2. do you get along
3. do you have common interests
4. do you both give each others IOI's
5. will you regret not going after her years later

If all 5 questions are yes

stop kidding yourself and give it a shot just make it clear the fact shes underage kinda worries you, only when things get to physical cause lets face it. when two people are into each other its going to come up.

Like I said though 3-4 years isn't really that much difference and will seem like nothing as you get older.

MANY GUYS GO THROUGH THIS

almost all of them regret not taking the shot with the signs where there

16 is too young. I don't care if it's a law or not wherever you live. She's gonna be totally different when she hits 18 and she's gonna change again when she turns 20. She's still growing mentally. You're talking in a way that you'll have control over her because you'll be her first experience and that's scary. You expect her to "stay loyal' to you like she's a dog. I see nothing but crazy expectations and a total disaster with your way of thinking.

If you wanna date her.... fine... but don't be surprised if you 2 grow apart. and don't expect her to be loyal to you just because she's your first. Don't expect to be with her forever just cause you're her first

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If it was me I'd do it, I had a fling with a 16 yr old when I was 22 (legal here) it was awesome. Everyone here is overthinking, if she's hot and willing go fuck her.

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Man up and talk to an older woman. Stop giving this guy advice unless you want to be an accessory to statutory rape!

If its legal do it, he said shes "underage" is that a figure of speech or a law? If its legal do it dont see an issue at all. It's pretty common here to see this situation and its no more or less drama than dating a 20 year old. If shes legal and sexually active that's all you need.

And if the age of consent is 18 where he lives then its a stupid law anyway.

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I see how you're thinking, it's pretty logical and you are right.

THAT'S EXACTLY what I'm worried about. I don't want to wait until she's 18 because in 2 years, I'm pretty damn sure some guy will take her. She won't wait for me 2 years to initiate, she'll probably find another guy. That's why I'm asking now, because I want to take the final decision. Thanks a lot!

By loyal, I meant committed, not like an animal, more like human-being committed.
I understand what you are trying to say, and I can't disagree because some of the things you pointed out are completely true. But she is an Eastern woman, she's not open to having one night stands and such, or even getting drunk in pubs. That's the thing that makes me keep my calm mainly because she'll be going to university and back home when she's 19+.

I mean, I know things might get out of hand sometimes, but if it's meant to be (marriage material/LTR material), why not give it a shot? I'm sure no guy would ever say no to a girl like her.

I already manned up and talked to older woman. I even reached woman of ages 30+ when I was 19 years old.
Currently, I'm looking for a LTR and she seems to be a perfect fit. She has the personality, class, charm and looks.
And considering I have to wait 2 years for her, I'm sure some other guy will take her off the hands of that dumb guy she's with right now.

@vicparkguy83

It's "illegal" in my country but everyone seems to do it.
Like you said, laws are just stupid because everyone seems to break them.

Thanks a lot for the motivation man.

if you want to give it a shot go ahead! But have fun with her... don't stress over expectations of her being with you forever. Enjoy the moment and if it was meant to be it's meant to be.

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