Hi All,

My big interrogation is about when I approch a womant that is in a bar, (not in a club) with friends, and that I have to leave her soon before any kino... I don't know how to manage to see her later in the night, when she is "isolated" (event just 30 minutes after that)

Is it because I didn't get kino directly the first time? If so, I have to assume that it's dead, just because she is with friends and that I can't isolate her the first time..!? This is my big shit in the game. In addition to that, what would be a good "second opener"?

Regards,

Fak

How soon are we talking? If you literally only have five minutes, you'll have a hard time getting any woman to want to follow you around and see you again in that amount of time. I don't even bother approaching unless I can commit to 20 minutes, and 20 minutes is plenty of time to begin with some basic kino. After you've opened and attracted her, start by saying something while you have the back of your hand up against her shoulder, then quickly take it away and keep talking, so there's no opportunity for any awkwardness. Before you go, you should have an opportunity to get in a quick hand hold by having a eureka thought while shaking her hand. Then tell her where you'll be, get the number if you can, and make good on your exit.