Hey guys, this is a bit of a weird topic but something that's really bugging me. I'll get straight to the point. It feels like I'm leading a double life. On one side I'm very into PUA and going out with wings and just doing crazy shit, tons of approaches and so on, but none of my friends outside of PUA know I'm into this. It's sort of like a secret. I go out often and I don't usually tell them where I'm going. I tell them I'm meeting a friend or something, but I never really mention anything about picking up girls.

I feel like if I would tell them that they would judge me for it. I did an approach or two when out with some of them and one of my friends just said "stop being creepy" in a playful way, but still, they don't get it that I'm just approaching a girl and talking to her. And if I did the volume of opens I do with a wing in front of them they would totally think I'm just a creepy dude who goes up to any chick and wants to fuck her, when really I'm approaching a lot because I know how the game works, it's partly a numbers game.

Anyway it's really bugging me and it's like when I'm out with my wings I can be my true self, but with my friends I have to hide this part of me, which is really weird because sometimes I only know wings for a few days and feel more liberated around them than I do around my friend. I feel like my friends would think differently of me if they found out I do this. Fuck this sounds like hiding in the closet. Anyway, just wanted to know if any of you guys experienced this and if you did how you dealt with it.

Don't worry about it. If your friends don't like it then don't talk about it with them but the truth is they're probably uncomfortable with it themselves. I have friends who have never been out of college. Their whole life they have been around girls their age. I went to commuter college and started working. My friends might not get it because they've never been in the same situations. But I need to do what I need to do. If they try to rip on me for it I'll explain. I also don't keep friends that are so petty as to believe they know everything.

Yeah I hear you. But for some reason I feel like I can't be my true self around my friends (specifically my SPAM) because they don't know about it (one of them does, but we never talk about it in front of the others). It feels like I'm hiding part of who I am. When I'm out with wings I can be really confident and not give a fuck because they are on the same page, and they know that this is what I do. But with my friends it's the opposite - I care about what they think of me. This is why I find it hard to game in social circles, because I am not aggressive as I am in field when I'm out in the club and whatnot. My love life is a big secret.

Bingo. There's your problem. Stop caring about what people think about you. If your "friends" are going to treat you different because of the person you want to become... get new friends.

Easier said than done. I live with some of these people. But yes I see what you're saying and I agree. Thanks.

I'm not saying that it's easy but if your friends aren't bringing value to your life, as cruel as this sounds, you've got to get new ones. Don't let ANYONE hold you back from ANYTHING you want to do bro.

Please try to ignore the idiotic advice to "drop your AFC friends." Those are your fucking friends, dude. I'm sure you don't approve of every single they do either, that doesn't mean they cut you out of their lives.

They're NOT holding you back. They would be if they said something like "stop hitting on girls or I won't be your friends anymore." Then it would be wise to get rid of them.

But until that points, just think of it exactly the same as a shit-test from a woman. They're not sure what to make of how you interact with girls, and they're testing you just to help themselves figure it out better. They're not being mean.

Your Friend: "Stop creeping on girls!"

You: "Fine fine....I'll start creeping on YOU instead. Now come here, big boy!"

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How in the world is that "idiotic?" Your friends should HELP YOU become what you want to become. I'm not saying drop them over night... but don't think you have to be someones friend forever because they are already your friends. Make new friends. Make cooler friends. You wanna know what's super attractive to women? A guy who has a bunch of high value guys as his friends. Guys who will do ANYTHING to help you out. Not a guy who's friends are a bunch of losers that sit around watching ESPN all day and complain about how much their life sucks and wonder why no girls want to be a part of it.

You keep doing what it is YOU want to do with your life (EVERY FUCKING MINUTE OF IT) and don't let ANYTHING hold you back and your friends you have now will do one of two things...

1. Jump on board with you and really want to build a better life for themselves like you have chosen to.
2. Continue to be losers and hate on you as you become more successful

Put yourself into the vicious cycle of becoming the best version of yourself (like you already have) and anyone in your life now can either choose to come along with you for the ride or get left behind. I promise you, once you get to where it is you want to be, your old friends will be BEGGING you to hang out with them. And you know what? You will be too busy for them. All you will be able to tell them is "Sorry bro, you're too late." because you will be occupied already.

I'll be straight up with you man, my friends now are no where NEAR the same type of friends that I had 5 years ago when I used to SUCK with women. Now, all my friends are successful business owners, actors, managers at night clubs or strip clubs... basically all guys who consider themselves WINNERS in every aspect of their life.

You are the middle of your 5 closest friends bro. Look at who your 5 closest friends are and if you don't like where you stand, change it. It's that simple.

Look, I didn't say that I have any desire to bring new Beta friends into my social circle. I don't, most of the time. Exceptions being, as you said, if they add value to my life and help me move towards something I want (like Beta musicians who can help me start a band).

But I also don't ditch friends I made in pre-Game days simply because I read a few books they didn't read.

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