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PostPosted: Sun Sep 22, 2013 1:02 am 
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I was at a sports bar with my wing and there was a HB9 who was there with a group of friends. I approached and was able isolate by getting her to come sit with me at a table not far from her friends (so we were sitting alone just the two of us out of ear shot but still close enough that she could see them) Because she was acting a little shy and aloof I negged her a little by pointing to the huge plate of food she was eating and saying "Woah, slow down there. Your dress is already tight and if you keep going like that your gonna burst right out of it."

The second after I said it she literally burst into tears, got up and ran out of the pub sobbing. Her friends didn't see her leave so none of them went after her or anything. I didn't know what to do so I just called my wing over. Eventually the waitress came and took the food back to her friends. A couple of her friends left at that point but most stayed another couple of hours until last call/closing. She didn't come back.

I am fairly new to PUA but this have never happened to me before. Should I have gone after her? Went and talked to her friends? Or should I have just done nothing, since an insecure girl who cries at the drop of a hat is no fun to be around? And how should I react if I see her there again? Any advice is really appreciated.


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PostPosted: Sun Sep 22, 2013 3:11 am 
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So apparently you are completely unaware of the social problems (such as how the media influences the prominence of eating disorders) plaguing women in modern society, huh? You've scarred an innocent woman with your careless insensitivity there.

Have you been living under a rock your whole life? How can you be so completely unaware of how such a comment could really offend someone like that?

You might think that a "HB9" is SO hot that she would have absolutely no self-esteem problems, but you have no idea how much pressure society puts on women to look hot for their patriarch overlords. Imagine how devastated you would feel if you worked ridiculously hard your whole life to fit a standard you never asked to be a part of, only to have someone who didn't have to do shit to fit that standard make fun of you for not fitting that standard.

If you see her again, you owe her an apology. If I were you I'd explain that I was just trying to get her attention by lightly teasing her because I thought she was cute, and I guess I said something really offensive, but that I did not mean to say such a hurtful thing.

If you don't seek her out to set things right, you could very well be the cause of one woman's eating disorder, and it could cripple her health for life.


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PostPosted: Sun Sep 22, 2013 3:13 am 
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You're an idiot. You probably said it like an asshole too which made her cry. And then you call her insecure and "no fun to be around" lol.

Everyone wants to point the finger when they have problems. "I don't have a job because the economy is bad. I don't have a house b/c the housing market is terrible. I don't have a hot girlfriend b/c they can't handle my negs."

Stop pointing the finger at other people and point it at yourself. Change yourself and see how things interact differently with you. We are all living organisms and we react to one another... make other things react positively to you.

Side Note: If I was in your position, as soon as she started tearing up and running away I would've chased after her, grabbed her hand and said "My friend told me to say that b/c you're gorgeous and he said it would take you off your pedastool, that he assumed you're on. I'm sorry I just get nervous around beautiful women and sometimes don't know what to say."

You ruined her night bro. Not good at all.


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PostPosted: Sun Sep 22, 2013 3:21 am 
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You ruined her night bro. Not good at all.
He probably ruined the rest of her life


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PostPosted: Sun Sep 22, 2013 7:33 am 
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True u negged to hard. Negs r meant for HB10s idk if he ruined her life that may b a lil extreme but u def need to tone it down on the negs. A neg is a back handed compliment. Kinda like I like ur nails r they real? No? Oh.. Well... They r still nice. It's meant to make her think and b a lil insecure. Also make sure she is deserving of a neg if she comes off as hot shit that won't give any man the time of day then yes neg but b careful on how u say it and wat u say. It can really come back to bite u in the ass.

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 22, 2013 8:10 am 
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I agree with what Chief said, and believe you really owe her an apolagy.


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PostPosted: Sun Sep 22, 2013 9:18 am 
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so basically you told her she was fat, woah slow down piggy, oink oink

thats like saying, I hope you can swim cause those breasts won't help you float


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PostPosted: Sun Sep 22, 2013 12:06 pm 
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He does owe her an apology I'm just lettin him know where his fuck up was so he doesn't make that mistake again.

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WOW LOL!!!! A Neg is supposed to be poking a little fun... maybe even involving something positive in the comment. Say she's "cute but she's too tall so you 2 would never work out" but wow... never imply that she's fat and especially never go into detail that her fat is busting out her clothes lol. I'm sure even the Rihanna's of the world have days they feel fat once in a while.... it's a weird female thing and you can really hurt them with those type of comments. Definitely apologize. She might think of that moment for the rest of her life now lol.

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 22, 2013 3:17 pm 
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Now imagine this: An AFG is walking down the street when he sees an HB9 running out of a bar in tears.

He asks "what happened?"
She says "some jerk just called me fat!"
He replies "he's a jerk, you're perfect"
She stops crying and says "you're so sweet. Thank you. Wanna fuck?"

Congratulations, thanks to you some AFG just got the night of his life. :lol:


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PostPosted: Sun Sep 22, 2013 4:39 pm 
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Neg and INSULT are not the same thing.... Apologize, I mean, wtf else can you do at this stage?
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I was at a sports bar with my wing and there was a HB9 who was there with a group of friends. I approached and was able isolate by getting her to come sit with me at a table not far from her friends (so we were sitting alone just the two of us out of ear shot but still close enough that she could see them) Because she was acting a little shy and aloof I negged her a little by pointing to the huge plate of food she was eating and saying "Woah, slow down there. Your dress is already tight and if you keep going like that your gonna burst right out of it."

The second after I said it she literally burst into tears, got up and ran out of the pub sobbing. Her friends didn't see her leave so none of them went after her or anything. I didn't know what to do so I just called my wing over. Eventually the waitress came and took the food back to her friends. A couple of her friends left at that point but most stayed another couple of hours until last call/closing. She didn't come back.

I am fairly new to PUA but this have never happened to me before. Should I have gone after her? Went and talked to her friends? Or should I have just done nothing, since an insecure girl who cries at the drop of a hat is no fun to be around? And how should I react if I see her there again? Any advice is really appreciated.

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 22, 2013 8:17 pm 
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that's not a neg, that's an insult. big difference, I am an AFC and even I know this.
a neg has to be a compliment. if it's not a compliment, then it's not a neg.
"you are fat" is not a compliment, therefore, it is not a neg.
And you only neg a girl when she thinks too highly of herself.

as a side note, here is one neg I came up with recently: "you look very pretty....compared to a homeless guy that lives on my street"

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 22, 2013 10:46 pm 
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It's the "your dress is already tight" bit which is the big killer. Trying to neg about a girl's weight is never a good idea anyway, but you might just have got away with "woah, that's a big meal, you'll be popping out of that dress after that" (although even that is risky and could have caused upset to a girl who wasn't entirely confident in herself).

Negs shouldn't really be about body or looks. They are risky areas. And even topics which aren't "high risk" need to be delivered in the right way. If I go up to a girl and say "wow that dress looks terrible", she's going to think I'm a complete douche. However, if I notice shes wearing massive high heels and make a comment like 'you must struggle to see over the bar without those on!" after we've already had a little bit of 'banter' then that's fine. And again, I'd probably only use something like that if I've already had a bit of a laugh with her and she seems the sort who likes that sort of humour. If not, what's the point?


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I would've kicked your ass if you said that to one of my friends, sisters, buddies' girlfriends etc.

You suck at pickup and you suck at life. GTFO.


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I would've kicked your ass if you said that to one of my friends, sisters, buddies' girlfriends etc.

You suck at pickup and you suck at life. GTFO.
No, we can't be telling guys like this to GTFO. He needs to stay and learn.


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