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 Post subject: Re: Naturals?
PostPosted: Wed Sep 18, 2013 4:06 am 
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Honestly I've never seen the reason to put in that much effort.

And I'm not the 'beta'...ever. I get laid more than any of my friends, not that getting laid the most makes anybody better than anybody anyways.

My point is that I've never really gone out and tried to chase girls- I just pick the ones I want to out of the ones that want to hook up. Of course talking to ever girl you see is eventually going to yield results, but wouldn't it be so much easier to just do your own thing and see what happens?

I'm definitely down to meet new girls, and I do....constantly, but some of the stuff I read on here is so blatantly canned that any of the girls I roll with would literally laugh you out of the bar.

If I see a hot girl I'm definitely going to talk to her, at a minimum to just make sure she we know who each other are, but going in headstrong trying to get laid? Most girls I know would think you're a loser. If a girl is all over you and you just met her? Well duh....go for it...but girls sleep with who they want to, especially hot ones. Not saying its impossible to completely woo one over in a half hour, but doing it consistently? No way.


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PostPosted: Fri Sep 20, 2013 12:58 pm 
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Woops accidentally double posted :p


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PostPosted: Fri Sep 20, 2013 1:01 pm 
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Honestly I've never seen the reason to put in that much effort.

And I'm not the 'beta'...ever. I get laid more than any of my friends, not that getting laid the most makes anybody better than anybody anyways.

My point is that I've never really gone out and tried to chase girls- I just pick the ones I want to out of the ones that want to hook up. Of course talking to ever girl you see is eventually going to yield results, but wouldn't it be so much easier to just do your own thing and see what happens?

I'm definitely down to meet new girls, and I do....constantly, but some of the stuff I read on here is so blatantly canned that any of the girls I roll with would literally laugh you out of the bar.

If I see a hot girl I'm definitely going to talk to her, at a minimum to just make sure she we know who each other are, but going in headstrong trying to get laid? Most girls I know would think you're a loser. If a girl is all over you and you just met her? Well duh....go for it...but girls sleep with who they want to, especially hot ones. Not saying its impossible to completely woo one over in a half hour, but doing it consistently? No way.
1) I agree with you if you think game is like a chore, it would be to much effort. But, to some people they consider it fun as hell, they enjoy the challenges and they like what they become as a person when they overcome these challenges. For example some people may like hockey, snowboarding, basketball, or some physical activity ... but, to get good/great/amazing at these sports you'll have to go through some struggle, pain, bleeding, sustain focus and "effort" before you gain peak experiences. A lot of people, if they saw what you have to do to achieve those peak experiences, they would re consider and say, "I understand that if I put that sustain focus and effort into this, I can get the peak experience … but it's just not worth it for me. Of course their is no problem to this … it's just a personal life choice. But, for some people … it is not satisfying enough to experience life in a typical simple way. So they make a choice to step up and be willing to put that sustain focus to get those couple peak experiences.

- People who doesn't want to put the effort, bleed, and suffer to get those peak experience their paradigm of life is "I want to feel good as much as I can, but more IMPORTANTLY I want to minimize the BAD emotions that I can feel."
- But, somebody who has decided that I am willing to put the time to achieve those peak experiences, they have shifted the paradigm from "I want to minimize the bad emotions like boredom, or having to focus, or having to exert my self mentally or physically, " to "I like what I have become as a person when I put the time to get those peak experiences."
- Meaning the, "I like the person I become" has a more impact and out weighs "I do not see the benefits to putting the effort of becoming that person" ... therefore the go all out on achieving this goal.


Again, this is a way of life ... I am not saying doing what you are recommending is wrong! It's just a preference on how you want to live your life ... Everyone has different perspectives on how to view life :)!

2) Their are a multitude of reasons why we approach every girl and the main reason is because it is fun :p. Plus it is another opportunity to hone your skills and increases your opportunities. You become the selector and chose the girls you like. It becomes like a buffet for you to chose from! But, if you develop and follow the process ... you can experience this natural high that is way better than drugs or alcohol! Sex is just a bonus!

3) Yes, doing canned/routine material has it's pros and cons. But, for some guys it is like training wheels. It helps them approach and overcome their insecurities. But, the most important aspect of routines are that it pushes them to take action and get some reference experience. Hopefully, they are able to remove these training wheels and realize that girls will like you for who you are :p. The only way to not creep girls is to learn from experience (trial and error) or proper upbringing (which is rare :p) ... and stick at it. The trick is to fail and then fail better the next time ^_^!

4) You can go head strong of trying to get laid if your mindset, frame is strong enough and you fully commit. Of course it is not 100% ... most of the reason is because logistics is not right. But, the reason why guys who do go "head strong" and creep girls out is because, they don't really go "head strong" or they are not committed and are wishy washy. For example if I said, "Would you want to have sex with Megan Fox?" ... most guys would say, "Hell yes! I want to have sex with Megan Fox." ... But, if Megan Fox was presented in front of them ... their behaviour would not match what they said and creep her out. That is because their intentions are not aligned. Meaning they don't actually want to "Have sex with Megan Fox" ... more importantly they don't want to feel embarrassed, they just want validation from the girl, they don't want to make a fool out them selves ... therefore they come out fake, incongruent, and their intentions and behaviour is not aligned. A more simple example is if a guy is nervous approaching a girl he would fake his behaviour of being confident instead ... making him incongruent and ending up creeping the girl.
- The main reason why girls are creeped out by most guys is because guys are incongruent with their thoughts. The guy may seem like he just wants to chat with the girl ... but in actually he wants something from the girl but he is afraid that he won't get it ... resulting in creeping the girl out.
- Therefore, if you don't want to creep girls out ... express your intentions by aligning your thoughts, words, and actions. If you feel nervous ... go approach and admit that you are nervous ... if you are tired ... admit you are tired ... if you are horny ... then express it fully (but, no rape please .. hehe )! The results are outstanding!
***** Side note ... this is the reason why we approach every girl in the venue to align our thoughts, words, and actions. No guy is horny at the beginning of the night, or feel relax and confident to approach girls right away ... but if you warm up and express those behaviour by approaching every girl ... the more warmed up you will become.

Muahahaha ... I know ... that was a long rant there ... but, I wrote it mostly for me to practice my writing skills and explanation skills. It's cool if you don't agree ... I am just instigating a philosophical discussion :p.

Have fun,

Donston!

Here are the instructors who put the effort to get good in this world of Pick Up ... Doesn't it look like they are having fun doing this ^_^?
Tyler Durden Infield Compilation
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wFTR9jNkeCg

Julien from RSD Infield Compilation
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tlWrFgIR6CU


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