I have heard of a few on the forum lately not seeing the results they'd like, the usual problems with approach anxiety, and not being able to get this "special girl."

All of people's problems posted on this forum really stem from not approaching enough. Approaching more girls will give you all the experience needed to answer these questions easily. If you are focusing too much time and effort on seducing this "one girl" then you are doing it wrong, you need more women in your life, and the only way you will get them is by approaching more. If you fumble your words around women, then you need to approach more so that it is no longer a big deal. If you get approach anxiety, you need to approach more to overcome it.

Results in this game are generated by numbers alone. Let's compare two guys, one with looks that girls consider 9 out of 10, and another that girls consider 4 out of 10.

Let's say that the good looking guy goes out, and approaches a 1 girl a week, and he number closes around 90% of them, and has built genuine attraction with them all. He scores around 90% of the girls he approaches.

But let's say the average looking guy can only score numbers about half the time, but he approaches 20 girls a week, that means he will have better results than the good looking guy, and will have more girls in his life.

Now let's think about where both of these guys will be in a year... The good looking guy will have approached 50 girls and got around 45 numbers, and the average guy will have approached around 1000 girls and have 500 numbers in his phone. Not to mention that the average looking guy has a lot more room to improve, his shooting percentage will go up the more he approaches, and he could be closer to 600 or 700 number closes.

The average looking guy who approaches a lot is exponentially better off than the good looking guy who rarely does. The approach machines will develop strong game and most other guys will be stuck on some oneitis.

This forum will only help you as much as you actually approach.

Is there anything preventing you from approaching 20 girls a week? Probably not. This is the only guarantee in pick up- the more you approach, the better your chances, and the better results you will receive.

There is a quote about getting rich.... "You are already a millionaire... You just have to show up."

Same thing goes for being successful with women. The more you approach, (the more you SHOW UP) the more successful you will be.

Nice post man.

Who's to say the good looking guy isn't approaching as much as the average looking guy?

Your post is full of illogical conjecture.

90% of not closing is approaching

be balanced an approach machine that doesnt close is just a creep who hits up girls a lot.

fun conversations, making your intentions clear, leading

approaching is a waste without these things

some guys don't even approach, they just meet girls through partying & get laid by nailing the stuff I mentioned above

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Great post man. Though I disagree with you on a few things, such as the "approaching is 90% of the pick-up"-belief.

Yeah ofcourse if guys approach more they would have better results and they would find the answers to their own sticky points rather than flooding forums with the most ridiculous questions. But there's way more to it.

Approaching is probably like 10% or less of the pick-up. Like the above poster mentioned. You can open a trillion girls but if you don't know how to build attraction, read her sexual cues (any body gesture for that matter) or play off already present attraction, or close, you're not going to be very successful bro.
But I do get the point you're trying to make, and it's a point most newbies needs to get as well.

If you're going to sit on your ass and wait for the right moment, to go sweep the girl of your dreams off her feet, where every thing should be perfect. You're waiting for the music, the lightning, the temperature and even the amount of people around you, to be just picture perfect. chances of that happening is seriously slim, that right moment may never come, like in ever. Unless you get off your scrawny ass and start approaching on the reg, you will get better at this with time. For me this has all just been a huge trail and error process, in which I learned and gained a lot of knowledge, wisdom and build my character.

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n2thevoid, there are plenty of good looking guys who rarely approach girls.

My point is that, numbers, more than anything else, generate results. If you approach more, you will have a much much higher chance at success in this game. If you have a problem in your game, it can most easily be solved by approaching more women.

If you are having trouble f-closing with girls, you can read 5 minute article on here... the rest is up to you to put it into action. 99% of your time should be allocated to approaching, and not reading articles. This would put most of these problems to rest.


I never said that there aren't other skills that can improve your chances in this game, that would be silly. You know why the greats are so good at this game? Mystery, Style, Matador, Tyler Durden, David DeAngelo, etc. all approached their balls off for years, they go into a club and talk to almost every girl he can, where as the average PUA guy goes in and talks to maybe half of them, and misses many opportunities.

If you approach more, the skills will come faster, and the results will too.

so stop making asinine posts trying to convince yourself with others approval that you can succeed at being average and go approach 20 girls.

The hottest guy in the world doesn't get a number from 90% of the girls he approaches. I am the hottest guy in the world and I get a number about 50% of the time I approach and about half of those won't respond. Of the ones who respond, I will have sex with less than half of those. So your number theory is beyond the wall.

If you are an average guy, go talk to average women. If your game sucks and you are an average guy, go talk to less than average women. It's that simple

I know dudes who approach 30 girls a night and get nothing, and I know dudes who approach 3 and one goes home with him. Approaching is 90% of game ONLY IF your sexual escalation is already strong. Approaching means jack-shit if you can't get her wet.

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TheMajikalMethod, i learned from experience that pua has nothing to do with any other aspects of life. what works in pua won’t work in say school, or same business as you are saying. every aspect of life, has different rules. but ye people compare things. but i do not think you can use one in another. life is bigger than pua. pua is part of life. and every part of life had different rules that only work in one part but not in another.


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ye i don’t think 90%, that is too desperate. what do you do the other 10% of the time?
but yes, you learn from practice. many beginners get obsessed with approaching, because they hadn’t done it before. people with experience who practiced for a long time understand that it is a bit desperate, but ye the idea is right, you learn from practice. or from people who learned from practice. if you learned from people that did not practice and wrote an article on how to seduce women, that is just a joke.

Yeah, too many people on these forums asking "How to get that one special girl" or how to get into a relationship. Ironic really. PUA forums asking how to get into a relationship when Pick Up is traditionally how to get laid and pick women up -- multiple women.

That's okay.

Most guys just want ONE girl and they want to learn from the womanizers around here. On the other hand, the womanizers around here want to learn from other womanizers and those with failed relationships to become more efficient in seducing women and keeping several of them all at once.

If Carlos Xuma's forum didn't have technical problems for a product I've bought from him, I wouldn't be here. As it turns out, a lot of guys here have bigger problems in their sex lives or love lives and they need help.

In contrast, I just wanted more quality pussy to bang and hopefully settle down once more with the best woman out of the many.

Btw OP, your intentions are good in putting up a motivational thread to inspire the newbies. However, as many pointed out already, sarging 20 new girls a week is not enough most especially when you are trying to learn the ropes.

Moreover, conquering your approach anxiety is just a very minor part of the game. Conquering your escalation anxiety as Pebbles rightfully observed by aggressively escalating towards the f-close is actually the major battle.

As VicParkGuy states very powerfully and yet simply, "Approaching means jack-shit if you can't get her wet."

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Well, I'll gladly debate this...

Let's start with school... Ready for this? School is a joke. I feel as if that's why this generation is pissed off. We were told to go to school and everything else will some how fall into place. So people spend hundreds of thousands of dollars to go to school and get their degree because that is what they were supposed to do. We were lied to. There is no amount of school that will make you successful in anything. You sit there reading books and taking tests.... But you never get any REAL LIFE EXPERIENCE which is what allows you to TRULY learn something. The only way to become successful is practice and learning through repetition... which is also how you get good at pick up.

Business... There are ALOT of principles of pick up that carry over into the business world. Read a book called "Poke the Box" by Seth Godin. The ability to throw away your ego and try things that you thought wouldn't work. Not listening to the "odds." Not letting other people tell you what is possible. Just throw it out there and see what happens.

Also, in the business world, you must be able to "think on your feet." Being able to make quick decisions and being confident in yourself that what you are doing is the right thing.

Taking action, not having limiting beliefs, envisioning success, state management... those are all principles of pick up that carry over into the business world. I've been involved in the business world since I was 15 years old. I've always sold something. Since I've gotten better at pick up, my sales skills have also improved. I'll argue any day of the week that the absolute best skill you can have is the skill of being able to read people. That will get you further in life than anything else. Also, the ability to have successful face to face interactions... All of these things are things that you can/will eventually learn with pick up. The cell phones, laptops, iPads... all this technology is ruining peoples lives.

There are many things that you learn from pick up that can be carried over into other aspects of life... To make everything I just said a little bit simpler to understand, I'll list them out...

1. Learning to lose your fear of failure and doing it over and over so you can learn something vs. being outcome dependent
2. Learning how to read people
3. Learning to not wait for a pile of gold to fall in your lap and TAKE ACTION
4. Learning how to be more persuasive
5. Learning how to negotiate better
6. Learning how to present yourself in the most attractive way possible (this benefits you in more ways than just with women)
7. Learning how to have good conversations and create meaningful connections
8. Learning to go for anything you want out of life and literally suck it dry
9. Learning how to control your mind to think the thoughts that you want to think
10. Learning to create your own reality and not live in someone else's

So there's 10 things (There are TONS more I could come up with.) that you learn from pick up that can help you in ANY aspect of your life.

BOOM Shakalaka!!!!!!

Pickup is approach... but everyone gets hung up on that one special girl or wants to persist.

sure this is true to some extent. but when you get real life experience, you can get really hurt. when you sit in class, there is less risk, than when you go out in real life. because real life may have more possibilities but it also has more risks.
that is a good skill. i usually read people from initial impression of them. not much to it. we all have it, some just do not pay much attention to it. but it is important to only trust yourself on it, not even people you trust. only trust yourself.
may be it does. may be it is this way for you. i personally get very tired of people quickly. i need time for myself.

it certainly does teach you something, but doing pickup won’t make you better at say, football, passing your test in school, doing your work unless if you are pickup coach, cook. pua is only pua. sure it can help or not help at all in other aspects, but pua is pua. leave it at that. life has many aspects to it.

the areas i find pua is related to is politics, business, marketing, serial killers, mafia. you can add there magicians and bikers. not the best mix.
being alpha male really means solving any problem with a gun. sort of like hitler.
this is why i find pua lost it’s course, which is love for women.

anyway, i am rambling now