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PostPosted: Sun Sep 15, 2013 7:57 pm 
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Bro I totally feel you on this one. I've double teamed one girl with a buddy and in all honesty it was just because it was funny and the chick was a slut so it makes a good story. This girl that I'm in an open relationship with right now has told me that getting double teamed kinda interests her and when she said that I was totally turned off. Then I explained to her how fucking degrading something like that is and let her know that she is a better girl than that. After that she was against the idea. She's also told me about some other things that have happened to her that turn me off because of how degrading it is, and I did the same thing in those situations. I'd say your best bet is to talk to her about why she let that happen see what her stance on it is after you let her know that she is a better girl than that and if she seems legitimately regretful about the situation then you know that she has moved past that part of her life and you shouldn't let it get to you. Everyone has their baggage and if you are seriously into this girl then it's just something that you guys need to move past together.


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Bro I totally feel you on this one. I've double teamed one girl with a buddy and in all honesty it was just because it was funny and the chick was a slut so it makes a good story. This girl that I'm in an open relationship with right now has told me that getting double teamed kinda interests her and when she said that I was totally turned off. Then I explained to her how fucking degrading something like that is and let her know that she is a better girl than that. After that she was against the idea. She's also told me about some other things that have happened to her that turn me off because of how degrading it is, and I did the same thing in those situations. I'd say your best bet is to talk to her about why she let that happen see what her stance on it is after you let her know that she is a better girl than that and if she seems legitimately regretful about the situation then you know that she has moved past that part of her life and you shouldn't let it get to you. Everyone has their baggage and if you are seriously into this girl then it's just something that you guys need to move past together.
double standards much? a single girl is not a slut for having a three way with two dudes. whats wrong with that?

i've put a girl on the block once with my mate. she had a boyfriend at the time. now that's some questionable behavior. but her choice.

just realize that because you're a male, you don't get scratch free for hypocritical behavior.

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Then again this is what you should think over... Which is worse: If your girlfriend tells you she had done something in her past, or if someone else tells you she had done something in her past? ...
It is the honest and logical way to tell him things like this before he finds out another way. It is in fact, a more intelligent way of handling the situation, then keeping it to herself.
You are assuming far too much here. The likelihood is nobody would tell the OP his girlfriend was involved in a DP threesome, think about it. If you had crossed swords with another dude and his GF, why would you approach him and say "Hey buddy, I spit-roasted your girlfriend a few years ago with my buddy Steve here, haha!". I would kick a guy's ass if he said that to me, not because of jealousy but because he would be insinuating my girlfriend is a slut.

If her friends knew about it, it's not the sort of thing they would tell her boyfriend. Girls only slut-shame other girlfriends if they have something to gain from it, otherwise why would they risk their friendship for the sake of gossip? Even if somebody told the OP, he would be sceptical of the story anyway. If someone approached me (friend or stranger) and told me my GF had a Devils threesome, I wouldn't just accept it at face value. I would question that person's motivation for telling me. What would that person gain from telling me? What do they expect me to gain from this information? etc.

So it's far more likely that if the girl keeps her mouth shut, the OP would never find out and be none the wiser. Just to illustrate my point, I have a question for the OP: Apart from your girlfriend, has anybody mentioned her threesome to you since you found out? The point is, he most likely never would've found out, unless a really stupid, socially unaware, insensitive person suddenly felt the need to tell him.


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If you had crossed swords with another dude and his GF, why would you approach him and say "Hey buddy, I spit-roasted your girlfriend a few years ago with my buddy Steve here, haha!"
I'm not talking about this situation. I don't know, maybe you have a point, but I live in a dorm, and I'm used to that here, there are no secrets. If a thing like that ever happens here, two days later all 386 people know about it.

Furthermore, I still don't think it's degrading, and the girl couldn't have known how OP feels about this, so there was no known reason for her to shut up about it.

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I'm not talking about this situation. I don't know, maybe you have a point, but I live in a dorm, and I'm used to that here, there are no secrets. If a thing like that ever happens here, two days later all 386 people know about it.

Furthermore, I still don't think it's degrading, and the girl couldn't have known how OP feels about this, so there was no known reason for her to shut up about it.
That's a good point about living in a dorm, it's been over 10 years since I was at college and I've forgotten how bitchy and immature people can be at college.

Either way, I would still question why the girl would tell her boyfriend about the threesome. Yes, I agree you should be open in a relationship so that she doesn't get into the habit of lying or she might end up cheating on you. But if the threesome was in the past, what relevance does it have in the OP's current relationship? What was she hoping to achieve by telling the OP she got double drilled?


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Dude send her my way please lol!

I bet you and her are from the south huh? Its pretty wild down here man.

My last gf had a history just as crazy. I just owned it. I knew about everything before we started dating though, and down here its not unheard of at all.

I used to joke(sort of) that she has such a strong libido that I'm the only one who's man enough for her.

You may think she was 'degraded' but I disagree.

Would you feel.degraded after having a threesome with two girls?

Truth is, most girls probably fantasize about threesomes more than you think.

I think your girl is a badass.


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Either way, I would still question why the girl would tell her boyfriend about the threesome. Yes, I agree you should be open in a relationship so that she doesn't get into the habit of lying or she might end up cheating on you. But if the threesome was in the past, what relevance does it have in the OP's current relationship? What was she hoping to achieve by telling the OP she got double drilled?
i'd say she just wanted to get it out there up front, and before OP found out from somebody else.

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Either way, I would still question why the girl would tell her boyfriend about the threesome. Yes, I agree you should be open in a relationship so that she doesn't get into the habit of lying or she might end up cheating on you. But if the threesome was in the past, what relevance does it have in the OP's current relationship? What was she hoping to achieve by telling the OP she got double drilled?
There is no clear reason. But people in relationships talk about their past. They talk about childhood memories, high school memories, and of course, sexual experiences. I can't know for sure, but my best guess is that the girl told OP this because she didn't have a clue about what a big deal this was to him. And... speaking objectively (because it can seem like I'm defending this girl too much without a clear reason too) it can also be that she's immature and was just trying to brag about it.

Also, there is one last reason I think of as a possibility. It has something to do with how women think, and how they think about relationships.

It is possible that the girl knew what risk she took when she told OP this.

According to my experiences about women thinking patterns, it is possible that she felt that if she didn't tell him, she would, in a way, lie to him. So (*female logic imitation incoming*) rather than basing a relationship on "lies" she chose to take the risk. It's not easy to understand this as a man. I don't even know I understand it either, more likely I just got used to it over the years. I don't think OP would have felt anything from this, but you could not know how it would have effected the girl on the inside.

This last reasoning can explain why she did it so early in the relationship.

I'm noone to judge which is the case, and I might be even missing something, but hey, you asked for reasons, so I was just trying to work out some that could have made her tell OP about it.

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Either way, I would still question why the girl would tell her boyfriend about the threesome. Yes, I agree you should be open in a relationship so that she doesn't get into the habit of lying or she might end up cheating on you. But if the threesome was in the past, what relevance does it have in the OP's current relationship? What was she hoping to achieve by telling the OP she got double drilled?
There is no clear reason. But people in relationships talk about their past. They talk about childhood memories, high school memories, and of course, sexual experiences. I can't know for sure, but my best guess is that the girl told OP this because she didn't have a clue about what a big deal this was to him. And... speaking objectively (because it can seem like I'm defending this girl too much without a clear reason too) it can also be that she's immature and was just trying to brag about it.

Also, there is one last reason I think of as a possibility. It has something to do with how women think, and how they think about relationships.

It is possible that the girl knew what risk she took when she told OP this.

According to my experiences about women thinking patterns, it is possible that she felt that if she didn't tell him, she would, in a way, lie to him. So (*female logic imitation incoming*) rather than basing a relationship on "lies" she chose to take the risk. It's not easy to understand this as a man. I don't even know I understand it either, more likely I just got used to it over the years. I don't think OP would have felt anything from this, but you could not know how it would have effected the girl on the inside.

This last reasoning can explain why she did it so early in the relationship.

I'm noone to judge which is the case, and I might be even missing something, but hey, you asked for reasons, so I was just trying to work out some that could have made her tell OP about it.

Peace

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Mine told me early on about ONS where she lost virginity, as you may know. Not threesome but later I found out it was one more guy in one night to whom she gave oral separately. Which is similar in a way. Back then she said its to clear that history, and that she could talk about it with no problem. I was disappointed primarily because I had to wait one month for sex with her (because 'its special' to her - potentially bullshit?), while she had to brag about this at the same time.

The problem with these things is if you let it go and stay in relationship long-term, if you ever get more curious, she doesn't really want to talk about it anymore. In my situation she becomes defensive, quiet, almost offended, and thinks I want to call her a slut. However I did found out something.

She said she could talk about it in beginning as she didn't care so much about me like she does now. But that doesn't make sense, all this "special" and first time she felt emotions talk doesn't make sense. Then I told her had I know it all back then, I'd dump her. That fact bothers her, and I'm glad it does, because she practically said the same - she DIDN' CARE like she does now = SHE DIDN'T CARE enough. While I thought, judging by her words and behaviour, that she did a lot. Which leads me to wonder why I had to wait for sex, does this lack of care mean lack of attraction. I wouldn't like the idea that she needed relationship with me, to claim she needs trust/intimacy for sex, while she gave it away easily before me in nasty way. Yeah, she does act now like it was a mistake, and said she wouldn't do it again back then, but this is a clear example how their perception is inconsistent. I feel like I had to prove myself, give time, until she "loves me" or thinks she does, start to convience me she needs intimacy, while she didn't need it before, and that its all because of her self-interest (she didn't want to miss the chance with me as I am reliable, but I wasn't enough in every sense, so she took whats offered).

All in all, there is truth in what you speak of, I think they want to clear their consciousness, but part of it is because they don't attach to you so much early on.
Still, the question to you or anyone whom it may concern is - should this be overlooked, ignored? Because it points out that if her interest is anytime lower, she'll act careless.


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You guys seriously need to get past your own insecurities. If you have some problem with women being liberal with their sexuality, you might need to get a new hobby...like church.


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You guys seriously need to get past your own insecurities. If you have some problem with women being liberal with their sexuality, you might need to get a new hobby...like church.
Having standards is important. If you fuck every girl who throws her pussy open, you'll end up with AIDS and a reputation for low standards. I turned down sex with a known slut in my local bar. She was pretty hot, i'll give her that. She was so annoyed she told everybody in the bar about it ("nobody ever turns ME down!!" Etc.) I am now sleeping with 2 of her best friends as a result of getting to know them after their friend bitched about me. You do the maths.

There's nothing insecure about having standards. As I have said, knowing that my girl was double drilled would NOT make me next her, I have dated a professional call-girl and a stripper for chrissake. But you have to respect other guys aren't into bisexual threesomes and disapprove of girls who take part in them.


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Good story bro, but OP is already dating the chick and otherwise likes her.

And tag teaming isn't necessarily bisexual.


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@Stephen B.

Your story is very interesting.

But I'm not 100% sure about her bullshitting you.

She gave away herself in a nasty way for the first time, and it made her upset about herself. So in this sense it is logical for her to now seek more intimacy before getting into it.

Eventhough part of the community tries to deny it, there are still girls who are waiting for even marriage before sex. And I know girls who are not virgin anymore, but got so fed up with being used that they're actually keeping themselves to this policy. It is up to the guy to decide whether he can take this or not, and it takes real balls to choose either to stay with a girl like that(and really not cheat on her) or to explain to her in a respectful way that this is something you can not cope with in a relationship, and then it is better to end it before someone gets hurt badly.
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All in all, there is truth in what you speak of, I think they want to clear their consciousness, but part of it is because they don't attach to you so much early on.
While I wouldn't say a 100% to this either, most of the time this is in fact true.

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Having standards is important. If you fuck every girl who throws her pussy open, you'll end up with AIDS and a reputation for low standards. I turned down sex with a known slut in my local bar. She was pretty hot, i'll give her that. She was so annoyed she told everybody in the bar about it ("nobody ever turns ME down!!" Etc.) I am now sleeping with 2 of her best friends as a result of getting to know them after their friend bitched about me. You do the maths.

There's nothing insecure about having standards. As I have said, knowing that my girl was double drilled would NOT make me next her, I have dated a professional call-girl and a stripper for chrissake. But you have to respect other guys aren't into bisexual threesomes and disapprove of girls who take part in them.
Agreed 100%. All this time it was just the means of doing it, and the double standrads that I was fed up with in this thread.

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@Stephen B.

Your story is very interesting.

But I'm not 100% sure about her bullshitting you.
It would require very skillful psychology, face-to-face, and objective mind, to detect her true purpose. Many times women express things which they don't understand themselves, so its hard to differ between their own personal issues, inexperience, or attempt of manipulation.
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She gave away herself in a nasty way for the first time, and it made her upset about herself. So in this sense it is logical for her to now seek more intimacy before getting into it.
1) This girl, being young (19yr), is either a natural master of things PUAs try to learn, with her subtle push-pull 'routines', non-dramatic approach, impression that she's stable LTR material(no cheating, lasts without being caught in deal-breaking bullshit for cca 1 year already) and doesn't show morbid neediness, everything PUAs want to achieve to manage relationships, even though this is her first.

2) Or she is either non-neurotic girl who just isn't insane and fanatical about me to fully let go, her interest level isn't enough, so she keeps me as solid option for a while because she's got nothing to loose. Because she isn't exactly good with real communication, expression, more like lacking certain experience. Bridge between the first option and this, is when she started to SOFT NEXT ME for few hours, or maybe just breaks down, if I communicate some problem which hits unpleasant spot. Then she apologizes after, admitting she overreacted and why. She lies about not being moved/annoyed by anything, but if I hit something she'll practically next me, and delay just communicating properly.

3) And last option, she is bipolar, a bit changed by her past, because she got into something which was still too much for her back then, and now I serve enough as an emotional support to fix her. So thats why I get slight impression that one night we can be intimate so much she hooks me up like no other girl ever did, and then she will 'calm down' for a while, like some kind of intimacy problem but not evident enough to be too obvious. (Example: recently, if we have sex today, which she won't initiate out of the blue until I come up with some fun foreplay, and sex ends up being intense, oxytocine-releasing, the next day she'll be almost unnoticeably aloof, not eager for sex, and little less lovey-dovey, 'satisfied' so to speak, which makes me insecure).

She told that sex would be fine everyday for her, or everytime when its possible to get enough private time, which worried me because she now started to take it for granted that she can be in 'not in the mood' mode, and we don't need to fuck every time when alone. And, she admitted when I pushed through these contradictions that she feels we're having too less sex, and sometimes too much sex (we manage once a week, and if its friday, then often it won't be saturday). This is getting crazy, but bad doesn't outweigh good, so I could make crappy mistake by heading into break-up direction.

Its so much combinations, there's no fucking way to know what's bullshit or when I create unnecessary problems.

And thats where PAST IS IMPORTANT PUZZLE, LIKE EVERY OTHER, so it does matter.
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Eventhough part of the community tries to deny it, there are still girls who are waiting for even marriage before sex. And I know girls who are not virgin anymore, but got so fed up with being used that they're actually keeping themselves to this policy.
Yes, thats exactly what I'm talking about. Some people just push the idea that its a rule of a thumb for girls to act like horndogs, and that everyone should be OK with it, no questions asked, even if you consider or already end up with the girl in exclusive relationship. As women are obliged to spread their legs for them and their buddies, otherwise 'they don't like sex', 'are unlike normal women'. Stupid fixations that sluts don't exist, ergo women of different standards don't exist - women who don't get off on sucking or fucking 2+ strange dicks enough to go out and really do it, despite being hardwired for sex.

If that theory was correct, we would all walk naked and bang like animals, with every looser getting female out of his league. Pure ideal of armchair-liberalists.


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RSD guys put about the idea that all women are down to fuck at all times because they know it's a mindset that will help you get laid. They admit it's not technically true, but the mentality helps you stop hesitating when escalating.


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