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PostPosted: Sat Sep 14, 2013 6:26 pm 
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Sup guys, it's been awhile since I've been in the community so it feels good and challenging to be back (reconditioning).

I took this girl out to a bar last night and we were having a really good time just being ourselves and bullshitting around. She was laughing and had leg her touching mine most of the time at the bar with our drinks. There where multiple IOIs: smiling, trying to get and keep my attention, asking me questions and shit like that. Just hanging and building rapport.

Now this is a major sticking point for me, escalation; mainly with the timing and setting it up, I'm a pure bullshitter so I naturally get laid but it's not really under my control. they still want to sleep with me which is cool, but not that cool. I want to say what's up, ya feel me.

So I move her outside to smoke cigs with me and I hit her with this one line "you have amazing lips, do you cut diamonds with those?" It's cheesey and stupid but all the girls love it and it deft gets the tension going. (I picked it up here but my apologies for the lack of remembering the author). I kinda fucked it up by being an antsy little bitch and moved my body forward too soon before the vibe filling set in. I tried the triangle gaze which is really all you need to get tension and at least a k close, but because of my aggressiveness, I'm pretty sure it put up her ASD Big Time. Fuck but whatever.

Now we're in the bar and this chick won't dance with me. She kept saying all night how she only dances with girls and not with guys, yeah bullshit lady, I think I may even called her out on it one time lol but I played along. She did mention a few times that she was looking for a relationship and that's cool and all, but I don't believe that matters, she just doesn't need to feel like a slut. I tried to lower her ASD, but I'm pretty bad at it, I tried.

I tried to escalate by dancing to get more body on body kino because I was already tying to anchor points on her legs and back and ametuar shit like that. But it was a stale mate.

So I froze her ass out. We sat at the bar for an hour, waiting for me to buzz down cause I was driving. I barley looked at her, gave really quick short responses. We left and sat in my car for 20 min, still freezing her out. She suggested that we put the seats back, all the way back, and put her face on the seat nearest to me, easily accessible and started convo with me. I didn't make a move because of either not wanting to get rejected again, bad mood, and not giving a shit, probably all of the above. I felt like I ran out of game, bitch move I know.

I dropped her off and she said she would drive one night and pick me up because I did tonight. I said ok and drove off.

1. What happened? Was she feeling like a big slut and was I just to direct with her? And should I text today (this happened last night) her saying that I did have a good time (which I did until I didn't get what I wanted lol) and want to hang out again?

2. What can I do to lower ASD, and should of done to lower ASD.

3. Also my escalation game is week, I get lucky a lot guys no lie, but what could I of done to insure a higher level of arousal?

4. Pick me apart brothers. I have tough skin and you guys are the pros. I want to learn, achieve, and succeed. Bring the heat champs, let's go! Lol

Thanks a lot guys, you truly have amazing insight with social situations


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PostPosted: Sat Sep 14, 2013 6:55 pm 
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Please remove from brain/vocabulary, the following:
- ASD
- Freeze out

This gamey crap is making it worse for you.

You can call it a "freeze out" all you want, but you are just being reactive because she didn't kiss you/you didn't get sex. You are justifying by calling it "ASD".

REMOVE FROM BRAIN.

Now, insert into brain the following:
- Hold her hand

that ^ is all the escalation you need because it is:
- mutual (it is a better than a kiss because kissing reduces tension if you are too sloppy)
- physical
- induces sexual tension

I highly advise you to take her one on one somewhere, (preferably not a club). Have a few drinks near your place, meet her up, link arms/ hold hands straight away and do your thing.

After you have been playing with her hands for sometime, kissing is a piece of piss and is guarenteed, then back to your house for a "DVD".

Before you ask " But what DVD?"

shush..

boink her, put something boring on for girls on like a war film or something. lol

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 15, 2013 7:13 pm 
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I always thought that holding hands was giving them too much power, like a beta move or something, but I guess it's a great way to start escalating, and get her to be physically comfortable with you, which she should be :wink:

Ill probably put on saving private Ryan and tell her that my staff is name Ryan and needs to be saved haa

Good look man


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PostPosted: Mon Sep 16, 2013 4:22 am 
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I always thought that holding hands was giving them too much power, like a beta move or something, but I guess it's a great way to start escalating, and get her to be physically comfortable with you, which she should be :wink:

Ill probably put on saving private Ryan and tell her that my staff is name Ryan and needs to be saved haa

Good look man
Not if you are taking the walking lead. What mPUA have you seen that doesn't have some sort of huggy / hand / arm holding technique?

There are also a lot of little things I would of done differently. If you wanted to dance, go dance with some other girl? Why should this girl you aren't even in a relationship be the reason to stop you from having fun (you tell her this). She will comply eventually and that is how you get your dance. You also do NOT ask a girl to dance, you tell her.

Hell, you don't really ask women anything, you tell them or imply it. You shouldn't of froze her out so hard, you only "freeze out" when she does some bullshit stuff to you, like flake or be a stupid trampy whore. Also, your "freeze out" (even though there can be different stages) is only used up until they comply with some things, or give you that attention back - which she was doing all night?

I think the bar freeze out got rid of that bitch-shield she had when you went outside and try to k-close, and you then screwed up the new opportunity in the car. You can't let little things get to you while doing game, otherwise it all goes downhill from there.

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 17, 2013 1:21 pm 
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Yeah you're right, I should of danced with other girls and she deft would of complied. Dude I normally just ask her girls to dance and they say yes a lot of the times, but I need to switch my style up ya know. So what could I say as a "command" or imply that she should go dancing with me. Like "you seem like your body can keep up with the rhythm, I wonder just how good it can..." Something like that or what?

But yeah man it deft got to me, I'm not used to being shut down like that and it was a total bitch part on my move, but whatever. She was deft giving me a lot of attention and really quite begging for it when I froze her out. Good sign. But check this out..

So I waited two days to text her and said:

"hey just to let you know I had a really good time with you on Friday night and I thought you looked great in that jacket."

She replied, "Aww thanks (my name)! But it didn't seem like you had a good time. You seemed aggrivated with me."

Which I totally was but said," I was just aggravated with myself, it's cool now tho :)" she didn't text back. Still havnt said anything but I think it's because there wasn't any escalation or something like that. Should I wait to text her for a day 2 or what should I next move be?

Anyways good look bro


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 18, 2013 3:38 am 
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It sounds like to me things are going well until you try to make a move on her. For whatever reason she didn't like the way you did it. I would recommend starting things over with her telling her that you want to go out on another date and start over. I would not try to make any kind of moves on her and just make it a very casual date. Its very possible she may have you in the friend zone. It's also very possible that she's just not readyto advance. I think you need more time with her. Just don't get frustrated because it sounds like you were and she called you out on it.


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