I'll keep this brief. First, I historically never have been a fan of it, and either I am doing something wrong or I am reminding myself why, I always feel it to be unnatural.

First, I'm 38, divorced, no kids and keep active and I'm in fairly good shape. I first tried on-line dating when I first got divorced, because I had really no idea what to do, and it was good to bang out the first few chicks, I then noticed I really didn't like any of the girls I was meeting, and, as I started getting back into the game, I was doing much better in the quality department on my own, the old fashion way.

I did end up with a serious gf, there was complications there not worth getting into, so now I've been single again. After I broke up with my gf, I was doing my thing again, the natural way, and doing well, but then also felt I didn't like the women I was meeting ultimately. The best thing that came out from this gf was I found out what I want and what I do like and not, basically, I wanted to eventually have another serious relationship, and the girls I was now meeting were crazy slut bags, which we know are good and bad for obvious reasons. So, I thought I'd give the on-line match thing another chance.

Started out the same, banged out a few hotties, then started taking it more serious....looking for something more meaningful. Now, I meet a ton of chicks, but none of them go anywhere, or don't last long. I've even had girls tell me, "wow, you're like the only normal, cute guy I have ever met on-line." then I never hear from them ever again.

Which brings me to this one...DEFINITELY more plain jane than I have gone out with in a long time. I even took her out to meet my friends, watch some football, talk fantasy, she's actually really into this stuff. My friends, all really liked her and thought I should pursue, while I a little reluctant, I started thinking the same, and actually, even if I got friend zoned with this chick, I think I'd be okay with it. I don't know too many 31 year old women into cool, guy stuff...she also runs like me, etc. We definitely have stuff to talk about it. If I had to compare her to my ex, who was my age, my last girlfriend was like an 8, 8.5, this one is like a 6, and I'm giving her a six because she has a runner ass...most of you might even say 5.

We've been texting, like I said she likes football, and is even into the show The League. When I asked her to get dinner later the week, she did go silent, then we started talking about other stuff, then I even said to her, I'm wondering if you're too good to be true. She then responded, I'm just me, unfortunately I'm not sure my feelings for you are as strong. I simply wrote back after awhile, just you is fine. I'm just trying to get to know you better - which, actually is true.

So, here's my thing...how is it, on my own, I am getting smoking hot chicks to be into me, but when I meet these girls on-line, match or whatever, that are like 5,6s I'm having issues? Not to be an ass, but I kind of think I am out of her league.

Any thoughts? Much appreciated.

j.

What were you doing to bang the hotties? Use the same game to get a meaningful relationship. I wrote an article about this a couple days ago. Stop gaming girls you like differently than the girls you actually have gamed successfully.

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Thanks. Well, girls I have met the old fashion way so to speak, I essentially used many of the tactics talked about on here...I can talk kind of seductively without sounding like a creep...I'm a fan of using kino, obviously, and also putting like the subtle future ideas in their head, like, "We should do that sometime, that type of stuff."

This one last weekend, all I can think of that maybe we were hanging too much like friends, which was actually ok with me, it was football Sunday. I just don't know how to follow-up with her now, or if I even should....I had one I was banging simply fall off the face of the earth, literally, stopped responding to me out of the blue after asking when I was coming back into town.

This one from past weekend, I thought at the very least she'd want to be friends. Or maybe my response of I'm just trying to get to know you better, was the right call.

The girl I met on Saturday, a different one, I was using kino she was receptive, and I haven't heard from her. I don't know, the girls I meet on-line, I don't know if there's a tense thing because of how you're meeting them or what....

But I will look for your article.

thanks

http://www.joshsway.com/articles/view/c ... eres-why-2

here is an excerpt that is probably applicable if you don't feel like reading it:

" How much you like her is strategically irrelevant – How much you like a girl may impact the way you feel when you see her but it is just about as irrelevant to dating strategy as uniform color is to football strategy. Would you switch to a passing game in the Super Bowl because you like the other teams uniform? Of course not. You would switch to a passing game if they had a strong run defense and weak pass defense. In other words, you would switch your approach based on the traits of your opponent that impact the game. It’s the same with dating. What matters is appearing as an attractive man to your date, not how much you like her. Use information you have about her to adjust your game, not what you feel about her."

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Interesting. I think I perhaps was just not on my game or maybe I didn't care that much. I liked the fact she was getting a long with my friends. She told me she didn't think we had anything in common or our personalities didn't mesh...which I thought was odd because we both run, I've run 6 marathons, she training for her first, have the same sports interests, etc., but we have nothing in common? I actually asked her to set me up with one of her friends, that she shouldn't feel bad that I would get vested because we never had gone out on a real date even....I simply liked the fact she was like one of the guys, which was true. Like I said, I truly wouldn't mind just being friends with this girl. But I still found the "nothing in common" thing weird.

The irony, my friends said I should be all about her, and my response was, we'll see, she may be a little too plain Jane for me, and now she's blowing me off. LOL.

I also told her (which is true), regarding perhaps meeting some of her friends that I am sort of seeing a 26 year old, which for obvious reasons I don't see going anywhere, and have a date tonight with a girl my age, which I have reservations about not worth getting into, and that I think I deserve something more.

All this is true, and I wasn't saying it to be cocky, well, maybe a little, but for the reality that I also really could use just a friend, as cheesy as that may sound, it's true....I'm not opposed to the wing woman thing.

j.