So I've been using dominant eye contact recently, with great results (I had a PhD student for Physical Chemistry at a major US university eye banging me two days ago - super cute too - until I fucked up talking to her friends. She was sad to see them drag her away). I used to be good at physical escalation, but I've been slow to get back into that since getting sad over a girl (it's taking me time to get back to the level I was at before - one way I'm doing that is practicing in areas I was weak before)

I've been practicing my conversation skills - and I read about a difference between I believe "wide rapport" and "deep diving/deep rapport" - what's the difference? I heard that wide rapport (which I interpret to mean as jumping between a lot of topics, superficially - though if I'm wrong please let me know) works with younger girls, whereas deep rapport works with older - is there about an age where this starts to switch over? I would imagine somewhere between 22-26, depending on the girl.

How is wide rapport different from just small talk, which I've been trying to avoid?

As far as I can tell, asking the girl about themselves is pretty much one of the best ways to get attention - I started experimenting with this a few months ago, but I've been doing it with EVERYONE, man, woman, child lately. When is the proper time to tell a story? How do you make sure a story doesn't get boring?

How much do you talk about yourself? What do you do when you can't figure out anything else to say?

Conversation is the "holy grail" of pick-up. It is the most difficult thing to truly master. There are ways to fake it, but at the end of the day, you have to be an interesting person and then know how to express that without being obnoxious and too arrogant etc. Read into calibration, that is a good place to start. As to your specific examples, the trick is not to make sure your story doesn't get boring, but to be able to RECOGNIZE if that is happening and adjust accordingly. Anyways, books can be written about this topic, but hopefully this helps a little: focus on calibration to start, learn how to recognize when you are doing "well" in conversation and when you are not and adjust.

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Here's what I always say, stop thinking of what can I say next...but focus on the what does that say about her?

That's the most valuable frame you want to have always in conversation if you're not naturally a witty person in coming up responses.

For example:

Her: Are you hitting on me?

(Your Frame "What does say about her?)

You: Does every guy talk to you, you assume they're hitting on you?
You: Do I look like a hitter to you?
You: So you think I'm attractive to you?

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The key to conversation (both verbal and nonverbal) mastery is to understand the concept of Wittgenstein's language games. What exactly are language games?

Let's take this in a university environment. You'll notice that the engineering students talk differently with each other compared with, say, the nursing students, medical students, law students, and so on and so forth. In various other professions, you're an outsider into a certain social circle if you cannot talk 'English' with them.

Say, you're an architect and then started hanging out with dermatologist hot babes. If you cannot speak the dermatology language, the HBs will feel slightly uncomfortable around you. However, if you can speak their language, that's a massive DHV getting you instant warmth and dermatologist pussy.

Let's consider the language games demographics by age range. When interacting with a typical 7 year old kid, you will naturally adapt your language to the kid. You will choose monosyllabic words and refrain from using words with 3 or more polysyllables. Moreover, you will stay away from actuarial science topics like home mortgage rates, the effect of housing starts on federal reserve requirements, and so on and so forth. If you did, you'll be unable to build comfort with the kid. However, if the 7-year old kid can talk, for instance, actuarial science topics with you which you find so wonderful and lovely, you'll feel a great rush of emotional connection. You are more apt to grant anything that the kid asks from you at this point. The kid had a massive DHV on you that you feel so proud of him. You're similar, what else, and the fact that he's just 7 year old and can keep up with a mature conversation with you on a topic that you awfully love, makes the interaction extra special from your end.

Now, observe the grannies in the 65 to 75 year old age range. When you open them, they will immediately segue into the topic of their cats. This cat Freddie likes to shit in the bedroom while this cat Jessica loves to scratch grannies' pants. Freddie loves Whiskas while Jessica prefers something else. Granny will go on and on with Freddy and Jessica the felines for several hours until you dropped dead from sheer boredom and mental exhaustion. This is deep rapport to the extreme.

Now, if you're a con man and want to be in the good graces of granny so you can take a huge chunk of her wealth instead of Freddy and Jessica the pussies getting 100% of that multimillion dollar estate, you will naturally try to keep your eyes wide open and keep up with the convo topic on the welfare of Freddy and Jessica.

"Oh, so you brought Freddy to the El Cheapo Magnifico Ristorante yesterday and ate a stir fried Rattus norvegicus Royale in thick Solanum lycopersicum sauce with him. That's awesome grandma. Did you get some rabbies turbo booster shots or something? You might bite off my cock or some other kinky stuff like that you know."

You will say some long shit like that while grandma is all smiles happily listening to your long qualifier routine bait so she'll DHV herself to you. You give her the eye fuck and she gives you back the eye fuck with some twinkling glaze of unmistakable surging libido, hormonal tsunami in her eyes; prompting her to grab your package and suck your scrotal sacs off to tantric nirvana.

You get the drift. Propinquity is a big factor as well in conversations.

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Here's a fake text convo in deep rapport mode: need-help-closing-a-girl-with-a-boyfriend-vt168281.html

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Hahaha, I had a class that was pretty much entirely on Wittgenstein in college.

I just have to brush up on those concepts again. Beautiful!

That also makes sense why I hook scientifically minded girls. I had a physical chemistry PhD student at Northwestern basically salivating over me (until I accidentally tried to AMOG her friend, thinking he was some random dude trying to intercept and steal the girl away, and her friends got upset and left). Same thing with a med student recently - in both cases, I asked specific questions about chemistry that the average layman wouldn't. The med student was even like, "Wow, I've never had a conversation on a date like this".

Beautiful, beautiful. I was already sorta getting to this realization already from my efforts, but this only helps.

Should have read: "...twinkling glaze of unmistakable surging hormonal tsunami libido in her eyes..."

Lol.

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