There is this girl, she is about a 7 on the hot scale. My scale is you have to be really attractive to even get on here.(i've yet to see a 10) but i feel like I'm doomed to the friend zone, but not forever. I can easily talk to her no problem, and i just recently started with some kino. She seems to be reacting to it well but i feel like its not enough. I've gotten her to hangout with me before but i didnt know how to kino escalate at all! I was just kinda blank.... I'm really new to this stuff but i want to get better. I'm decent with openers not the best but getting there. if you guys could throw me some tips that would be coolzies

thanKs Ace

Confidence is key, However once in the friend zone its extremely hard to get out that speaking from experience. You need to be the A+ of yourself if shes reacting to the kino that's a good sign and you need to escalate further but to fast or far takes a while to get the rhythm going if your new at it.

You need to build comfort with her once that is done you can start to move forward, My recent girl one that was a friend eventually that fell apart and she went for another guy who had a lot more then what I could offer before I found PUA. Reason for this was I lowered my value to suit her needs and stopped being myself the confident, fun and cocky guy she was interested in.

Will I ever see her again? Most likely not. My advice for you be a man a lover not a friend and don't let her eat out of your wallet or eat out of her hand.

Why do you think you're entering the friend zone?

Anyway, I'm no expert, but I'd say you should speed things up. Tell her spicy things in a playful way, escalate a little bit more. If you notice she used some parfume, get close to her neck to smell her, and kiss her in the neck (one of the most erogenous part of the body) and tell her you couldn't help it. If you get a positive reaction, offer her a tequila shot... salt in the neck, lemon in the mouth. And on and on...

If it's too late, ask her to be your pivot (and mean it). She may or may not have second thoughts, but at least you move on.

thanks for the info guys helped a lot. Ill try to speed things up but not too fast but i'm thinking of having a social gathering, so ill invite her and see if i cant get a little further. But if it fails i'm not worried. Then on to the next one!

consider HOW you're talking to her...the actual things you're sharing. You don't approach conversation the same way with friends as you do with someone you're trying to date...intensity and intent are key

Thank you.

Wait so what you're trying to say is don't talk to her as i would a friend ? I mean I talk to her a lot, but i'm always getting kinda nervous. I run out of things to say. I know it should just be fluent the word that i speak, but sometimes i get caught at those awkward pauses, and im just like shit ! what should i do or say next. i know i shouldn't just be asking for (what should i say or what line could i use) all i really want to know is just how to keep talking, just keep the conversation going you know?



Ace

You just need to get her to stop seeing you as a friend and more of a sexual being + confident man.

Talk to her less, be less available, become more sexual when you're around her (read as: flirt, make her blush and feel hot inside).

If you see there's no hope and it's not working out for you try and take some time away for a few weeks, let the "friendship" from her mind dissipate and your feelings die down a bit so you're not working from an emotional position of weakness. Then work it as if it were a new girl a reset.

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