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Looks help.

doesn't change my outlook on life though.

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Open a girl with that guy's pictures and say you want to kill yourself and can't get over your ex etc. She will still want to fuck you.

I've been confident, 'alpha' and had my time with 'game' and I still had better looking friends getting more lays and makeouts at parties than me. They didn't read the game. I am below average looks and sincerely believed it didn't mean anything when I was a part of this community. All scientific studies invariably show that looks matter a lot. They show fertility and survivability.

Good looking method:
1. Be good looking
2. Act normal

EDIT: bear in mind that just about all of these conversations are girls opening ME. You know those girls who don't respond to your witty and well thought-out messages? Yeh? They're messaging this guy who has zero game and zero personality.

whats funny is your game STILL sucks dick even when you use a picture of some "good looking guy."

Just because a girl says "yeah sure" on a fucking website... Doesn't mean its a done deal. She's not just going to come over to your house, drop her clothes, and say "fuck me."

Looks aren't going to do that for you. It's not the way it works man. If you were to actually pursue a bit further, I bet every single one of those girls would flake on you.

Yes, looks will help you.

Just like having more money would help you (fuck, who doesn't prefer to hang out with someone who has more money vs someone who's dead broke?)

Same way having higher status will help you (again, who would want to hang out with some loser vs. someone who is a pro basketball player?)

But all that shit doesn't mean everything.

You still need charisma. (which if that was you sending those messages, you lack that.)

You need charm. (you also lack that too)

You need conversation skills (you lack that too.)

You need to understand how women think. (you clearly don't)

You need sexuality (telling a girl you are going to bend her over and fuck her isn't sexuality. That's just being a pervert... So you lack that too.)

So, based off of what information you are posting on here, you are ugly and pissed off about it.

Broke. A loser. Have no charm or charisma. No conversation skills. And a complete retard when it comes to understanding women and being sexual about it.

Its not ALL about your looks man. Yes, looks will help you. But you can't BLAME your looks as to why you suck at women. Maybe stop using online dating.... where you are putting the decision on women based off of a picture and a small bio about yourself.

Get out there, improve your ability to INTERACT with women, and looks won't matter anymore. Or you can keep feeling sorry for yourself. The choice is yours. But noone here is going to feel sorry for you.

This catfish bullshit is fucking stupid, what do you get out of that? I get it, women are just as superficial as we are. Cool. Good to know.

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You're a dumbarse lol. I've fucked two girls in the last two years. I know my value on the dating market and can interact with women.

I PURPOSELY acted dull and idiotic as a good looking guy to prove my point.

As for the bullshit about girls not dropping their panties in the real world, go on PUAHate and look up a guy called 'TheGreatSodini'. He actually got girls to meet up with these fake male model profiles to fuck (of course he didn't turn up). If you think the attraction doesn't translate into the real world too then you're cognitively blind.

Looks are immensely important. Just listen to what girls talk about when they're together on a train or something. LOOKS, my friend, looks.

They are talking about dicks more than looks.

I did the same experiment too with a pic of my face on a male stripper body. Same results yes. Girls are DTF.

But do you know what I'm doing about it?

Everything.

I've finally got some passive income rolling in, I'm hitting the gym, I eat sensibly, I'm spending hundreds on clothes and stylish sexy stuff and everything else in my life and working it hard core.

The difference is..

Puahate don't do anything about it. They just moan instead of doing.

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A piece of dry wall could hold a more intelligent conversation than you dude.

It's frustrating debating with you because you just keep repeating the same nonsense.

Why are you posting all of this garbage on here? Everyone on this site is here because pick up has helped them. You are just whining like a 16 year old girl who's parents bought her a Black Lamborghini and she wanted Pink.

Life isn't fair. No shit. But you play the cards you are dealt. Stop taking the shit so seriously and do something for yourself.

Seriously, shut the fuck up. NOBODY (and I will repeat... NOBODY) feels sorry for you. Nobody ever will. Piss you off a little? Good.

You need to be smacked in the back of the head so hard that you do a complete 180... maybe that will clear up your fucked up sense of reality.

Of course, that might rattle the rock a little too hard and cloud your judgement some more.

Maybe you should lay down and meditate for an hour or so.

Lol, what? You're just confirming your stupidity to me.

Just cannot believe the amount of delusion and wishful thinking Makijalmethod needs to keep his head burried in the sand. Is this what you guys call "inner game"? Being in your "own reality"? That's what it looks like to me, a world of delusion and blue pill fairy tales. You aren't giving yourself much more credibility by only responding with personnal attacks and nonsense such as criticizing his "lack of game" when faced with evidence that women are just as superficial and visual as we are. They turn into desperate horny whores as soon as an elite good looker comes into the picture and this model experiment proves it(and we have much more similar stuff). They are turned on by physical attributes just like we are. They simply are much much more picky. Deal with it.

Of course Puahate is one hell of a sad shithole and cannot be taken seriously do the massive amount of trolling and crazyness going on there but we are telling the things that need to be exposed on the seduction community. I'd love to post in a more positive environment with posters trying to maximize their chances to get laid with hot women consistantly and sharing their experiences but the probleme is that she seduction community is living in a fantasy world.

Didn't we already do this? the-secret-to-get-incredibly-easy-lays- ... 66913.html

Just stop feeding the troll guys... it's really the only way.

I've received compliments on my looks that a lot of guys couldn't dream of.

But it means nothing.

As a man, if you don't have the balls to take action, you can be Brad Pitt and it won't matter.

I also believe even an ugly guy could post similar stuff to the OP and still have girls playing along. It's entertainment.

I hope this thread is trolling, because it's diverting us from the matters at hand.

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What the fuck are you still doing here? I thought I told you to go fuck your mother...

Seriously man, nobody gives a rat's ass about what you are trying to "expose." So get out of here.

You talk about "living in a fantasy world" because it's only a fantasy to YOU tools. You keep saying "the only thing that matters is looks." Cool. Believe whatever you want to believe. Seriously. ITS YOUR REALITY!!! Reality is subjective. Your beliefs are your own. I don't know how else to get that through your head because your skull is so damn thick, it's constricting your sad excuse of a brain.

You can sit here and say "looks are the only thing that matters" all you want, but myself and plenty of other guys on this forum and who are into pick up, have pulled girls that you would consider "too attractive" for. So there is your proof that your "studies" are flawed. Even if you see pictures or videos... You just say they are fake. So what's the use of trying to argue?

You treat your PUA hate forum as some type of cult or group. That's sad. Atleast you have something to be a part of I guess. That's not how the pick up community is. There is more to life than "pick up" yet you have all this "pill" jargon and sound like a complete LOSER. You've got the wrong idea about pick up. There is no "special pill" that you take and all of the sudden you become this ultimate mack with women. It doesn't work like that. Pulling women is a skill... Just like ANY other skill you want to develop in life, it takes practice and repetition and GUIDANCE from other people. If you don't believe it's a "skill," why is it that I can pull women and you can't? Seriously... Why is that? I am nothing special. Me and you are both cut from the same cloth. Yet you lose and I win. Answer that one for me, dick lips...

The same way that women see talking to men as something that is a skill. There are more dating and relationship help forums and magazines out there for women than you could ever even imagine. Maybe go grocery shopping with mommy next time she buys food for you and take a look by the cashier at the store. THAT'S ALL YOU WILL SEE!! DATING HELP! FOR WOMEN! CAN YOU BELIEVE THAT SHIT?!?! Read those magazines! Look at what women are reading!! You're fucking dense. You come up with all these excuses because you can't do something so you feel better about yourself... Then you come on here trying to make other people feel as bad as you do. You low life.

Learn to understand women if you want to talk about what they do and don't find attractive. Don't come into a debate uneducated saying that there is "proof from your online studies" or whatever nonsense, you fucking nerd. Most of the guys on here realize that online dating is a joke anyways. Girls go on there who have daddy issues and drug problems and yes, are extremely superficial. If you would actually GO OUT and talk to women, you would maybe be able to give them a chance to get to know you so they can see that there is more than what meets the eye. Of course with you, I'm not to sure much more exists. Your inside seems about as ugly and hideous as your outside. I'd suggest you fix yourself.

Just shut the fuck up. Stick with your whores and porn and complain to them about how ugly you are and how bad your life sucks. Don't even bother responding to this trying to get a response out of me... I'm done trying to get through to you. I honestly try and help everyone... But you... are completely HOPELESS. Until you decide you want to fix your NEGATIVE, FUCKED UP, state of mind, you will remain miserable.

Good day to you.

No-one visits that part of the forum. I'm not a troll. That's an overused word which people use when they disagree with their opponent. I've said it time and time again, I would LOVE it if girls didn't care about looks. I am not a good looking guy at all. I used to be involved with the pick-up scene, as did most PUAHate guys.
Anecdotes mean nothing online as they can't be verified. There is some truth to what you said, though. If you're socially inept or have a low libido then yeh, it won't have much of an impact. What I'm saying is that looks are a vital part of attraction, as demonstrated by this hunk getting women wet, even conservative Muslim girls.

Also, no ugly would get girls doing this. We've also done this experiment. What is particularly fascinating about these experiments is that the girls open the male models. Very, very little effort is required.

Here's the thing, learning how to deal with girls and improve your chances is fine and discussion that I would encourage, but the guys here saying that it doesn't matter if you're ugly is just outright false. Looks is such a crucial part of attraction (as shown by scientific studies [are PhD's trolling too?]) and it must be factored into discussions regarding attracting women. It's not nice to discuss because, for the most part, we can't control our cheekbones, jawline, eye width, skull size, height, shoulder to waist ratio etc, but it's necessary.

Looks, money and status. This is what attracts females, PERIOD. If status and money is similar to the female (as it is for most in this 21st century world) then looks are the most important.