I went to a college party last night with a gameplan in mind: approach with opinion opener and start conversation with some DHV materials I prepared before hand while initiating kino and incorporating push-pull, in hopes of escalating things further. Of course this gameplan did not work out and it turns out I'm no different from other AFCs (my friends) who tries to get to know people by asking boring questions like "So where you study?" and "What are you studying?". The only difference is that I got the confidence the approach, managed to initiate some kino and have slightly more interesting things to say.

After a night of failure and painfully watched as naturals picking up and making out with girls that I tried to approach. I went back home, thought through it and I came to an epiphany of what I had done wrong. I jumped from opening phase to comfort building. Rapport and Attraction are NOT equal. I tried to make the target and myself feel comfortable with each other by building rapport, such as finding commonalities and talking about them; but did not nothing to include sexuality into the conversation and hanged onto 'safe' conversational topics.

Not only in parties, but my approaches in general like street approaches have the same issue of trying to building rapport without building attraction. I realised that guys in the friend-zone have tonnes of rapport with their target but have zero attraction, and it seems that my approaches is streamlining me into the friend-zone.

Any advices on how I should go about building attraction? I know I can do this by using DHV spikes in storytelling but it doesn't seem to work for me.

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You really have over complicated it.

I could make a long post but don't wanna fill your head with gobbleDegook.

It would help when you are talking to girls is to go in there and break the ice with some humour, start teasing them and bust their balls/take the piss.

Even be cocky and funny.

You can introduce the sexual-element later when you are used to making them laugh and having a good convo.

I get the feeling that you just get stuck on the indirect opener and never get away from it, try direct, it's straight to the point and you will find out fast if she is interested or not.

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So what I don't get is how to build attraction in sets. When a girl is alone, I don't care so much, but when she's a part of a set of other girls and guys, it's pretty hard to build attraction without alarming their friends and their anti-slut defense.

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I will be a bit more specific than PEBBLE. He's absolutely correct, but I think you don't get it.

Attraction is your sticking point, so attraction is what you should be focusing on and practising. Thus, right now caring about ASD and her friends and whatever else is unimportant. This just complicates the situation unnecessarily. You just focus on going in, and making your target laugh, and teasing her, and don't give a shit about her friends and all the other BS. You will calibrate that later when you finally have an idea of how to do it in the first place.

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When you go in and sarge a set, you will naturally be more attracted to the hottest girl. So who's the hottest girl? Usually, she is the one who has the best pair of ass and she accentuates this by wearing the tightest pair of skinny jeans. She will showcase her cleavage more than the not so hot girls, her lipstick will be redder, her breast will seem fuller because she's wearing a push up bra, and so on and so forth.

That's how you get attracted to the hot girl.

So how do you make yourself more sexually attractive?

• 1. Workout your butt more than your biceps or chest. Some 40% of girls are more attracted to a nice pair of buns than biceps and chests combined.
  
  2. Showcase your cock area more. Just don't put a salami in there or a Chihuahuha because salamis don't look natural and toy dogs move about inside your pants.
  
  3. Wear a blood red shirt; not just any red shirt but BLOOD red.
  
  4. Learn the swagger that accentuates your cock and your butt.
  
  5. Learn to eyefuck.
  
  6. Close the distance.
  
  7. Give her masculine touches.

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Sex always has to come up quickly. Somehow. I try to listen carefully, and use their words, and listen for queues. Women are tricky and subtle, but if you listen they will usually give hints. Of course older women, my age group, are much more forward with this type of thing.

Good post.

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I'm a natural. I never heard the term DHV. whats that

It means:

"DICK HEAD with VAN"

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Your posting title gave me wood. Dood have you read my 5 biggest AFC mistakes thesis?

If you understand this concept you are halfway there

Thanks for the reply guys, I think I am starting to get it. So basically keep the conversation light, make her laugh, kino escalate, tease and compliment her (Push-pulling) and be cocky funny.

I think the main thing I have to do is to let my intent be known early in the interaction and include sexuality into the conversation. All those rapport building stuff can come in later.

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Not necessarily, the objective to to project and communicate as high a social value as you can reasonably pull off, thats your pull, then calibrate to her push.

You can build attraction through conversation if you are good at conversation. But you are in college, you have to be aggressive. talking is not enough. My game was very mediocre in college as I was still learning but I figured out aggression was important very early. Think isolation early, as an example.

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Whoa. I always thought it was the guy who pushed.