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I get all this stuff, I see all the studies, and I still stand by my analysis that in practice the results are mostly worthless. The differences in all these studies if you actually read them are quite small or the results are for something that doesn't translate into "DTFness" even if it translates into some result in a study. Yea, telling if a girl is DTF is easy, but it has very little to do with telling where in her cycle she is which is my point. And seriously, ear lobes turn red? You always get hard when around a fertile woman? Lol give me a fucking break.
If a PUA is not getting his dick hard when interacting with a fertile woman, the woman is either an ugly/fatty or the PUA's testosterone level is low due to some sexual dysfunction/disorder.

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Most signs of sexual availability in the animal kingdom involve a female displaying red in some form or another, maybe there is still a hardwired neural behaviour in women to do still display this.
Yes. There's a lot of empirical evidence for this and for humans as well. With several studies across various scientific disciplines finding support that the red color enhances sexual attraction or shows sexual availability, it's simply difficult to ignore this and pretend it does not happen.

Field experiences and observations from many PUAs around here attest to this in many field sarges.

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I get all this stuff, I see all the studies, and I still stand by my analysis that in practice the results are mostly worthless. The differences in all these studies if you actually read them are quite small or the results are for something that doesn't translate into "DTFness" even if it translates into some result in a study. Yea, telling if a girl is DTF is easy, but it has very little to do with telling where in her cycle she is which is my point. And seriously, ear lobes turn red? You always get hard when around a fertile woman? Lol give me a fucking break.
If a PUA is not getting his dick hard when interacting with a fertile woman, the woman is either an ugly/fatty or the PUA's testosterone level is low due to some sexual dysfunction/disorder.

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Lol, you really are clueless... the FERTILE part is the idiotic statement, not getting your hard talking to a woman.

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I get all this stuff, I see all the studies, and I still stand by my analysis that in practice the results are mostly worthless. The differences in all these studies if you actually read them are quite small or the results are for something that doesn't translate into "DTFness" even if it translates into some result in a study. Yea, telling if a girl is DTF is easy, but it has very little to do with telling where in her cycle she is which is my point. And seriously, ear lobes turn red? You always get hard when around a fertile woman? Lol give me a fucking break.
If a PUA is not getting his dick hard when interacting with a fertile woman, the woman is either an ugly/fatty or the PUA's testosterone level is low due to some sexual dysfunction/disorder.

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Or maybe the woman is just not his type.

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I get all this stuff, I see all the studies, and I still stand by my analysis that in practice the results are mostly worthless. The differences in all these studies if you actually read them are quite small or the results are for something that doesn't translate into "DTFness" even if it translates into some result in a study. Yea, telling if a girl is DTF is easy, but it has very little to do with telling where in her cycle she is which is my point. And seriously, ear lobes turn red? You always get hard when around a fertile woman? Lol give me a fucking break.
If a PUA is not getting his dick hard when interacting with a fertile woman, the woman is either an ugly/fatty or the PUA's testosterone level is low due to some sexual dysfunction/disorder.

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Lol, you really are clueless... the FERTILE part is the idiotic statement, not getting your hard talking to a woman.
Before any verbal interaction happens with every new girl I approach, I close the distance and bait for eye cues. Many PUAs here rely on nonverbal interaction a lot. They'll get that unmistakable hard on the first few minutes (or even seconds) without opening their mouths if and when they are interacting with a woman on her peak fertile days.

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Before any verbal interaction happens with every new girl I approach, I close the distance and bait for eye cues. Many PUAs here rely on nonverbal interaction a lot. They'll get that unmistakable hard on the first few minutes (or even seconds) without opening their mouths if and when they are interacting with a woman on her peak fertile days.

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This is a total load of shit. They will get this similar hard on with women who are not fertile also. Anyways, I don't know why I bother to respond to you anymore, you are clearly completely delusional as I have said multiple times already.

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Or maybe the woman is just not his type.
Test this out on field. Say, if you have several women friends who are not uglies or fatties, interact with them daily for 30 days. You'll notice that on certain days, your dick gets hard around them. This field observation is what led me to look for scientific studies on Booty Calls.

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This is a total load of shit. They will get this similar hard on with women who are not fertile also. Anyways, I don't know why I bother to respond to you anymore, you are clearly completely delusional as I have said multiple times already.
Attack the ideas; not the person. I'm heeding Vic's warning so I'm no longer going into this argumentum ad hominem type of discussion that you like so well.

If you have an axe to grind against Gangestad et al because maybe they are your colleagues at work or professors at the university, then this boorish behavior is the type these researchers stay away from. Maybe that's one of the reasons why they are well respected and well cited in the academic community.

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This is a total load of shit. They will get this similar hard on with women who are not fertile also. Anyways, I don't know why I bother to respond to you anymore, you are clearly completely delusional as I have said multiple times already.
Attack the ideas; not the person. I'm heeding Vic's warning so I'm no longer going into this argumentum ad hominem type of discussion that you like so well.

If you have an axe to grind against Gangestad et al because maybe they are your colleagues at work or professors at the university, then this boorish behavior is the type these researchers stay away from. Maybe that's one of the reasons why they are well respected and well cited in the academic community.

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I've attacked the ideas a zillion times, and your only responses to those attacks have been to insult me. That makes sense, as there is no rebuttal to a fucking study that says IN THE STUDY ITSELF THAT THE RESULTS WERE QUITE MODEST and when you look at the numbers virtually non-existent. I don't know gangestad nor care for him one way or the other, but it is pretty obvious that him and his colleagues at the university of new mexico are the ones with the axe to grind. They have a view that ovulation has practical implications and continue to try to scour the earth for evidence when there is very little of practical value, definitely not when it comes to seduction.

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 02, 2013 3:38 am 
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I've attacked the ideas a zillion times, and your only responses to those attacks have been to insult me. That makes sense, as there is no rebuttal to a fucking study that says IN THE STUDY ITSELF THAT THE RESULTS WERE QUITE MODEST and when you look at the numbers virtually non-existent. I don't know gangestad nor care for him one way or the other, but it is pretty obvious that him and his colleagues at the university of new mexico are the ones with the axe to grind. They have a view that ovulation has practical implications and continue to try to scour the earth for evidence when there is very little of practical value, definitely not when it comes to seduction.
Except for 6 posts in this thread, I have never insulted you as a person anywhere in this forum. I have on many occasions though picked on your ideas.

If you cannot distinguish between a personal attack versus a healthy, passionate disagreement on ideas, then that's not my fault.

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Send me full studies or links and I will tear them to shreds because there simply is NO evidence that your ovulation crap is practical in real life. Statistically significant in some research does NOT mean practically significant. You need to get that into your head. I already crushed that one study by Gangestad and the other idiotic fashion study which only had any relevance in situations where women were primed with attractive women in their area... good luck knowing how a woman was 'primed' before she went out, and even then the difference was 25% in behavior which when you factor in confounding factors at a club or out in day game equals almost no practical benefit.

When I have more time I will post relevant data from the studies (again, I did so in another thread already) to demonstrate that statistical significance doesn't actually mean shit by itself, what matters is also HOW significant and HOW big the gap is. When you take into consideration a zillion confounding factors out there when it comes to actually picking up women, none of these studies so far that I have seen have the ability to have a practical impact on your probability of seduction. This is more or less obvious when one looks at the actual numbers and factors in the VERY imperfect science of detecting ovulation in real life + confounding factors that may be leading to the woman's behavior.
You're a fucking idiot.

Back pedaling now, hmm?

Shut the fuck up fruitcake if you can't back up your ridiculous claims! Bwahahaha.

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You're a fucking idiot.

Back pedaling now, hmm?

Shut the fuck up fruitcake if you can't back up your ridiculous claims! Bwahahaha.

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Except for 6 posts in this thread, I have never insulted you as a person anywhere in this forum. I have on many occasions though picked on your ideas.

If you cannot distinguish between a personal attack versus a healthy, passionate disagreement on ideas, then that's not my fault.

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You started this argumentum ad hominem shit and started back stabbing me in other threads. Well, if you got on the back of a shark and started fondling his balls, the poor fish will either:

1. Get tickled and laugh; or

2. Get pissed off and bite your ass.

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You're a fucking idiot.

Back pedaling now, hmm?

Shut the fuck up fruitcake if you can't back up your ridiculous claims! Bwahahaha.

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Except for 6 posts in this thread, I have never insulted you as a person anywhere in this forum. I have on many occasions though picked on your ideas.

If you cannot distinguish between a personal attack versus a healthy, passionate disagreement on ideas, then that's not my fault.

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You started this argumentum ad hominem shit and started back stabbing me in other threads. Well, if you got on the back of a shark and started fondling his balls, the poor fish will either:

1. Get tickled and laugh; or

2. Get pissed off and bite your ass.

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yep, keep avoiding actually responding to threads where I show that the studies are garbage...

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yep, keep avoiding actually responding to threads where I show that the studies are garbage...
We're just going around in circles with your argumentum ad hominems. You only managed to show in several threads some obvious:
  • 1. Poor reading comprehension.
    2. Dominance of emotions rather than logic.
    3. Non-field tested advices or advices that are not congruent with field observations.
    4. Mathematical suckage-- BIGTIME.
I have had enough answering your argumentum ad hominems so I'll just focus on discussing the next parts of the theory and ignore you from this point forward.

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yep, keep avoiding actually responding to threads where I show that the studies are garbage...
We're just going around in circles with your argumentum ad hominems. You only managed to show in several threads some obvious:
  • 1. Poor reading comprehension.
    2. Dominance of emotions rather than logic.
    3. Non-field tested advices or advices that are not congruent with field observations.
    4. Mathematical suckage-- BIGTIME.
I have had enough answering your argumentum ad hominems so I'll just focus on discussing the next parts of the theory and ignore you from this point forward.

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Making a random list of blatantly false statements proves nothing. Once again, you randomly make statements with no basis whatsoever. Good idea, continue the conversation with me. I wish there was an ignore button here so I can just ignore the stupidity you post in these forums.

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