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Dear Zip,

1) What are some things you say to a guy on a date when you are getting creeped out but want to retain the appearance of being polite? How about body language.
I'll just do exactly that... become very polite. Quiet. I'll try to keep smiling, but my body posture will shrink because I'm uncomfortable.
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2) Why do girls have these huge purses and bags nowadays? Do you guys keep tasers and pepper spray in them or something?
It's the Mary Poppins Syndrome. We're running all over the damn place, nowadays, and we have to have a lot of shit. Plus, it's en vogue.
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3) Say I was too self conscious about doing the low back pain, extreme low back pain, ground beef, and missionary on the dance floor. Would rocking side to side with my hands on her sides, or a more traditional dance posture be suitable as substitutes? Also, you should describe that dip move you mentioned earlier in more detail, I tried it and almost chucked this girl across the dance floor. (Don't worry, she forgave me when I blamed it on the erroneous advice some lady gave me online.)
You will have to see me in person for this one, but for now... get over being self conscious, you puss. Ground beef away!

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You'll... you'll... what? I'll... I'll... make fun of you for not using proper capitalization and punctuation.
I just snarfed my water, thanks.

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Zip- Thanks again for answering all these questions. It's quite valuable to hear a woman's perspective.

I cannot recall the thread, but there was a post about a PUA who approached a woman and said something to the effect of:

"Excuse me. I happened to notice you as I walked by. I'm in a big hurry and don't have time for small talk, but would like to take you out."

He hands her a pad and pen and gets her number.

What do you think of such a direct approach? Do you think this would actually work?
Direct game works as long as your are smiling and fun. If you are creepy, you might get punched in the face.

Yes, it works. But only if done in a casual, relaxed, fun way.

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If you're looking for a cheap way to come to the party... you can hitchhike :)
Hey Zip

Do you have some experiences with hitchhiking aircrafts on the airport ? I believe I will run into a lot of trouble if I try :lol:

So more seriously ... Is there any special value from which a man can benefit if he approach 10-15 years younger woman ? And on the other side, is there anything he has always to avoid ?


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Don't look so much into a belly hug vs a hug around the neck. The teller is if she brings her lower body in to meet yours. This is usually accomplished when she hugs you tightly around the neck, bringing her pelvis in to touch your lower body. However, I've done the same thing around a guy's belly. More so with the neck hug.
Seems somebody read my Body Language book after all...lol 8)


Chances are you already knew that, but most of those actions aren't something women think about when it's done.


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I changed it yesterday. It is different. If you're looking for a cheap way to come to the party... you can hitchhike :)
I ment that in a good way, I actualy think its cute ;).. lmaoo hitchhike your a funny one arent you? I like that 8)


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Is the "don't give a fuck" attitude for a guy an advantage? Also I wear my old wedding ring on a necklace to remind me of my heartache, is it a good conversational peice or should I lose it?
I think it's creepy and that you are holding onto issues. (excessive baggage) I would lose it. TO be honest, if you didn't give a fuck, you'd get over that heartache and move on leaving it behind. Not keeping a memory of it to "remind you".


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Argh, you mildly disappoint me Zip. Somehow my last post sneaked past your attention. No biggie, apologies for double post.

I was browsing through the forum in search for something vaguely interesting the other day when I stumbled upon your microcosm attraction theory. It was sort of ground-breaking to me, because up until this point I thought a girl's attraction circuitry 'decides' whether she likes the guy during the first several minutes of interaction - I think it's something David DeAngelo says in his 'Attraction isnt a choice' book.

So the question I pose to you is this: what are the dynamics here? Can you be initially unattracted to a person and change your mind after, say, a week/month? If so, how/why? And does it work the other way, that is to say, once you are attracted to a guy, can it change provided he doesn't do something stupid?

It's very interesting stuff to me, and if someone else has insights into it - please share or start another thread altogether (depending on how deep a discussion we're trying to start).

Zip, do what you do best - enlighten us.

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Hey Zip

I think im a fair looking guy, whats the difference between a belly hug from a girl than as to a hug around the neck.

You better give me some good advice or ill.. ill..
You'll... you'll... what? I'll... I'll... make fun of you for not using proper capitalization and punctuation.
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Pick on the fact you trying really hard to impersonate J-Lo, in that photograph. Lol :lol:

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Hey Zip

I think im a fair looking guy, whats the difference between a belly hug from a girl than as to a hug around the neck.

You better give me some good advice or ill.. ill..
You'll... you'll... what? I'll... I'll... make fun of you for not using proper capitalization and punctuation.
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Pick on the fact you trying really hard to impersonate J-Lo, in that photograph. Lol :lol:
Haha . . . J-Lo ain't got nothing on her. 8) Well, except some hit records, lol.


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Hi Zip,

I noticed there is a pattern for every woman I open that they close up, arm crossed, legs crossed, but eventually they open up. Do you noticed you're doing this when a guy come up to you? If so, what is the quickest way to get her comfortable? Does that mean I have to jump from A1 to C1 within few mins?

From another's perspective it will seem she's uncomfortable talking to me. I want to know what I can do to open her comfortably.


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Ive noticed that anytime im around a target and she brings up sex, somehow within the conversation, i have always ended up hooking up with her later on, is this me or is that flag that shes waving saying shes comfortable around me enough to talk about sex, btw ive never been the one to bring it up in conversation, this is something that they have always done. whats the dizzle?

and on a serious note, will you be the mother of my skittles?

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Ive noticed that anytime im around a target and she brings up sex, somehow within the conversation, i have always ended up hooking up with her later on, is this me or is that flag that shes waving saying shes comfortable around me enough to talk about sex, btw ive never been the one to bring it up in conversation, this is something that they have always done. whats the dizzle?

and on a serious note, will you be the mother of my skittles?
Dude, if any girl does that thats a big IOI bro

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How to "keep in touch" with a girl with a boyfriend..

I dated this girl for a little bit (when I was AFC). We stopped dating and then a month or so later I began talking to her again. We got together once or twice, but I didn't pursue her that aggressively... A month or so later I asked her if she wanted to go to dinner.

She said:
"I would feel funny doing that because I've been dating someone for a few weeks"


I texted back to her (bigtime AFC):
"Call me if it doesn't work out and maybe we'll get together and see how it goes"

She says:
"Ok! Sounds good!"

Anyway, we text back and forth fairly regularly. (I mainly send her c/F texts.) She told me her relationship is already on the rocks-- She says her BF is depressed a lot and she has to cheer him up all the time (sounds like a winner to me).

I've persisted some in asking her out.. It's more like:
"I'm going to get some lunch. Want to come with me?"

But she won't budge as long as she has a BF, even though I drop "as friends" and "i'm glad we can be friends" periodically.

I feel like I could have had her back had I pursued her more when she was single.. You snooze, you lose, I guess. My question is, how do I keep in touch with her and periodically probe to see if she is still with him without sounding like a total chump? I think that she does still like me, but she's the shy type and it is highly doubtful she'll actually text me when they break up.

I understand "moving on," but I want to win this girl over because last time she knew me, I was AFC. Call it unfinished business.


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You'll... you'll... what? I'll... I'll... make fun of you for not using proper capitalization and punctuation.
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Pick on the fact you trying really hard to impersonate J-Lo, in that photograph. Lol :lol:
Haha . . . J-Lo ain't got nothing on her. 8) Well, except some hit records, lol.
Oh that's great!

To the beanpole dames in the magazines.. :wink:


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