This definitely belongs in PUA Lounge because noobies do not know this shit at all.

Anyways, I was hoping we could all contribute in this thread. I know I definitely want to get better at reading them and have a lot of work. I'll start it off though.

She's on her period.
A girl might make excuses and whatnot to not hangout with you, but may offer to reschedule because she's on her period. This girl I'm dating for a few weeks, not bf/gf yet (but hopefully! lol), told me she woke up and felt like crap and probably wasn't going to go on our movie date. The old me would've been pissed and flipped out on her, blablabla afc stupid shit. I was just honest with her and told her that I really missed her and wanted to see her. She insisted we go out the next night. I hit her up today how's she feeling, she said ok and asked how i was feeling. At this point I thought that I should probably give her space. I said some shit like "We'll hangout when you feel better. let me know if you need anything. " As AFC as the old me thought that would be, I really feel like that's the best way to go about it. I'ma give her space until she feels better.

Anyways, I really need to know more about these things. Like if a girl is acting this way then that's because this and this and this.

Please share!

Anyone?

Chill out.

Give her space, if she wants to see you again, she will be in touch.

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I'm seeing her tonight. Read the whole post before posting.

I hope your dick doesn't work then.

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Lol...

Iv got one Iv been working on for a fuck buddy. Shes very into me, so when I screw up she over looks it. Good practice for me as a recovering AFC. She prolly a 2 or 3, so that would explain a lot. But she has this big fat sexy ass, and Im into asses. Besides, we are clear that this will ONLY be sexual. Occasionally out of the blue she texts me late at night. But we are both busy, and single parents with full times jobs, so availability is always an issue. I know damn well she only texts me late at night when she wants to fuck. She wont say it, but I always go straight to nasty ass sex talk. So yea, give her room. Menstruation, and other shit shes get in the way. Give a girl a break.

Hi FlexBrah,

Your response to this articular situation is spot on, and this should be your attitude when dealing with people in general. If you look at it, you had two options: being angry, which would have shown your insecurity; being cool, which displayed your confidence.

The signs aren't always clear for us to always understand what is going on in a woman's mind, and its not always clear cut (she does this, automatically means that). The best way to understand women in general though, is to let them be themselves. She wants to see you, than show her a good time: She doesn't want to see you, give her space until she reinitiates.

Being honest also helps, especially if you are talking to a girl that you eventually want as your girlfriend. This is important because in the long run of things, it is the honesty that will keep that relationship growing. Look at your closest friends/family, and the one thing that makes those relationship work is the fact that you can be honest around them.

Personally, I am not a huge fan of 'looking' for signs, and trying to 'read' a woman. It takes away from me the chance to just enjoy the moments I have with them. Corny as that may sound, you end up sleeping better at night knowing that you were honest, and you gave it your all. At the end of the day, what else can you do.

Hope that helps,
samex

Best post in this thread so far.

Thanks brother!

Flexbrah, I just sent you this in a PM but don't know if it went through. I'll post it here for you too incase...

Yeah bro, here. You definitely need help reading her...
This is where you should have pulled the trigger man. When you have the sexual temperature built up. Don't feel bad, alot of guys have an issue understanding this. It's what you call "buying temperature." Have you ever sold anything before? My guess is no... because you're pretty young. If you want to get good at this, sales is definitely the career to get into. It's recession proof. But when you have a potential client that you are about to close a deal on, you develop this instinct of when the customer is really ready to buy but you need to push them over the edge. If the customer leaves, they aren't as hot.

I'll give you a personal example... I used to sell cars, this will give you a little mental picture of what's happening. I have a fresh customer infront of me, right? It's this little dweeby 24 year old goon kid in a run down ass IZOD shirt and a terrible hair cut. Pulls into the lot in a 2001 Pontiac Sunfire. Finally got a decent job- he works at Bouna Beef actually. This is a real story FYI. non the less- where he had nothing better to do with his money than buy a sweet ass car. (He was actually looking for something that would get girls to like him LOL.) So he came in looking at this Gold 2012 V6 Mustang we had with a black racing stripe down the middle. He's okay on the car, we drove it, he liked it... But it wasn't necessarily his favorite. He wanted to think about it... We had just taken in this CLEAN Jet Black 2007 GT Mustang that had all types of shit done to it. Bad ass exhaust, dark tinted windows, glass top roof, nice rims, Shaker 5000 Sound System, etc.... the car was sick. I didn't tell him about it right away. I developed an instinct to feel people out. This kid was soft.

I told the kid "Wait right here! I've got the car for you man!" and left him sitting at my desk. I pulled this car around back into the service department and went back to my desk, tapped him on the shoulder, and said "Billy, follow me!" and walked straight back through the service department door. He had no idea what was going to be waiting for him there. I started up the car and gave the gas a few taps as he was walking through the door. Said "Billy, take a look at your new car! Do you realize how much ASS you are going to get in this thing? It sucks you don't have back seats for all the bitches you are going to pull with this thing!" I was explaining everything to him as he's gawking over this car. (What his payment would be, how the process works, etc.) He was nodding his head with everything I was saying. I was selling him the car the way he wanted to be sold on it. I told him "Drive it!" left the door open for him, opened the main door of the service department, made him take it around the block for a quick test drive by himself. This way he could get that mental picture in his head of "what it's like" when he's driving around picking up mad sluts. (I worked there to sell cars, not to teach guys what worked for picking up girls lol I would let him believe whatever he wanted to believe.)

Told him that we would have an answer for him whether or not he was approved for a loan when he got back. He came back and he was then ready.... he was ready to be closed. When he got back from the test drive, I was waiting right by the front door, as soon as he opened the door, I stuck my hand out for a hand shake and said "Billy, I'll bring it around back and get it washed up for you, get the paper work done, and the car is all yours." He shook my hand, handed me the keys, we had a deal.

I wrote up the paper work, he was gone. I made about 1200 off the deal myself. The dealership profited about 5000. That my friend, is how you sell a car. And that is also how you close a girl.

I'll go back and explain why I did everything that I did so you understand.
His buying temperature wasn't there. I had to change something up. Everyone who walks into a dealership is there to buy a car. Girls don't hang out with a guy that they don't want to fuck. Just like people can go to any dealership to buy a car, a girl can go anywhere to get some dick. Getting there is just the first step. You need a good salesman in order to make a deal happen.

I let him go for what he THOUGHT he wanted, what would really get his emotions tingling, and I let him let himself down. I didn't want to show him that car first because I wanted to feel him out. This is something you have to learn how to do with girls. Throw it out there and see how she responds. Some girls you can be really direct with as far as sex goes... Some girls you can't. You have to pump their buying temperature up a bit.
Alright, the reason I did this is that I wanted to build up some suspense. The roller coaster started here. Just because he didn't want that car, doesn't mean he would say no if I found a car that got his balls tingling. Car buying is a very emotional process for people if you do it right as a salesman. If the customer starts thinking logically, it could easily throw something off in the deal. This is why I would always try and close my customers when the were right infront of me. (even if it was the second or third time they would be back, I always wanted it to be the last time for that deal.)

Similarly, you should always be trying to close the girl when she is right infront of you. Be it the first time you met vs. a second or third date. What I noticed was once customers leave, they start to think logically. Same thing goes with girls. Get her emotions pumped up, sleep with her as soon as you can to get her emotionally invested as much as possible, and then make her backwards rationalize as to WHY she slept with you. What I'm saying is really fuck her and then get to know her.
The reason I did all of this was again, buying temperature. I wanted him to really get involved in the process of it. I wanted to get his emotions involved. The suspense of not knowing what "The car for him!" was going to be. I couldn't even imagine what was going through his head when he walked through that door, but I assume he was expecting his dream car... and that was what I showed him. It was sitting there, special, just for him. Away from all the other cars. It was like his "calling" lol. I revved up the engine so he could really hear the power of this MONSTER V8 with roaring through the aftermarket Magnaflo Exhaust. I wanted his balls to tingle and him get a big, rubbery, hard on over this car. It was like teasing him.

Start teasing girls more sexually. Pump them up a little. Get them really going and practically BEGGING to get fucked. Don't be afraid of losing her if she is into it. Just keep the process moving. But don't forget to keep pushing for the close and not tease for too long either. "Going for it" will just seem like "the next thing to do" in the girls eyes because it "feels right"
This was all just showmanship. This is selling the car. You really shouldn't have to sell yourself too much during the point you were at. She was already closed. You just needed to pull the trigger. But again, this was just pumping him up, reinforcing him that he was making the best decision possible. This is when you can get the dirty talk going and really get the girl turned on too. This is where you are selling the "sex" pretty heavy. You just want to make it seem like its all her idea. Make her seem like the horny one that is making YOU make bad decisions. Well, good decisions. But put her into a place where you are telling her "enough."

I'll give you a golden trick... My line I've used EVERY single time when I start to get that resistance like that is "We should stop" but keep going! It drives the girl FUCKING INSANE! She will start grinding harder against my cock, pull me in even closer, whatever that next step will be. When you say "We should stop!" it puts her in the position of the one who is escalating things and you are the one trying to slow things down a little. I don't know if you've figured this out yet... but girls don't like to be told NO.

Now was when I KNEW that I could go for it and he would say yes to anything I put infront of him. I knew he was so emotionally tied into this car, that there was NO chance in hell that he was going to get back into his pathetic little Sunfire and drive off that lot. He NEEDED that GT Mustang.

Now, the reason I waited by the front door for him was so he could not even have the option to turn to his car and say "I'm going to think about it." I knew I had to get him back inside somehow, and he wasn't just going to take off.

You can do the same thing with a girl in this situation. If she is outside, next to her car, ready to leave. Get her back inside somehow. She won't fuck you outside. Even if you have to say something like "Come inside real quick again, I want to show you something." and start walking inside and DON'T FUCKING STOP, she will follow you in. This is leading. You were trying to close this girl in a place where you weren't in a position to close her anymore. The sexual tension wasn't the same once she walked outside. Her buying temperature wasn't there.

Once you have her back inside, then you can start escalating to the close again. Even though it was just you and her in the parking lot, you weren't in a private enough area for her to feel comfortable getting sexual (a place where she could actually say Yes) and you put too much pressure on the close when she wasn't sold on the idea of having sex right then and there.

One thing you've got to learn about girls man, is that they act "in the moment." It's because they are truly emotional creatures. I can't even tell you how many girls I've had tell me "I don't usually sleep with a guy when I first meet them" after we spent the whole previous night fucking each others brains out. They did it because it "felt right." Their emotions were getting pumped up, and pumped up, and pumped up until the point where the only thing left to get them that "next level" of emotional high, was to have sex. They couldn't say no. As I said earlier with an emotional car buyer, it seemed like the "next thing to do."

So all of this...
Is her trying to let you know NICELY that you didn't do something right. Is this saying that she isn't going to end up having sex with you? Not necessarily. But the girl showed up. She was horny. She wanted to get fucked... You just didn't give it to her the way that she wanted that time. If she does hang out with you again, you've got another opportunity. But next time, just don't screw it up. Or if you do screw it up... learn how to fix it.

Don't see any of the way this interaction went as if there is something wrong with you... See it as a learning experience. There was SOMEWHERE that you went wrong. Somewhere her logical mind took over her emotional train of thought and it fucked you up. Keep that emotional roller coaster going and going and going until she eventually gets to the point where she is begging to be fucked. Then give it to her.

I usually don't take time to type of replies like this but I can definitely seen that you have grown since you've joined this forum and feel like you are someone who would appreciate the education like that. Keep it up man. Keep going and learning. You will get good at this... It just takes practice.

This is SO FUCKING AWESOME Majikal!

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I remember when my sales manager told me "Selling a car is exactly like picking up a girl" and its scary how true that statement turned out to be lol

Good post but can everybody stop quoting it, it's taken me about 5mins just to get to the bottom of the page

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@Majikal

Thank you so much brah! Yeah dude I think I know where I fucked things up. It was in a Target parking lot, and we were the only 2 cars there.... it'd be pretty obvious.

However, I really feel like I'm getting better. Before I would shoot myself in the foot by opening my mouth too much. And then I would wonder why I would get attitude and a bitchiness from her. Last time I did more 60's/warped shit. I really did a lot more listening than talking. There was a lot more touching going on then "verbal game". Looking into her eyes with a soft gaze, light smile, blablabla. Her attitude was fucking great. She was the most polite I have ever seen.

And yea I have grown. I'm done with the douche bag phase.

This is the plan for our next date, hopefully Thurs night. Watch a scary movie on my laptop in the backseat of my car. (Lol I know ghetto but I'm saving money!) Then go hot tubbing at some apartments. (We should be the only 2 in the hot tub) There's still some lights and apartments surrounding there, so IDK if I will get her done there.

And to F CLOSE her I'ma take her to some private place in the mountains. We'll go outside and look at the city and w/e happens... happens.

I know she's really insecure about her body, she really hates getting in a swimsuit. (She's not fat but you know how girls are) I might have to compensate and just take her to the secret place in the mountains... watch the movie in the backseat there... and then pull up to the scenic view (Let's assume I park like 30 feet away from the scenic view so we don't get distracted from our scary movie) and do our thanggggggg!

EDIT: Oh and if anyone has any tips on fucking in a car, please share. Do I need to bring a towel or something?