MY story. Old "Natural" turned 180 degrees back



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 23, 2008 7:24 am 
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I "introduced" myself on a kinda of a negative vibe with the age related post. Wasn't really much of an introduction as it was a downer. I kinda came into the party asking why the beer is warm. Apologies.

So anyway. I'm 33 years old(young). I am born and raised in Los Angeles and still live here. I was a "Natural" all my life. I started out early with women, was having sex at 13 with 17 year olds,sex at 18 with 25 year olds,etc....etc.

I was a really good looking kid so that helped. Athletic, tan, green eyes, exotic looking kid, best in every sport, strongest and best fighter,blah blah blah. I didn't have any problems with "women". It came naturally and I basically picked any one I wanted.

This sort of drifted on into my 20's. The looks faded and my game faded a tad, but I was still doing good. I was in the music industry/game for a while too. Being a musician gets womens attention, and if you're not that bad looking, it's a plus. I also consider myself as above average intelligence. That in itself attracted certain types of women. I was also more eccentric and passionate about things, sometimes downright nuts and dangerous, which also attracted some different types.

I've been friends with professionals, thugs,bookies,musicians,bouncers, writers,political activists...you name it. Known all types of people and dated all types of women, every race, every philosophy.

I've probably had sex with about 60 women in my life. Maybe "done stuff" with about 100 or so. Lost count in my 20's. I've dated models, strippers, 10's, crazies, BDSM types. You name it. As far as sexual experience goes, I think I've done most of the stuff younger guys wished. Had threesome situations, and even have been involved in some weird random stuff that you wake up from and say "what the hell did I do last night", feeling like Satan himself was behind you cheering you on.

I've loved women and had my heart broken a couple of times also, so this is about "just sex".

The thing is. I used to be this "natural". Sure I would get nervous and hesitate sometimes but I would always get something going. About 5 years ago I was dating about 5 women at ONE TIME. There were times when one would be exiting the door while another one was driving over. It wasn't my ideal life, as I always wanted to meet "that one", but it was at least fun, and I at least got laid.

So about 6 years ago my life changed. Went through some really hard times which screwed my confidence all up. Back on my feet now but seriously bros, I have been laid about ONCE in the PAST 4 years.

All my skills went down, primarily cuz of my life situation(wont get into detail). But all my skills went BYE BYE. It's been like this for about 4 years, and I know why, lack of confidence.

Anyways, it hurts when you go from getting women,to having nothing. I mean, I seriously have the antidote for attraction now. It's like being cursed.

SO now that I'm back on my feet I'm ready to re learn what use to come natural. It's a BITCH! I never thought that I would have to go back to the drawing board on women. But yes, I am officially now and have been for 5 years an AVERAGE FRUSTRATED CHUMP..I now REPEL women like two matching ends of a magnet. Sure I get flirted with ALL the time. Women love me "as a friend" too. All the big ugly chicks want to take me home with them. All the chicks I'm attracted to that are hot...I leave them alone and make some excuse not to close the deal. I walk away or tell myself that it's not worth it, or that my life isn't "right" yet.

SO I'm here to bounce off ideas from other guys that can point me back to a more desirable mindset. I need to get laid soon, or I think I may crack. We'll see if I go ape shit and drive my car off of a bridge. It's up to you guys to save me. Mayday. Pimp down.

That's my story. Hope it was interesting


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 23, 2008 12:54 pm 
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jaytee....i hear ya. same background as me, near on identical.

my problem is id run out of opportunities on meeting girls (ALL my mates got married) and the days of going out just dried up. I did foresee such, so made IMMEDIATE changes to make sure nothing dried up from the supply end. I went online, and starting daytime action (eg .with retail chicks, chicks off street etc). Cant complain one iota. Life is good.

So, none of that matches with your lack of confidence, and loss of form over last few years, but here is one suggestion, treat it as silly, think about it, then perhaps, just perhaps, give it a go. Perhaps its a little out there, or not by the rules of this 'game'....fck all that man, im telling you as a same age guy with same experience.....it works:

Go to Thailand (or any cheap asian country) and root yourself silly for a few weeks with easy cheap bargirls/hookers/tourists...whatever.
You can treat them like shit, they totally idolise you, and your confidence will become like "king of the world". You'll find your mojo, youll have been social, their is no pressure re sex (as you are getting laid no matter what later on that night), youll be getting back on the bike and practicing your riding style, and when you get back, its honestly like youre a different man. The world is your oyster in regards women.

I have done this once in my life (after a lost love that i let go....) and it worked an absolute treat. Its not the same when you get back, you cant believe you have to work for any woman, but the social skills and confidence returns....it really did work a treat for me.

PM me if u want a chat....we have a lot in common.


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 23, 2008 1:12 pm 
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Thanks man,

BTW the part about "its up to you guys to save me"...thats a joke.

I don't know about hookers and all that..lol. But I do know what you're saying. The problem IS based in confidence though...for me at least. See..the thing is that most of my life I never had to "work" to get chicks to be into me. Most of the time I just sat around, made them laugh, did some off the wall crazy stuff, and they would just be into it. Either that or I would just talk about some deep spiritual stuff or sit around like a fisherman waiting for a bite, and they would just come to me, and we would end up in the bad later that night.

But I'm not some young crazy ass anymore, and the stuff that used to work for me is a remnant of being in my 20's...when I could afford to be "wild". I much more laid back now and reserved,and so I don't really stand out like I did.

It's just weird because I now have to work for it. And if it comes to me I just tell myself that it's not worth the time and I'd rather practice guitar or write songs or go online and read the bullshit and have no outside life. And most of the time I get to picky about a womans PERSONALITY. If she doesn't have the right heart/soul/mind I just view her as not worthy. Trouble is, it's become maybe an excuse for me not to put in the effort. I just realized that recently.

BUt I see that it's hurting me. I never thought I would go this long without a woman LOL. I think if I actively get back into the zone and go out there and get it, I'll be back on the horse soon. It's just that I forgot what to do since I retired from the game. SO now I'm like your average joe just hoping some chick will come along and molest me.

I also notice that I became a "lurker". Just hangin around chicks giving off creepy body language in stores and public places. It's like WOW, what happened to me? It has to stop. I put myself in check about this just recently but I've got to change it.


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mate a lot of its age. im mellow now, i cant stand the dickheads peacocking around the pub etc etc....i just want to pull them aside and tell them the way it really is!! and yeah, im picky and think im above all the effort and wont even bother if i get a cold shoulder or something half the time....
i keep young chicks on the side, they always seem to bring you back to earth when you are feeling old, and i think its a great thing to have. just dumb young fun cute sexually exploring types. maybe thats a start as well, lower the level from the 30yr old HB, and pick up some young slut to start with. that of course would be the end result, its getting their that is of major concern.

seriously, have a think about it. im not going to fill you full of shit about inner game and being motivated and all that beautiful theoretical jargon...u just need to get laid. and getting laid in asia is a very very easy thing, a great thing, and your confidence soars. you then take the new found confidence back home, and start using it in normal life.


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Keep up the good work!


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