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As for hellhound mental masturbation. Duh. Hellhound is by far the worst regular poster on the forum. He spends his time reading misleading abstracts of poorly designed studies and thinks they have any practical application to PUA when of course they do not.
Cough. Cough. Cough. So now your reading comprehension and understanding of statistics is better than the authors of studies with +30 citations to +200 citations, hmm?

I cite scientific studies to help us understand why a particular technique works so well while some do not. Let me lay this out for you as simple as possible:
  • Empirical Evidence + Field Test = WIN

    Empirical Evidence + Reference Field Observation and/or Actual Experiences = WIN
If you're still butt hurt from peak ovulation theory, make a thread in the PUA Lounge so we can discuss it fully well and stop hijacking other people's threads in the General Questions section which are focused on certain topics that the OPs' want help on.

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1) What does the citations have anything to do with statistics?
Simple. When the statistical results are significant and the methodology is sound, other researchers use the study to support the arguments in their own studies.
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2) You know, there is an entire body of reserach for this:
That's how bored university researchers justify their paychecks or get extra money to buy that second vacation log cabin or buy a new boat. Sometimes, it's the academic community equivalent of my-penis-is-bigger-than-every-one-of-you-around-here argument.
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Amazing what Google can find :) Always important to pay attention to the actual facts and not the cover of the book (or how popular it may be).
Absolutely. I direct readers to the abstracts of studies that used to be free (I have those free copies btw for several years now) but are now for sale out of courtesy to the researchers who made their studies from privately funded institutions or financed by individuals.

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whatever hellhound. I have already ripped to shreds two of the most cited and popular research pieces on ovulation. Keep believing what you want, but most of us here who actually get women know most of these pieces you reference are worthless loads of crap. (Not to mention many have generally misleading abstracts trying to pretend they arrived at some actual conclusion when in fact their studies amounted to nothing) The only reason I even care is because I post here, believe it or not, to help people, and I would be doing a disservice if I did not call you out regularly for the misleading (at best) garbage you post on this forum.

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all you need to do is make her think that there is an emotional connection which most girls will think there is 99% of the time

here's how you bs your way into one if there isn't one already


- believe that you have one
- prolonged eye contact in every conversation
- prolonged physical contract
- bs about interests (say that you like ed sheeran, angus and julia stone etc.)


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whatever hellhound. I have already ripped to shreds two of the most cited and popular research pieces on ovulation. Keep believing what you want, but most of us here who actually get women know most of these pieces you reference are worthless loads of crap. (Not to mention many have generally misleading abstracts trying to pretend they arrived at some actual conclusion when in fact their studies amounted to nothing) The only reason I even care is because I post here, believe it or not, to help people, and I would be doing a disservice if I did not call you out regularly for the misleading (at best) garbage you post on this forum.
The only thing that you've ripped with your written flatulence is your own asshole.
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Ugh. can you stop with this ovulation shit already. (1) it's hard to tell if a woman is ovulating, and (2) the actual differences in their behaviors are not nearly as large as you lead people to believe.

To the OP: This has happened to me probably 30+ times. I either ignore the comment, laugh it off, or say "of course not, I'm a good boy" or "I'm a virgin" ... it usually doesn't matter. I have REGULARLY talked about sex openly on a first date, had girls say they would never sleep with a guy on the first date and won't sleep with me tonight and they do it anyway. You just have to basically ignore it, be completely unfazed. Many times I have even convinced women to sleep with me on the first date using words and logic, believe it or not. The key is NOT to be sleazy until you are confident that you are at least getting them back to a sex location.
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Make a peak ovulation theory thread in the PUA Lounge. It's plainly disrespectful and discourteous to be harping on a different topic when the OP in that thread wanted answers to his questions.

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 28, 2013 9:15 am 
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1) What does the citations have anything to do with statistics?

2) You know, there is an entire body of reserach for this:
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This article reviews the (mis)use of statistical tests in neuropsychology research studies published
in the Archives of Clinical Neuropsychology in the years 1990–1992 and 1996–2000, and 2001–2004,
prior to, commensurate with the internet-based and paper-based release, and following the release of
the American Psychological Association’s Task Force on Statistical Inference. The authors focused on
four statistical errors: inappropriate use of null hypothesis tests, inappropriate use of P-values, neglect
of effect size, and inflation of Type I error rates. Despite the recommendations of the Task Force on
Statistical Inference published in 1999, the present study recorded instances of these statistical errors
both pre- and post-APA’s report, with only the reporting of effect size increasing after the release of the
report. Neuropsychologists involved in empirical research should be better aware of the limitations and
boundaries of hypothesis testing as well as the theoretical aspects of research methodology.
To illustrate why citations matter, I'm providing some images.

The one showing P Schatz from Saint Joseph's University only has 10 citations while one of my favorite researchers on ovulation, Karl Grammer, is usually cited by a lot more researchers.

Grammer teaches out of University of Vienna, one of the top universities in the world. On the other hand, Saint Joseph's University has no rank at all in North America although it apparently ranks high in a US newspaper.

The University of Vienna has already produced at least 5 Nobel laureates. If you read Schatz's methodology a bit more carefully, it isn't as sound or tight as most Grammer studies.

Schatz is basically saying, "Hey dudes. My penis is bigger than every one around you here." Meanwhile, all of the big names in science, totally ignore Schatz's written flatulence.

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Give it up already hellhound. You post a bunch of study abstracts and even when I go into the actual numbers and actual text from the authors themselves saying their results were 'modest' you conveniently ignore and resort to name calling and relinking to something where I used bad grammar to illustrate a point that I then clarified 100x in the thread. Keep posting studies, it is highly entertaining to see what idiotic shit you actually think applies to pick up. It is obvious to those of us who actually get women you have probably never been with a woman who is not a prostitute in your life.

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I havent read anything on a womans ovulation cycyle but I can tell you with absoulute certainty( from my own experiences) that women become super horny a few days before mentstration and well into menstration. I've expereienced this many times in my life,with many different type of women. I've always been curious about this phenomenon but have never really looked into it. I'm not the resarch type.

I know for a fact this is true, I've seen it way too many times. Infact I seen it the other day with a female friend ( same social circle) that I fuck every once in a while. A group of us were out for an afternoon drink on a patio. The woman that I am referring to, is not shy at all about her sexuality. In this particular case, I was standing by the table and she was sitting. I caught her staring at my package over and over, I called her on it. She still counldn't stop looking at it. she was getting flush and literally looked like a feening crack head. She offered to drive me home, with direct intentions for sex. If I didn't already know this women well, her aggressive behaviour may of been a bit of a turn off as it was overwhelming.

Anyways, this woman would never give me a blowjob in the past, it was always just sex, so seeing her in this state, I thought it would be the best time to bring up the blow job reluctance. I said, you get no sex unless you first give me that blow job I've been asking for ( I've always wondered about her skills or lack of) She was so worked up that she agreed to give me a sample in her car on the way home. Even when she was driving ( pre blow job sample) she still couldn't take her eyes off my crotch. I seen this and literally whipped my cock out as she drove. She was soo hungry for it that she began to drive eratically and pulled over in the middle of a suburb and in the day light. She started to blow me and it lasted for about 20 seconds ( sample) She had to get home to her son and we didn't have time to have sex but we made plans too meet up later that night ( the sample was very good, so I was game)

Long story short, we never ended up meeting that night but i messaged her two days later to hook up for sex, but it was too late she had already begun to menstrate.

The reason I bring up this particular case is because she was over the top horny for me and because of our history, she was not holding back and I got to see this effect in full force.

I've also had experiences with women that were super horny for sex, and after the foreplay, just before sex, they'd realize that their menstation had actually began. In some of these cases the women were so worked up they would beg for sex( i dont fuck women that are bleeding) offer to do it in the shower, or would claim they don't bleed heavy.....etc etc. This effect is so strong it's turned proper women into horny, drooling sluts.



Perhaps you can back this up with some scientifc data Hellhound? I'd love to know the physiological and scientific explaination.

Thanks,


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I havent read anything on a womans ovulation cycyle but I can tell you with absoulute certainty( from my own experiences) that women become super horny a few days before mentstration and well into menstration. I've expereienced this many times in my life,with many different type of women. I've always been curious about this phenomenon but have never really looked into it. I'm not the resarch type.

I know for a fact this is true, I've seen it way too many times. Infact I seen it the other day with a female friend ( same social circle) that I fuck every once in a while. A group of us were out for an afternoon drink on a patio. The woman that I am referring to, is not shy at all about her sexuality. In this particular case, I was standing by the table and she was sitting. I caught her staring at my package over and over, I called her on it. She still counldn't stop looking at it. she was getting flush and literally looked like a feening crack head. She offered to drive me home, with direct intentions for sex. If I didn't already know this women well, her aggressive behaviour may of been a bit of a turn off as it was overwhelming.

Anyways, this woman would never give me a blowjob in the past, it was always just sex, so seeing her in this state, I thought it would be the best time to bring up the blow job reluctance. I said, you get no sex unless you first give me that blow job I've been asking for ( I've always wondered about her skills or lack of) She was so worked up that she agreed to give me a sample in her car on the way home. Even when she was driving ( pre blow job sample) she still couldn't take her eyes off my crotch. I seen this and literally whipped my cock out as she drove. She was soo hungry for it that she began to drive eratically and pulled over in the middle of a suburb and in the day light. She started to blow me and it lasted for about 20 seconds ( sample) She had to get home to her son and we didn't have time to have sex but we made plans too meet up later that night ( the sample was very good, so I was game)

Long story short, we never ended up meeting that night but i messaged her two days later to hook up for sex, but it was too late she had already begun to menstrate.

The reason I bring up this particular case is because she was over the top horny for me and because of our history, she was not holding back and I got to see this effect in full force.

I've also had experiences with women that were super horny for sex, and after the foreplay, just before sex, they'd realize that their menstation had actually began. In some of these cases the women were so worked up they would beg for sex( i dont fuck women that are bleeding) offer to do it in the shower, or would claim they don't bleed heavy.....etc etc. This effect is so strong it's turned proper women into horny, drooling sluts.



Perhaps you can back this up with some scientifc data Hellhound? I'd love to know the physiological and scientific explaination.

Thanks,


SA.

^ this is very true specially with my relationship i notice my gf getting extremely horny and even ask me to go to swinclubs and out of the norm stuff, during the ovulation, the hormones go crazy...

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I havent read anything on a womans ovulation cycyle but I can tell you with absoulute certainty( from my own experiences) that women become super horny a few days before mentstration and well into menstration. I've expereienced this many times in my life,with many different type of women. I've always been curious about this phenomenon but have never really looked into it. I'm not the resarch type.

I know for a fact this is true, I've seen it way too many times. Infact I seen it the other day with a female friend ( same social circle) that I fuck every once in a while. A group of us were out for an afternoon drink on a patio. The woman that I am referring to, is not shy at all about her sexuality. In this particular case, I was standing by the table and she was sitting. I caught her staring at my package over and over, I called her on it. She still counldn't stop looking at it. she was getting flush and literally looked like a feening crack head. She offered to drive me home, with direct intentions for sex. If I didn't already know this women well, her aggressive behaviour may of been a bit of a turn off as it was overwhelming.

Anyways, this woman would never give me a blowjob in the past, it was always just sex, so seeing her in this state, I thought it would be the best time to bring up the blow job reluctance. I said, you get no sex unless you first give me that blow job I've been asking for ( I've always wondered about her skills or lack of) She was so worked up that she agreed to give me a sample in her car on the way home. Even when she was driving ( pre blow job sample) she still couldn't take her eyes off my crotch. I seen this and literally whipped my cock out as she drove. She was soo hungry for it that she began to drive eratically and pulled over in the middle of a suburb and in the day light. She started to blow me and it lasted for about 20 seconds ( sample) She had to get home to her son and we didn't have time to have sex but we made plans too meet up later that night ( the sample was very good, so I was game)

Long story short, we never ended up meeting that night but i messaged her two days later to hook up for sex, but it was too late she had already begun to menstrate.

The reason I bring up this particular case is because she was over the top horny for me and because of our history, she was not holding back and I got to see this effect in full force.

I've also had experiences with women that were super horny for sex, and after the foreplay, just before sex, they'd realize that their menstation had actually began. In some of these cases the women were so worked up they would beg for sex( i dont fuck women that are bleeding) offer to do it in the shower, or would claim they don't bleed heavy.....etc etc. This effect is so strong it's turned proper women into horny, drooling sluts.



Perhaps you can back this up with some scientifc data Hellhound? I'd love to know the physiological and scientific explaination.

Thanks,


SA.

^ this is very true specially with my relationship i notice my gf getting extremely horny and even ask me to go to swinclubs and out of the norm stuff, during the ovulation, the hormones go crazy...
Ovulation does not occur during menstruation nor generally immediately before or immediately after .. if anything sexaddict911s post counters the ovulation claims of hellhound.

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8/28/13 1:53 PM 14 seconds ago

Me: babe is there a time of the month you get extremely more horny? they are arguing in the forums?? 1:48 PM
wifi: No, but used to get a week before period. 1:49 PM
Me: explain 1:50 PM
Me: you are contradicting yourself bitch 1:51 PM
wifi: During the time u are ovulating, u try to have baby, so then if u dont get pregnant during ovulation, u shed ur uterine lining and thats what is ur period blood.. 1:52 PM
wifi: So a week before u bleed..u get that way bc ur hormone levels rise in anticipation for conception 1:53 PM


Reason for the bit of contradiction is that she does not get her period anymore with her new birth control.

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ovulation usually occurs 12-16 days before period... so looks like your wifi is also contradicting hellhound as well.

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Me: the dude is saying ovulation occurs 12-16 weeks before period?? when was the time frame you got horny?? Be more specific, help the virgins 2:07 PM
Me: hurry up i got shit to do... 2:08 PM
wifi: Idk. im busy.16 wks is bs 2:13 PM

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Me: the dude is saying ovulation occurs 12-16 weeks before period?? when was the time frame you got horny?? Be more specific, help the virgins 2:07 PM
Me: hurry up i got shit to do... 2:08 PM
wifi: Idk. im busy.16 wks is bs 2:13 PM
12-16 days bro, obviously not weeks. Look it up, that is pretty well established fact.

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