Went to mall to work on my daygame.

This always happens but i wind up choding around for a while, bailing on approaches, or not approaching . While choding i walk past a gorgeous girl. I see that she goes into a store, I decide i have to approach. I chode around for another 10min then go into the store, i'm nervous as fuck but i've decided i have to approach. I Bail on my first approach……then she walks back towards me.

Hey, I had to stop you because you're adorable. I introduce myself. So, tell me… run cashmere sweater routine (style). She says go with the lager size, i say i like that answer because it shows confidence. I told my friend to go with the lager size also, but cover the bases by saying they were out of smalls. OK we've been talking for 5min… it's time for the hug test. (hold arms out) she gets weirded out…. i have to see if you can hug worth a damn, so you better give it your all. She says no… ok then lets thumb wrestle for it. She says she has to go find her mom but good luck with the size. eject.

Outside another girl walks towards me…

Hey, I had to stop you because you're adorable. I introduce myself. So, tell me… run cashmere sweater routine (style). So, i'm about to leave but i'd like to continue this conversation. Do you like bahamma bucks? (trying to plant something for day 2).

She says yes.

Here give me your number.

She says ok, wait let me get this call. (Talks on phone, hangs up quickly)…. let me get your number.

I give it to her and say… so if you aren't going to text just say so now. She says no i'll text you. eject.

There are so many things wrong with these sets i don't know where to start.

Then while walking around i decide i'll approach one more girl then take off. Thats when security comes up to me. Tells me they have receive several complaints from girls that i was trying to get their numbers, and making them feel uncomfortable. I say i've only talked to two and asked one for her number. They insist that several people have complained and other security guards and seen me so the best thing to do would be for me to leave. I say well it's not my intention to make anyone feel uncomfortable so i'll take off.

Bam kicked out of the mall for sarging two girls.

I take off head to b&n and have two decent sets.

B&n parking lot.

Hey! as she gets into car. She gets out to see whats up. From across the car… i saw you earlier but was talking to my brother and couldn't say hi, but i had to stop you because your adorable, and you strike me as friendly person.

She says i'd like to think so.

I know it's a bit weird to talk to strangers but i'd love to continue this conversation at a better time. What would be the best way to do that?

She says In 4 months… i leave to paris tomorrow.

We chat about paris, I tell her were to go, suggest a few things, she asks about me why i'm in town, i tease her on packing too much stuff. i tell her instead of packing she should go out with me. She actually considers it but declines. I get her FB, chat a bit more and eject.

Inside B&N

Blonde studying

I pull a chair over and sit down. I'm sorry i'm so late… i was talking to by brother for ever. After a pause i introduce myself and say i had to come by and say hi.

she smiles and introduces herself.

I can't say long and don't want to interrupt your studying… what are you studying. We talk about nursing, a and p, then i ask for a book recommendation but nothing to verbose or erudie cause i've only been reading for 3 months.

We chat about children's books

She asks questions about me, i show some youtube clips of me at my last job (should count as DHV)

I get her phone number and after a while eject.

I answered one of your night game field reports and I will answer one more.

Try to get to the point where you are not using the same memorized lines and routines over and over. You are approaching so start to train yourself to be more natural. You most likely sound rehearsed and scripted to these girls. You got kicked out of the mall b/c one of the girls, probably the second one, got a creepy vibe from you. That's not necessarily your fault, but you need a lot of practice. This stuff you've read online or in books you are doing is not for you at all whatsoever in these situations you seem to be getting in. Also, stop lying about talking to your brother unless that's the truth. If you get in a habit of lying, eventually you are going to find one who sort of likes you initially but will catch you lying and be done with ya.

Also you have to build a lot more attraction before asking for a number. That's not going to be after a couple sentences like the second girl. It sounds like you are kind of badgering her to contact you and that's when she got creeped out and told security. Of course security will say it's several girls complaining so you won't know exactly who. That's if you see her again, you won't have the chance to say "why did you tell security". It's for her safety.

The first interaction is awkward when you try to do this hug test. If she reacted how you described after talking 5 minutes, you read the interaction/situation very poorly.

Your 3rd interaction you are trying to cut it too short, then take off with it again which is awkward. You are trying to eject for no reason before the conversation has a chance to go anywhere. Women aren't going to view you as a guy they want to talk to for a couple sentences, then meet up and talk later. It simply doesn't work that way unless no one else ever talks to her. If they look decent, everyone talks to them and most of them do a better job then you are doing. No, she never considered going out with you she just wanted you to think she was considering it. Why you are suggesting going out at that point when she says she has to pack, I have no clue.

I guess try to pull something from your memory of the conversation of the last girl about nursing or books, try a text specifically about that and see what happens. But like I said in the other thread, it sounds like you are aiming for women out of your league. Either most these women don't find you attractive, or your game is too scripted and awkward or your too nervous. If these women look like something you'd see in a cheap porn mag, your not close to getting that right now and you need to be looking at bigger more average looking women and see if you can upgrade from there. I do think as long as you don't get discouraged and learn trends in their behavior and start doing your own thing instead of someone else's, you will be ok.. At least after you left the mall you went to the book store and kept trying. Another decent place is Hobby Lobby.

Ya it would be great to get to the point that i'm a natural. Thats why i'm approaching in the first place.

The opener is "sorry, i'm late i got stuck doing x" like stuck in traffic. I just happened to have been talking to my brother so i used that instead. I've always wanted to try that opener and it worked fairly well.

On the third interaction - she was in her car about to leave and got out because i said "hey". I was pacing her reality... is there a better way to acknowledge the fact that shes busy, doesn't this count as a false time constraint even though its about her and not me?

From there we have about a 15 min conversation which flowed easily. Kinda like when someone says something interesting and you get sidetracked. I asked her out because.... she's leaving the next day. So, it's now or wait 4 months. Seemed like the confident thing to do.

So your advice is sound less scripted, be less awkward, and approach less attractive girls? I completely disagree with the last one. So lets talk about the first two.... um.... how? The only thing i see is to keep approaching and hope it gets sorted. If i was already a natural... i won't be working on my game.

You want to talk about the 3rd interaction, ok.

First of all, just reading your first few sentences makes me nervous as hell.

You say "I know it's weird to talk to strangers" You are putting yourself behind the 8-ball, basically calling yourself a stranger. Most girls as kids were told "don't talk to strangers".Lessons like that sticks with them forever subconsiously. So don't be a stranger or call yourself one or call the situation weird to get it started. Your the one making it weird almost as if you are a creep or stalker.

I don't like your line about talking to your brother. Is this talking on the phone to your brother? If you are lying and one decides she wants to play 20 questions(which many smarter ones will do if they are somewhat interested in you to that point), she will be turned off. You'll run in to a few like that if you keep going, particularly the older they get. Most likely, your start up line has already turned that one off so she cares nothing about the talking to your brother line, or if it's a lie or a line or routine or what, it's going through one ear and out the other. If you had a 15 minute conversation, I'm not sure how the hell you don't get a phone number out of that. But you got FB so maybe you can talk to her on there. If she was actually going to Paris and you know about Paris, I can see where the conversation might have flowed a bit. But I think you blew 15 minutes of time when you couldn't read the fact she wasn't interested what so ever. Also, what about her makes her seem like a "nice" person? is it her smile? did you see her smile before you suggested that idea? is it the way she dresses? is it the way she walks? She didn't seem like a nice person. You were blindly complimenting her b/c you thought she was cute and you wanted her to accept a conversation with you. Error.

I don't know how to answer some of your other questions. The sentence structure doesn't make sense. My best advice is to practice opening more than women you think you want to fuck and try to build some social circles. 5 fat girl numbers might produce you a decent looking woman out of a social circle if a few fat girls likes you as a friend. Maybe you can recruit a decent wing man in your area too. I have a buddy I run with every now and then who can approach any woman. But I bet I've seen him approach at least 500 over 3 year period and he's never sniffed a pussy out of pick up approach b/c he's just real awkward with women and approaches women out of his league. His bread and butter is social circles, online, and lesser attractive women or black women (he's white)

The way I would open in that situation is say "does your car have a v6" When she answers, you have a chance to gauge if she wants to continue the conversation. You can follow with "how long have you had it" or "where did you get it". If you want to throw in your direct stuff after you get a good conversation flowing then that's up to you. You could interchange any of those 3 questions as your opener. Right now you are just creating awkward situations for you and the girls