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A Good Person
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Characterizing my vernacular as ghetto is racist.

1.) You would have to live as a hermit to get away from bullies and untrustworthy people, but as I said if someone won't respect you cut them out of your life.

2.) My thinking is not convoluted, illogical nor nonsensical. A man's capability to deal with respect is comparable to a house being able to stand in a storm. A some point in its construction the structure can't take a breeze and at other points it can take the worse. However, if you expose the home to the elements long enough its starts to break down. Sometimes you need respect sometimes you don't, but you should always protect yourself.

Furthermore, even if something has hurt you can still act like it hasn't and in the military they would refer to that as maintaining a strong bearing.

3.) Your reputation affects your quality of life. Its not an outer obsession or an ego thing. Its an end in itself.

4.) If you love yourself you shouldn't let people disrespect you without consequence.
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Characterizing my vernacular as ghetto is racist.
I'm Mexican dude... I know the world you're talking about I live in that neighborhood and yes I still see it as a waste of energy... the whole "money, power, respect" are marketed by guys lusting for it... guys who don't talk about don't have to because they already naturally have it by giving others their due respect... and power is nothing really anyways...
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1.) You would have to live as a hermit to get away from bullies and untrustworthy people, but as I said if someone won't respect you cut them out of your life.
BULL SHIT.... You could just move away from the current issues your life surrounds you with... I don't have that issue and I live in a rough as fuck neighborhood... people get their respect as soon as I meet them... and because of this they give it right back... If someone is untrustworthy (which is easy to figure out) then I simply don't associate with them...
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2.) My thinking is not convoluted, illogical nor nonsensical. A man's capability to deal with respect is comparable to a house being able to stand in a storm. A some point in its construction the structure can't take a breeze and at other points it can take the worse. However, if you expose the home to the elements long enough its starts to break down. Sometimes you need respect sometimes you don't, but you should always protect yourself.
It's incredibly convoluted you said that you need respect then claim it's not outer based... how is needing respect from other people NOT outer based? It's very rational in certain environments such as a gang environment... or a poor environment where you don't have shit else but the respect of others I suppose.... YOU SHOULD ALWAYS RESPECT OTHERS UNTIL THEY EARN DISRESPECT... there is no sometimes about it...
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Furthermore, even if something has hurt you can still act like it hasn't and in the military they would refer to that as maintaining a strong bearing.
I allow people to affect me... by my conditioning to that behavior... no one effects me without me allowing it... that is basic... The only pain others who aren't my friends, family, folks I care about can give me is physical and I can protect myself so this isn't a worry of mine....
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3.) Your reputation affects your quality of life. Its not an outer obsession or an ego thing. Its an end in itself.
Your quality of life is but an opinion so no... that's simply not true... A man with nothing may feel perfectly happy while a man with everything may be unhappy... which would you rather be? Your reputation affects your ego... basic dude... don't argue about something you clearly don't understand... it simply makes you appear foolish.

The ego I've referred to is you basing your value on that of others... such as your social value relating to your own value... the ego is your need for validation from others... and yes respect is a form of validation... The ego is your need for attention from others (such as you mentioning women weeping for you)... I can go on and on about it but here is a great article I wrote that may help you: http://truecoreselfconfidence.com/my-fa ... g-the-ego/

Here is another one: http://deoxy.org/egofalse.htm

I'd recommend not responding about the ego until you've read those articles otherwise you'll just continue to appear ignorant...
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4.) If you love yourself you shouldn't let people disrespect you without consequence.
Loving yourself is not needing the respect of others... loving yourself is unconditional and unrelated to respect or anything else... loving yourself is a portion of self-esteem... self-esteem is a constant not a variable based on respect or anything else... you should never love yourself because of how others feel about you... you should love yourself without consequence....

I never feel disrespected by other people... that's the thing... I don't give people the power to feel they can disrespect me... The greatest power of all is the ability to give up all power... and ironically it gives you more power than you have ever had.... that's a basic old school philosophy that seems to be a big part of what we are talking about...

Honestly I think you should do a lot more research before lecturing people... I feel you are a bit above your head in this argument and the fact that you don't even realize it makes it worse...

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Someone who is "high value" doesn't "demand" respect. He earns it by respecting others as much as he respects himself.

He doesn't worry about being understood as he is more concerned about understanding others.

The "gangster" mentality is what holds people back like 50 Cent in the business world where he "demands respect." If he would let that street mentality go, he would become even more successful than he already is.
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There's no research necessarily. If you apply this to your life it will work. If you don't then move on, but I rest on what I said.

I don't know if people in the ghetto lust for power or not. That's kind of a large generalization. I do know if you felt powerless it would be reasonable to want empowerment to have more control of your life.

Once you start running you're going to always have to run. You shouldn't run from people. You should face them. Cowards run. I could not imagine any man worth anything running from disrespect or taking it like its nothing.

If you don't think people and situations can't hurt your feelings unless you allow it then you are lying to yourself. Really that's pride stopping you from seeing your vulnerability.

Your reputation affects your quality of life. How people associate with you and treat you, how your family treats you. The friends you have, the girls that won't to date you, people trusting you , and even the jobs you can get depend on your reputation. If you're saying you don't care how people treat you I think that's unrealistic.

Loving yourself also means treating yourself properly and allowing others to treat you any kind of way is not loving yourself.

Your Ego is simply your self-image. If things affect you then you have a fragile ego. If things don't affect you then you have a secure ego. If your ego is incongruent with your current life then you have a big ego, but nothing is wrong it that because you can use a big ego to achieve great things.

I don't know why you can understand that whether you can take disrespect or not is dependent upon your inner strength. If you are strong emotionally you can deal with disrespect. If you are not strong emotionally you can't deal with disrespect. Becoming emotionally strong is a process not simply a choice. So sometimes you need respect and other times you don't.

Look, there are a million pyschological theories and they contradict. If you don't like a certain style then say it, but don't try to use science to merely buttress your personal opinion. Don't cite some source and then start slinging mud at me. If you're so humble you need to accept diversity of opinion.


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There's no research necessarily. If you apply this to your life it will work. If you don't then move on, but I rest on what I said.

I don't know if people in the ghetto lust for power or not. That's kind of a large generalization. I do know if you felt powerless it would be reasonable to want empowerment to have more control of your life.

Once you start running you're going to always have to run. You shouldn't run from people. You should face them. Cowards run. I could not imagine any man worth anything running from disrespect or taking it like its nothing.

If you don't think people and situations can't hurt your feelings unless you allow it then you are lying to yourself. Really that's pride stopping you from seeing your vulnerability.

Your reputation affects your quality of life. How people associate with you and treat you, how your family treats you. The friends you have, the girls that won't to date you, people trusting you , and even the jobs you can get depend on your reputation. If you're saying you don't care how people treat you I think that's unrealistic.

Loving yourself also means treating yourself properly and allowing others to treat you any kind of way is not loving yourself.

Your Ego is simply your self-image. If things affect you then you have a fragile ego. If things don't affect you then you have a secure ego. If your ego is incongruent with your current life then you have a big ego, but nothing is wrong it that because you can use a big ego to achieve great things.

I don't know why you can understand that whether you can take disrespect or not is dependent upon your inner strength. If you are strong emotionally you can deal with disrespect. If you are not strong emotionally you can't deal with disrespect. Becoming emotionally strong is a process not simply a choice. So sometimes you need respect and other times you don't.

Look, there are a million pyschological theories and they contradict. If you don't like a certain style then say it, but don't try to use science to merely buttress your personal opinion. Don't cite some source and then start slinging mud at me. If you're so humble you need to accept diversity of opinion.

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There's no research necessarily. If you apply this to your life it will work. If you don't then move on, but I rest on what I said.

I don't know if people in the ghetto lust for power or not. That's kind of a large generalization. I do know if you felt powerless it would be reasonable to want empowerment to have more control of your life.

Once you start running you're going to always have to run. You shouldn't run from people. You should face them. Cowards run. I could not imagine any man worth anything running from disrespect or taking it like its nothing.

If you don't think people and situations can't hurt your feelings unless you allow it then you are lying to yourself. Really that's pride stopping you from seeing your vulnerability.

Your reputation affects your quality of life. How people associate with you and treat you, how your family treats you. The friends you have, the girls that won't to date you, people trusting you , and even the jobs you can get depend on your reputation. If you're saying you don't care how people treat you I think that's unrealistic.

Loving yourself also means treating yourself properly and allowing others to treat you any kind of way is not loving yourself.

Your Ego is simply your self-image. If things affect you then you have a fragile ego. If things don't affect you then you have a secure ego. If your ego is incongruent with your current life then you have a big ego, but nothing is wrong it that because you can use a big ego to achieve great things.

I don't know why you can understand that whether you can take disrespect or not is dependent upon your inner strength. If you are strong emotionally you can deal with disrespect. If you are not strong emotionally you can't deal with disrespect. Becoming emotionally strong is a process not simply a choice. So sometimes you need respect and other times you don't.

Look, there are a million pyschological theories and they contradict. If you don't like a certain style then say it, but don't try to use science to merely buttress your personal opinion. Don't cite some source and then start slinging mud at me. If you're so humble you need to accept diversity of opinion.

You're wrong I don't need to read you so I didn't...

that's what I got out of your first sentence... basically you look like quite ignorant and no since you chose to not read and catch up on the argument I'm just going to allow you to continue to look quite foolish... and no I'm not going to read what you did because it's a waste of time to argue with someone who is quite uneducated on a topic then have him tell me to listen to him when he refuses the same courtesy.... you've been quite disrespectful to be honest by not participating in a two way discussion... where as I've actually looking at shit from your perspective....

That was very disrespectful by the way... i gave you your respect I expect the same... I guess I should demand your respect... give me my respect and go read that as I asked...

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There's no research necessarily. If you apply this to your life it will work. If you don't then move on, but I rest on what I said.

I don't know if people in the ghetto lust for power or not. That's kind of a large generalization. I do know if you felt powerless it would be reasonable to want empowerment to have more control of your life.

Once you start running you're going to always have to run. You shouldn't run from people. You should face them. Cowards run. I could not imagine any man worth anything running from disrespect or taking it like its nothing.

If you don't think people and situations can't hurt your feelings unless you allow it then you are lying to yourself. Really that's pride stopping you from seeing your vulnerability.

Your reputation affects your quality of life. How people associate with you and treat you, how your family treats you. The friends you have, the girls that won't to date you, people trusting you , and even the jobs you can get depend on your reputation. If you're saying you don't care how people treat you I think that's unrealistic.

Loving yourself also means treating yourself properly and allowing others to treat you any kind of way is not loving yourself.

Your Ego is simply your self-image. If things affect you then you have a fragile ego. If things don't affect you then you have a secure ego. If your ego is incongruent with your current life then you have a big ego, but nothing is wrong it that because you can use a big ego to achieve great things.

I don't know why you can understand that whether you can take disrespect or not is dependent upon your inner strength. If you are strong emotionally you can deal with disrespect. If you are not strong emotionally you can't deal with disrespect. Becoming emotionally strong is a process not simply a choice. So sometimes you need respect and other times you don't.

Look, there are a million pyschological theories and they contradict. If you don't like a certain style then say it, but don't try to use science to merely buttress your personal opinion. Don't cite some source and then start slinging mud at me. If you're so humble you need to accept diversity of opinion.

You're wrong I don't need to read you so I didn't...

that's what I got out of your first sentence... basically you look like quite ignorant and no since you chose to not read and catch up on the argument I'm just going to allow you to continue to look quite foolish... and no I'm not going to read what you did because it's a waste of time to argue with someone who is quite uneducated on a topic then have him tell me to listen to him when he refuses the same courtesy.... you've been quite disrespectful to be honest by not participating in a two way discussion... where as I've actually looking at shit from your perspective....

That was very disrespectful by the way... i gave you your respect I expect the same... I guess I should demand your respect... give me my respect and go read that as I asked...

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You say I'm disrespecting you but you're the one calling me names like "uneducated," "foolish" "ignorant"...really thats how you act when someone says something you don't like. Way to be unaffected!
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All arguments aside, the reason why people are taking exception to you is you come on here on this forum out of nowhere and start lecturing us as if we're all noob virgins on things we've all experienced probably a lot more times than you have. Getting respect is just like having a sweet ass girl; it's a bonus, but it's not the reason why we get out of bed every morning. You haven't earned respect on here because you don't have common decency and manners.

If you were truly secure and confident, I could call you every single racist name in the book and you would remain unaffected. The fact that you felt slighted by something I said which was not racist shows how insecure you truly are. Vic is Mexican, I am Asian. I can't speak for him, but I got over the racism thing long before I hit high school. I let guys call me Jackie Chan, Bruce Lee, Daniel-san etc. and I didn't call them out for it. They disrespected me and I just shrugged my shoulders and said "dont care". My social status didn't go down, I was no less successful with girls because I just let it slide and they stopped saying shit because they weren't getting the butthurt reaction they wanted. The attitude of "I don't give a fuck" is far more attractive than the thug who starts shit with every guy who makes the slightest comment against him.
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There's no research necessarily. If you apply this to your life it will work. If you don't then move on, but I rest on what I said.

I don't know if people in the ghetto lust for power or not. That's kind of a large generalization. I do know if you felt powerless it would be reasonable to want empowerment to have more control of your life.

Once you start running you're going to always have to run. You shouldn't run from people. You should face them. Cowards run. I could not imagine any man worth anything running from disrespect or taking it like its nothing.

If you don't think people and situations can't hurt your feelings unless you allow it then you are lying to yourself. Really that's pride stopping you from seeing your vulnerability.

Your reputation affects your quality of life. How people associate with you and treat you, how your family treats you. The friends you have, the girls that won't to date you, people trusting you , and even the jobs you can get depend on your reputation. If you're saying you don't care how people treat you I think that's unrealistic.

Loving yourself also means treating yourself properly and allowing others to treat you any kind of way is not loving yourself.

Your Ego is simply your self-image. If things affect you then you have a fragile ego. If things don't affect you then you have a secure ego. If your ego is incongruent with your current life then you have a big ego, but nothing is wrong it that because you can use a big ego to achieve great things.

I don't know why you can understand that whether you can take disrespect or not is dependent upon your inner strength. If you are strong emotionally you can deal with disrespect. If you are not strong emotionally you can't deal with disrespect. Becoming emotionally strong is a process not simply a choice. So sometimes you need respect and other times you don't.

Look, there are a million pyschological theories and they contradict. If you don't like a certain style then say it, but don't try to use science to merely buttress your personal opinion. Don't cite some source and then start slinging mud at me. If you're so humble you need to accept diversity of opinion.

You're wrong I don't need to read you so I didn't...

that's what I got out of your first sentence... basically you look like quite ignorant and no since you chose to not read and catch up on the argument I'm just going to allow you to continue to look quite foolish... and no I'm not going to read what you did because it's a waste of time to argue with someone who is quite uneducated on a topic then have him tell me to listen to him when he refuses the same courtesy.... you've been quite disrespectful to be honest by not participating in a two way discussion... where as I've actually looking at shit from your perspective....

That was very disrespectful by the way... i gave you your respect I expect the same... I guess I should demand your respect... give me my respect and go read that as I asked...

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You say I'm disrespecting you but you're the one calling me names like "uneducated," "foolish" "ignorant"...really thats how you act when someone says something you don't like. Way to be unaffected!
Those are not names... those are descriptions of your current situation and behavior... you're not your behavior... I'm sorry that you took it like that... That's how I speak in person as well... only difference is my vocal tone and body language people realize that it is a criticism of their behavior not name calling... It's also in the forum rules that you should be able to take criticism... You're taking this personal it's not... I have zero investment emotionally in this discussion I'm simply observing your behavior... you're blindly arguing a point you don't understand... (the ego)...

The reason I wrote you were disrespectful was to illustrate a point... it's stupid ... sorry I thought you'd see what I was trying to do...

I apologize that you took my point negatively that wasn't my intent... if you can not handle criticism you should go back and read the forum rules...

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You say I'm disrespecting you but you're the one calling me names like "uneducated," "foolish" "ignorant"...really thats how you act when someone says something you don't like. Way to be unaffected!
Those are not names... those are descriptions of your current situation and behavior... you're not your behavior... I'm sorry that you took it like that... That's how I speak in person as well... only difference is my vocal tone and body language people realize that it is a criticism of their behavior not name calling... It's also in the forum rules that you should be able to take criticism... You're taking this personal it's not... I have zero investment emotionally in this discussion I'm simply observing your behavior... you're blindly arguing a point you don't understand... (the ego)...

The reason I wrote you were disrespectful was to illustrate a point... it's stupid ... sorry I thought you'd see what I was trying to do...

I apologize that you took my point negatively that wasn't my intent... if you can not handle criticism you should go back and read the forum rules...

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Where in take criticism does it mean I need to accept the things you say?
You are slandering me, distorting my position,and trying to control me without justification.
Honestly, I sincerely find you to be ridiculous because you say all this negative stuff without pointing out what you specifically disagree with.
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Return of the Dream, I don't respect you. End of the world, I know.

But seriously, when someone doesn't respect me I don't care. I surround myself with people who like and respect me, and don't surround myself with haters. Its that simple.

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I scored it 29-28 with the winner being dream for originality. I haven't seen this much sandy vagina in quite some time round here. I get all the objections but understand what hes saying. We call come from different cultures... say things in different ways. Isn't keeping good people around you a form of demanding respect? Great read...but we all are really just bitching over semantics aren't we?

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ROTD, look at your avatar. The girl in white blouse is disrespecting you by not grabbing your cock like the girl in blue blouse does. What are you going to do about it, hmm?

Female lovers generally respect a man who has a hard, throbbing cock. Perhaps the lady in white dress thinks otherwise...

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Where in take criticism does it mean I need to accept the things you say?
You are slandering me, distorting my position,and trying to control me without justification.
Honestly, I sincerely find you to be ridiculous because you say all this negative stuff without pointing out what you specifically disagree with.

My apologies... I assumed you were confident... my bad... confident people don't have issue receiving feedback...

You don't have to accept what I say... I don't care... it's up to you whether you accept good information or not. I apologize that you are unable to accept other people's observations of your behavior and tendencies...

This was a discussion keep that in mind... not an argument.

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I scored it 29-28 with the winner being dream for originality. I haven't seen this much sandy vagina in quite some time round here. I get all the objections but understand what hes saying. We call come from different cultures... say things in different ways. Isn't keeping good people around you a form of demanding respect? Great read...but we all are really just bitching over semantics aren't we?

^ that! this forum is getting annoying... Give freaking people a chance guys! wtf...

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