first mistake. never try take on kasabi in an online argument. I dont recall him ever losing one. The man is always right and thrives off others trying to take him on- this is his game, you wont beat him at it. I can just imagine his eyes lighting up and him rubbing his hands together when he logs online to see someone has challenged what he said.

Just to refer to the 'man who fucked 800 women' thread to understand this.

I dont know kasabis age, all I think I know is that he is a short asian man who lives in america. But from the sounds, he has a wealth of experience. Sometimes its best just to shutup and actually listen to what he is kind enough to share with you. its pure gold.

_________________
I'ma be what I set out to be, without a doubt undoubtedly, and all those who look down on me I'm tearin down your balcony, no if ands or buts, don't try to ask him why or how can he

People are adults and can make their on decision on who to listen and who not to listen, part of being a grown up.

_________________
Learn the proper way to maximize your results in a dancefloor/club environment, check out my blog and youtube channel:
http://www.dancefloorseduction.com

Dancefloor/Club game youtube channel:
http://www.youtube.com/dancefloorseduction

kasabi has been wrong tons of times(every human has)... notice how he hasn't returned to "finish me off"... that likely has to do with the fact that he realized how limiting and stupid this concept is... these are tactics people tend to use... not people. People who learn to use multiple tactics in the correct situation will always get laid than using one tactic or another.

kasabi has too many cult followers here... so many of you guys just thinking his word is pure gold.. this is a perfect example of him being wrong here... he didn't give 3 stages of people... they are stages many people do go through.. but the reality is he gave 3 different tactics... 2 of which will get you laid with consistency.... when used situationally your results will raise exponentially. However to go on and on about how he's always right just shows you to be a sheep... gain your own opinion don't just listen to him and assume he's right... look at all the evidence... some women need to hear some words to get turned on some don't... just be sure to be fitted to the woman... which has been my argument all along...

Note: You know that "man who fucked 800 women" openly challenged kasabi to a pua challenge and kasabi avoided it... and even disappeared for a margin of time... most of us who get laid think kasabi has a limited sex life... go look at that thread... you don't see anywhere that kasabi gives solid insight into him not getting laid... he might have "argued" with him but really that guy carried himself as a gentlemen whereas kasabi was a condescending, name calling, and no where in there anywhere did he prove that guy didn't get laid... when kasabi was openly challenged he ran with his tail between his legs. (calling you out on it kasabi... why don't you challenge sexaddict911 to a pick up contest? he challenged you put him in his place)... kasabi didn't win an argument his behavior was more like an obnoxious barking chihuahua that kept barking about nothing... and honestly for him to describe how a "man" acts that certainly wasn't the way men in my world act.. that is the behavior of middle schoolers and teenagers...

To kasabi: if you really want to prove sexaddict911 to be false and not someone who has "slept with 800 women" I will help you facilitate a PUA challenge face off... I'll make sure it's honest and everything. HOWEVER... you must also fulfill the challenge as well to prove you are an authentic PUA and not somebody who just tears others down while you yourself not being a guy that gets laid... otherwise stay off of his thread if you aren't willing to "prove him false".

Peace and Love,

Vic

_________________
Just another guy from back in the day.

Blogging again living life: http://www.Scienceofnaturalgame.com

Before any of you go further, I suggest you read my initial post again. I wrote that the AFC style verbal contract sucks. I think most of you agree. I then wrote that there are 3 different ways that work. I wrote that ALL THREE are ways that men can fuck.

^This would mean that I agree that there are many ways to do it. Yet, I continue to get push back for #3. NOBODY has come forward to tell me how #3 works. Everybody here continues to criticize #3. Yet . . .nobody knows what the hell it is. Please . . .somebody . . .identify it. Tell me what you think it is. . . nobody has done this yet. . .

Self-confidence/body language and now moderator man: I'd expect more from a moderator. Before you were a moderator, you could type whatever the hell you wanted to and you did. Often times, you sounded like an absolute moron but that was OK. . . you were just a newbie member. You are now a moderator. This means that if you DO NOT UNDERSTAND what the hell is going on, you do not harp like a seal nor do you criticize it but help facilitate discussion so that members here can have a better understanding. What is your value add to this forum? Your confidence shit is absolutely idiotic but yet . . . since you are a moderator after all . . I just let it go. Hey, I hope you make some money off of this forum. I hope kids harp like a seal for you.

On the other hand, you have absolute no grasp of #3. What is the point you are trying to make? You suggest I have things to learn. What is it that I should learn? Should I learn more of #1? (I already suggested that it works.) More of #2? (I wrote it down. . .) What is it? You are a MODERATOR: Think about adding to the forum.

Yea guys! i think you are being a bit nip picking, i thought the post was good, anyways, i did not like how he put down #1 or explained it, but other than that it was a good post and to be honest verbalizing sexual is not for everybody and especially new people, it takes a while to get the calibration down, and it easy to lose women sometimes doing that. All the bickering in the forum is what prevent people from not posting anymore... I think kasabi has a lot of stuff everybody can learn from, also he makes discussions more exiting and entertaining.... I am a fan of kasabi heated debates with other members...

_________________
Learn the proper way to maximize your results in a dancefloor/club environment, check out my blog and youtube channel:
http://www.dancefloorseduction.com

Dancefloor/Club game youtube channel:
http://www.youtube.com/dancefloorseduction

I declined posting a bit of info... felt it was just a waste of time... we both have our angles of courtship... one of us gets laid more than the other with far more consistency... I'll leave that there....

You are correct though... you did write them as tactics but classified them as 3 different men... it was another member who felt they were almost stages of puas.

Note: No comment on Sexaddict911 challenge aye? That is disappointing... I thought you'd prove to be "a man" and encounter the challenge... prove that the "forum retard" or was it it "forum clown" that you called him was a fake... I had already began to work out the details on it too... sad... I thought that was exactly what the forum needed to re-vitalize it...

THIS IS A WARNING: There is no need for flaming... if you can't get your point across intelligently then it's merely a disagreement... You calling me a moron... or my concept of confidence idiotic was not needed(in fact it shows this was personal, not a discussion, I discussed your behavior but not once did I flame you)... why was it even brought up? That's right a lack of your own personal confidence and self-esteem issues (those with strength in these areas don't need to constantly de-value others in an attempt to make themselves higher value).... You referring to Hellhound negatively is also uncalled for... If you can not behave like a mature man but a teenage boy perhaps you've outlive your membership on this forum...

Number 3 works basically off of silent leading or nonverbal leadership.... how did you miss that? Did you even read my post... on a side note people tend to fulfill expectations so when you have certain expectations and lead people will follow. I also said I understand your mention of it since I always use nonverbal leadership in courtship... however if you use nonverbal leadership in conjunction with turning them on verbally your job and getting laid will happen with regularity...

BTW your initial post had a huge lie in it... everyone decides by way of feelings... man or woman... that is basic psychology...

Note: How was I not helping facilitate a discussion? There was no name calling, we were discussing tactics... and I was merely pointing out that they were several tactics while you classified them as different people... Tactics that you may use even during different points of the same interaction... You turned this into a name calling contest when a few members disagreed... Why can't you handle a disagreement? Is this not simply a perception... You even stated this has not been my experiences... meaning this isn't what I interpreted from my experiences not "right" or "wrong".

Note: I've also been a member longer than you... so what is your point about me being a newb? In fact I guess I must have been out getting laid while you were posting here posting for hours... because until the last year and a half I only had like 800 posts....

Peace and Love,

Vic

_________________
Just another guy from back in the day.

Blogging again living life: http://www.Scienceofnaturalgame.com

I really do not wish to participate in the discussion of this thread anymore since name calling arguments do not achieve any purpose related to pick up or seduction.

I've seen how Kasabi argued with SexAddict911 in the epic 800 women thread. It's emotionally charged rather than reasonably grounded and heavily peppered with personal insults. Those discussions gave off the vibe (for me at least) that those were made not to enlighten us on women or seduction but the posts were pure and simple nagging from a grown up man.

However, for the purpose of clarification, the above quoted part from Kasabi is what made me think he is looking at these seduction methods or tools as stages instead of tools; where the highest 'form' of pick up is being "The Man" according to his terms.

_________________
Approach. Open. Escalate. Isolate

Here are my two essential rules on texting that will save you tons of time and money:

general-questions/topic137931.html

Clap, clap, clap.
So what should I learn? Where am I wrong?
WRONG. "Nonverbal leadership". . . - ha ha ha. . . Is this your take on the cliche' "Silent Strong Type"? Would you like to try again? Would you like to make another assumption so that you can criticize it?

You took offense that I told you that you've written things that make you sound idiotic. Wouldn't suggesting that a member learn "something" but being UNABLE to identify what that "something" is be idiotic? Wouldn't it be idiotic to criticize something you do not know or understand? Look above. 1. You just wrote shit out of your ass. 2. You've been criticizing THAT. 3. THAT is NOT #3. And all of what you just did in this thread is about as idiotic as claiming that decoding 1,000 different facets of body language = natural game or that have figured out some TRUE CORE REALLY, REALLY, REAL TRUE CORE SELF CONFIDENCE. Stop with the self mockery.

Who made you a moderator? "Revitalize"? You and the bandit of recent masturbating monkey members are what brought this forum down in the first place. Chill out, learn a few things. . . and MODERATE. That is your function here.

I think skills360 and kasabi post on forums too much to be getting laid. This is their life. Getting laid is not their life. That's not saying some of their comments won't help, b/c they are both intelligent guys. But guys who have a happy sex life don't have thousands of posts on numerous blogs and websites, many of which take 10 minutes to an hour to type. Another dead give away is that both of them get angry when you disagree with them on an opinion. If they had happy sex lives, they wouldn't care.

rooshv is another guy in their same boat.

^ I am angry??????????? lol! dude you don't know me, i am the biggest joker you will ever meet(my style in itself is humor and sexuality! Other than that! I have a financial insentive for posting, and you can find out if i get laid different ways?

1.- Field test my advise. Like a lot of the guys of this forum and other forums have, my blog, my coaching, and videos have. You can also see in different lay reports and in the chat how people give me credit for their lays.

2.- You can come meet me and we could go out.

3.- You can check my live unedited field/LAY reports.

4.- you can come meet me and sarge personally with me. ( couple of dudes have)

5.- For the right amount of money and confidentiality agreements i have a library of personal sexual videos.

By the way i am now commercial so the more i post and exposure= more money i make.

I do not mind you criticizing you are entitled to your opinion, as long as it factual...

But stop negging i am not hommo(but i come out live in couple of my videos, you could fap to those, probably you already have)... I see you been trying in couple of posts, so if you are so sexually turn on by me, imagine women??? And thanks for following my posts, i really don't follow yours, can you link me to your great advise....

Since you are so much into cold reading, let me try: You are projecting, in other words you are an angry compulsive fapper, with no post, or contribution, you are very tun on by me( i don't blame you), and you are tying to get my attention by showing me disinterest and negging me.(but for the second time i am not hommo)...


I really learn tons with your gay post here, and I see you criticize my time management and posting skills(by the way i live with my main girl that pays my bills, let me qualify myself to you, wink wink), i need to teach and post like this,

author wingintyme NO HOMMO:
over-200-responses-to-a-craigslist-ad-vt125960.html


my personal advise, and about myself i specialize in sexual trolling, you want to troll me lol, you need to step up your game this is free coaching next time i gonna charge you my regular hourly fee...


here is my method for amoging read it 5 times:

http://www.theskillsmethod.com/how-to-d ... ents-amog/

_________________
Learn the proper way to maximize your results in a dancefloor/club environment, check out my blog and youtube channel:
http://www.dancefloorseduction.com

Dancefloor/Club game youtube channel:
http://www.youtube.com/dancefloorseduction

You should learn that these aren't stages of a persons development they aren't 3 different men... they aren't something that only a "reverse contract man" does... they are simply varying tactics...LIKE I'VE SAID WHAT 20 TIMES? Please learn to read... I read that in like a 30 year old book by a biologist... In courtship you must be a responsive male... It's not new news... been around for a minute...

Backtracking a bit now aren't we? Kind of idiotic to backtrack.... Let's move on.... explain to me your concept of "the man".... since I seem to be missing something... You stated you never mention sex... it is never talking about sex... it's never inferred... then you when on for a paragraph explaining actions and how they relate and make you assume sex. (did you read your own post?)
Hmmm... how do you assume sex? Let's see how do you expect? NONVERBAL LEADERSHIP... do you not understand your own statement? Since you never talk about sex? This is the only other form of communication without specific mention of sex... Of course I was discussing behaviors... If I thought we were talking about how we present ourselves or our mindset this would have went down to more of an inner game situation... however you obviously regarded this as a behaviors, hence the word TACTIC...

Oh I was right actually and Hellhound listed where you wrote these were stages of a pua's development... which means I no longer need to secede that point away and I retract that former statement.

Stop mentioning my mod status that should have shit to do with our discussion along with our past arguments and my past views... why don't you focus on the current discussion? Is this a complicated task for you? My moderator status has nothing to do with the discussion we're having...

Stop making this a personal argument please... let's focus on the discussion.

Peace and Love,

Vic

_________________
Just another guy from back in the day.

Blogging again living life: http://www.Scienceofnaturalgame.com

thats what I'm talking about skills360. No one other than a virgin would go to the effort you do to post that. If you've ever had pussy, you wouldn't care what I said on here a year ago

Dude i totally care, cause transgender people are having a rough time right now, i had suspicion that you were a transgender and your post, prove to me that you are, no hommo. My gf is a nurse and works for a good doctor, also do not look for dick on craiglist, there are magazines targeted for your goal. I would help you as i help other people in need, so stop doubting my intention to HELP YOU, no hommo.

Start here dude:

http://en.wordpress.com/tag/transgender/

This is the only thing i ask in return for my honest and sincere help, if you get the pre-op or post-op and you hook up craiglist or whatever you choose, and you game the dude as he is doing you, and he is about to bust, please tell him that before he busts all over your face to yell : "skills is the name of the mothefucking game" really loud, as he is yelling that shit, is up to you what you decide to do with his sperm....

_________________
Learn the proper way to maximize your results in a dancefloor/club environment, check out my blog and youtube channel:
http://www.dancefloorseduction.com

Dancefloor/Club game youtube channel:
http://www.youtube.com/dancefloorseduction

My girlfriend is an RN. Who she works for doesn't matter.

See, that's another reason I don't believe you've ever kissed a girl skills360. You say you have a nurse girlfriend who works for a good doctor. But, the "good doctor" is irrelevant to the discussion. When you add details which aren't needed for your story, it makes your story look unbelievable.

Then you turn childish over this craigslist homo thing. Another reason I don't think you've got to first base with a girl. If you were happy with women, you wouldn't resort to childish tactics.

U mad bro??? You have to be the dumbest dude in the forum(see dumb people don't get laid, witti dudes do), you actually think i am serious( i say my girlfriend is a nurse, which she is, and works for a doctor in the context of your post op transgender surgery, get it?) .... Listen dude i am not hommo, stop hitting on me... Good luck on your future endeavors... Post pics of the post op and stop making stories up about dating an rn you have not seen pussy in your life, i detect a virgin posting, your style got virgin/incel all in your subcommunication.


Anyway guys for all of you that give a fuck wingintyme real name is nicky, here is his story:


[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uogeGn_fvyA[/youtube]

_________________
Learn the proper way to maximize your results in a dancefloor/club environment, check out my blog and youtube channel:
http://www.dancefloorseduction.com

Dancefloor/Club game youtube channel:
http://www.youtube.com/dancefloorseduction