By learning PUA youre changing everything about yourself based on what a woman wants.

Do that and you have already fallen into the frame that women have the power and you are forever playing catch up to them, just trying to get laid by doing what you think they will want, by using PUA techniques and acting how you think you should to try and win them over. dont sell yourself out this easily.

Happiness and confidence. The two traits that willl get you women above anything.

For the majority of you it is just a matter of gaining that confidence in yourself. PUA tricks are just a very tacky and somewhat fake way of gaining that confidence.

After browsing over the forum I see there and many of you falling into the frame of learning pua tricks just to get and be liked by women - you have already gone back 100 steps. IMO this is not a mindset you want to be in.

One of the most contradictory things about PUAs is that they say they its all about themselves when really its all about trying to please women to feel accepted as themselves.

just have a think and be careful what path youre heading down. bb

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Excellent post, pick up should be a secondary effect rather than the primary cause of your improvement. I remember that before I even had a clue about what pick up was a few years ago, I would approach women, and actually be fairly successful, because I had a lot of confidence to approach. Approaching/confidence really is half the battle, and that's all inner game. If you approach women consistently, you will likely be successful, at that point it is just a numbers game, and getting reference points.

I agree with the philosophy if this post somewhat; however, there are a lot of techniques that are important and worth learning. Not to mention, learning some techniques saves a ton of time discovering them naturally. I was not a natural with women at all. Having someone tell me to make eye contact with women when I talked to them was hugely helpful for me. Same with things like the 3 second rule, etc. There are a lot of good techniques out there worth learning. With that said, I do agree, in the end, if you become a confident, happy, high value person, you will get women.

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I understand your premise but disagree. The issue is just shallow people. Most AFCs are just kinda pussies. Weak humans... They put the cart before the horse... If I sleep with girls Ill finally be a man. In reality, if you become a man you get a lot of pussy. Learning the PUA stuff is more like faking it with a few also shallow female, somehow thats success. Winners will always find a means to do better and win. I like Blackdragon's stuff. He doesn't talk about tricks to get laid as much of how if live the life of an alpha male. There are avenues out there to become a deep man...but most of you wont chase it because its too much work and you're a pussy.

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"Every woman's a whore in the right situation"
"They're all selling it for something"
"She's sluttier than you think she is"

This ^^^

Alot of guys can't seem to grasp the concept of girls already have a pussy. They don't need you to act like one too.

Left out a few things...

SEXUAL CONFIDENCE... not just confidence... confidence in what? walking? talking? what? Confidence is situational it's not just "confidence"... hell Mystery had plenty of confidence with women... but absolutely horrid self-confidence... Sexual confidence is that point where you know you can make a woman cum long and hard.... repeatedly and therefore you aren't the one getting lucky... she is...

Self-confidence will gain you instant attraction in most cases... but self-esteem is actually what makes you shine... not self-confidence... high self-esteem helps you radiate outwards and attractive "high value" concept.

YOU ARE NOT YOUR TACTICS.

By that I mean using tactics doesn't change who you are... never will.

This is the problem guys that think all you need is self-confidence and happiness and you'll get laid... BULL SHIT.... I agree all you need is confidence and happiness, but you won't get pussy from being self-confident and happy alone... you'll get lucky here and there but the reality is you need to know how to escalate on a woman.. you need to understand women... you need to read her and react as anyone who wants to seduce a woman does... you need to know how to fuck her how she wants to be fucked...

You don't identify yourself with any tactic... or even your name for that matter... your job... or anything... you are the decider of your life... nothing more nothing less... your limitations are self-imposed based off of your beliefs... you aren't a leader or follower... you're a man that leads or follows...

This site is about seduction... you choosing to use seductive language when it's right because you want to fuck a girl isn't wrong... you choosing to lead silently to fuck a woman isn't wrong... the simple question is do you want to seduce women? Yes I do... I want to get pussy not lucky... This means a responsive game... this doesn't mean I change "who I am" as that's not even possible... I suppose I could change "what I identify with"...

The problem really is guys that think that you are a specific tactic... that you can only use one tactic... that you are a trait... that you are a job... sorry I'm not my job.... I'm not a "pick up artist"... I'm who I am and that doesn't change regardless of my behavior or "technique"... just because I vary my technique by knowing when a girl wants what doesn't mean I'm changing who I am or anything of that nature... in fact that thought shows you to be quite shallow tbh.... that you would perceive a man to be his techniques or tactics... ironically you tried to illustrate the focus on confidence while showing exactly how not to have it... by trying to "be something"... you are who you are that doesn't change.... NO MATTER WHAT THE FUCK HAPPENS...

You can never change who you are... NEVER... no matter the cock extension... no matter whether you have a 6 pack or you have a beer gut... you changing your appearance will never change you... and by that I mean the YOU that YOU truly ARE...

Yes you can gain self-confidence and happiness and you'll get lucky here and there.... but it's truly when you learn to sexually escalate and build sexual tension that you'll get laid...

Yes begin your journey by improving aspects of your self... start exercising, eating right, dressing right, build up your "inside" but be very aware this is the beginning and not the end of a journey... just because you can confidently talk to a woman... doesn't mean you can confidently escalate and fuck her...

The key to remember is... women are multi-dimensional creatures and it's important to be a responsive male... too many guys think there is "one holy grail" way to get laid... shit just doesn't exist... all you have to do is learn to vary what you do with the women and read and react to her in order to fuck her... it's a set of skills to fuck women that I base on yes SELF-CONFIDENCE, Happiness, AND SELF-ESTEEM (teach all 3)... but without those extra skills you'll get lucky here and there... if I wanted that I would have never joined the community I would have just gone into the self-help industry... oh that's right... Tony Robbins isn't creating man whores is he? Wonder why that is?

Peace and Love,

Vic

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