Why I am disillusioned

I'm becoming rather disillusioned with online "dating." Most of the messages I get are insults saying I am a douchebag or that they feel sorry for me. I kept thinking getting laid online would be easy.

I feel there are two factors at bay here:

A.) age range (I am 19)
B.) city -- I don't live in a major city

Many women will laugh or be outright offensive in their replies. Others will say "thank you" without looking at my profile and then once they do they will retreat.

Sites to try

I've tried POF and OkCupid to no end with variosu profiles and pics and descriptions. I have invested many more hours than anyone I know into getting this to work.

Besides these two sites, are there others you'd recommend?

I cannot get into Craigslist because they no longer take prepaid mobile numbers for activation. So that's out.

Anyone heard of "datehookup.com?" I've heard it's a scam. Other scams I've tried include "beautifulpeople.com" and hotornot, etc.

Perhaps women in their teens and early twenties are not looking to hook up online.

Do these experiences ring true with anyone? Has anyone else had women trying to change them or feeling sorry for them or calling them pigs just for wanting to get sex through the Internet? It really makes me sick, all of these baggaged and broken women who don't like sex.

At this point I'm realizing that OLD is doing more harm than good to my psyche and mindset--it's making me think women don't like sex or that I will never get laid. I think I will stop if I cannot figure out a better method.

Dude, cut that shit out.

I wanted to cry reading your post. Craigslist bro? Really? You mean to tell me you don't realize that shit SCREAMS desperate. Online dating is bad enough. Girls on dating sites (if they are ever real) are fucking insane or have drug problems or really aren't bringing anything to the table besides a sea food platter in their pants. And you are desperate for THAT? C'mon man. You're better than that shit. Get out there and talk to girls.

Dude, not helping.

If you wanted to be productive you could have shared your experiences online.

How many girls have you fucked?

It's only desperate if I was being a pussy, but I'm not. I'm trying hardcore sexual escalation online.

After re-reading your post, it's clear to me you buy into the "quality" girl PUA crap. Tell me, which would you rather have:

A few "good girls" who flake or
A pussy bouncing on your penis?

I did online dating before I even started pick up. Once I started actually going out and meeting women, I realized how much more fun and easier it is.

You would actually be surprised how it doesn't matter if one "high value girl" flakes when you've got 10 other ones lined up. I have girls who not only fuck like porn stars... But also take me out to dinner and buy me food, buy groceries and cook me food, do my laundry, clean up my house for me, buy me gifts, drive me places, ... shit, I even had a girl buy me an XBOX last year because she was at Best Buy and "thought of me." If anything, these girls don't flake on me anymore... They beg to hang out with me and get fucked senseless. You can also do that if you start looking for something more in women than a place to put your dick into. Women who have value will bring more value to your life too. You won't find women of value on internet dating bro. You may find a warm hole to blow your load into. But I would personally much rather be in my situation than in yours, searching for pussy online.

I don't disagree with you. It's just that I am trying to supplement my game because there are few hot women where I live and am I'm not 21.

I hate OLD and I wouldn't be doing it if I didn't have to. But I didn't make this thread for you to brag. I made this thread regarding OLD.

maybe making a female profile would give you a good position to see the female P.O.V. in online dating, an average girl not even a highly attractive girl will get 100s of messages a week, some of the more attractive girls will probably not even get to see all the messages

out of all the guys that she gets messages from, all she gets to quickly review is your opening message and chances are she's seem similar to it 100s of times and your profile picture

so unless the message strikes an emotional response from her or she finds you more physically attractive then all the other guys sending her messages, your chances start to diminish, and it's not even that you are not attractive or that women don't like sex, it's the fact that online dating is for guys who don't have the confidence to flirt with girls and ask them out face to face, that takes a lot more balls and will likely have a much greater emotional impact on a girl, a guy that actually found the courage to go up and meet her and let her know he finds her attractive is much more rare, then 1 of the 100s of guys on POF/okcupid/facebook who are desperately hungry for some pussy sending the usual pickup lines, hi how are you, compliments and random sexual offers behind the safety of their computers, nothing is different about this, it takes no risk/courage

on top of girls who get 100s of messages a week a fair bit of the attractive girls on dating websites are just fake profiles, people that create a fake profile and use pictures to get attention from the opposite sex or troll, the vast majority of girls who are very attractive already have guys asking them out and taking them places so there is no need in their social life to seek out online dating, it tends to be the unwanted girls and girls with interesting problems that seek out online dating, like extreme promiscuity, drug problems that lead to antisocial behavior, social anxiety, mental instability, physically unattractive to the point where it is there last hope and old women who just recently got divorced or have yet to be married

trying to get girls off a dating site although it may seem easier to your ego is going to get you much poorer results and girls on those site are in a much better position of power when it comes to dating, almost every single girl on those sites has her pick of the litter and can almost surely date up comparative to the options she would have in her regular life, the reason for this is those sites are much more highly populated by men then by women because it feels way less risky on a guys ego to get rejected behind a computer screen by someone he doesn't even have to feel judged by and can attempt to do/say what ever he feels like without any repercussions

the reason why you are probably seeing these butt hurt messages from women is because you have messaged them in a way they do not particularly prefer and probably get an ego boost out of putting you down for it, it would be like a girl asking to blow you and you telling her she is disgusting, it validates the person in power completely and devaluates the other party all together

my suggestions if you actually want any amount of reasonable success out of online dating,

-take better pictures (pictures of you doing interesting things, pictures of you with people, pictures of you outside, pictures of you showing different sides of yourself, and make sure you use a good camera, the better the camera, the better the pictures will turn out, how quickly will you be cast aside for a shitty cellphone selfy shot in your bathroom mirror)

-become better looking and more stylish (i'm not talking about just making average here, im talking top 20% of male attractiveness compared to all other men)

-the less you have going on for you of the above, the more you will have to be creative and trigger emotional responses in girls to get them to reply to the message, negative or positive a response is a response and you can work with that, get good at engaging the women that hit you up and actually get them interested in speaking with you and getting to know more, get them excited about meeting you, actually emotionally excited about talking with you, be more then just a penis, be appealing to the point where they want to see you for what ever reason, if that's your penis then what ever works for you but there is so much more you can offer to get a girl excited, just trying to sell sex to a girl is not that alluring unless you are much more physically attractive then all her other options or she is a promiscuous person, girls are already aware guys like sex and often are socially conditioned to play the role of the prize that has to be won, and when you win over the prize you get the sex, you have to just reverse this dynamic and get her excited to be with YOU not the other way around, other then that it's about becoming more then strangers, after she is excited to actually find out more about you and talk with you, you have to really get to know each other so that you are no longer a stranger, you need that trust and feeling of knowing each other to make it easier to get a girl to trust you enough to go back to your house and open her legs for you unless she is extremely into you or really desperate for sex, security is a big thing

-make sure the people that are messaging you are not fake accounts

What are you messaging to them? Online dating can never replace real life sarging, but I've never gotten replies like what you've described. Remember, if a girl rejects you, it's your fault. For girls to give offensive replies, it HAS to be your fault.

I hear where you are coming from, I struggled for years with trying to get lucky online dating but I finally came up with a pretty genius technique (that worked for my personality)

I posted it here and it got some good replies with ideas and suggestions that you can add for your personality

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