Thank you for reading my post.

Met this girl at a summer course. Medium raport, we spent some time togather at school, at cafeteria but never on an actual date. I escalated well, established an emotional conection and acted alpha. At the time she seemed into me. She has an on/off boyfriend (in her words "Sometimes he's a jerk, but sometimes he is so sweet") On one of the last days of school we were playing billiards at a local cafe when one of our teachers didn't show up and she had a dificult shot to make. I said "if you make that shot, I'm buying you dinner". And she made it.

One and a half weeks ago school ended and I got her number. Played text game with two message chains (one with six, other with ten messages) both some 4 or 5 days apart. I started both and ended both when I taught the conversation was at its peak.

Yesterday I finally asked her out. This is how it went:

Me: "Hey, brat! What have you been up to? No good, I assume..." 10:43pm

She: "Exactly LOL" 10:46pm

Me: "Figures... Well, a bet is a bet and I know you miss me already, so I give you the honor to join me for dinner tomorrw. Answer 1 for "yes" and 2 for "finally!!!". P.s. - wear something sexy, I have a reputation to keep." 11:03pm here I tried using the distractor technique to keep the pressure low.

She: "LOL No I won't! (dress sexy, it's more explicit on my mother tongue) I don't think I can make it, sorry. I'm grounded again" 11:17pm

Me: "For heaven's fuck... What have you done this time???" 11:20pm

She: "Arrived home late (again), without warning my father after he told me not to do it. And it was just today" 11:21pm Now, with this I'm pretty sure she is bullshitting me. We live in mediterranean europe, people here have dinner at around 9pm and go to bed after midnight. At this time of the year the sun sets nearly at 10pm. How is it possible that she broke curfew and was grounded if we have been talking since 10:30?!?

Me: "Tell him you are going with adult supervision. It's just a slight manipulation of truth..." 11:25pm I used callback humor on this one. She's 17, I'm 18 and I told her once that getting her in bed seems like a great motive to go to jail (altough legal age to give consent is 16 in my country you are a minor until you turn 18).

She: "LOL, it's true. Don't think it will work, it's all too recent. But when I can I tell you right away" 11:27pm

Me: "Good thing I have a good set of lungs, 'cus I won't be holding my breath. You're lucky I'm a patient man. Good night, princess. Call me when you change your mind" 12:10am I was unsure about this last text, but I wanted to leave it clear that she hadn't tricked me, I wanted to show I can deal with rejection in a mature way and I wanted to show confidence and tell "sooner or later you'll realize what you're missing", hence the call me when (instead of if) you change your mind line, even though I know leaving it up to the girl is the last thing I should have done.

She: "All right, kisses" 12:11am

Is there anithing I should have done diferent? And when should I text her again? She starts a new job tomorrow, so maybe in about 10 days time to ask about her new job and try again? Or should I build confort before asking her out again?

Thanks, Emilio

You're going to get about 20 diff opinions, some in agreement, others entirely different on what you "should" have done which are purely outcome focused.

You handled things pretty well, tbh. No reason to beat yourself up about the interaction because she couldn't/wouldn't meet with you. Sometimes we do everything right and the stars just aren't in alignment. Don't worry, you'll hear from her again just do your thing, practice w other girls and enjoy the process.

Thank you, my friend. Hope you are right.

You're trying a bit too hard.

There is one simple rule to texting and that rule is K.i.S.S. ( Keep It simple stupid)

These overly long messages and even the interpretations of what you were "trying" to do was just a bit much. In all actuality; what you are "trying" to do is irrelevant. What you do is all that has any relevance.

From the text I can tell you were trying to project some false image of yourself that you have created after reading one too many PUA Alpha male post. You like many others going to down that road just can't seem to figure out what they are doing wrong.

Innovate - Beta/Losers imitate the guys who are actually good thinking it is going to work for them. Until you develop your own style, you will only deal with low level women who have already been tossed around by whoever it is you are pretending to be.

And do yourself a favor and pick up the phone and call girls more often. One solid phone call has had girls chasing me for weeks asking me to hang out with them. And you're capable of the same thing.


My advice : Call her

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I agree.

We all love to act alpha, build a persona and use psichological tricks or routines and generaly reduce dating to a science, to something we can mesure, experiment and theorize on. We wouldn't be here otherwise.

But sometimes you have to throw the textbook out the window, drop your balls, and be yourself. You said this happened on Monday night and she started on a new job yesterday, right? From what you said I think you ran some solid game and there is no need to build more confort. Unlike JoeySkillz I do belive in subliminar comunication and you probably got her thinking. So now leave it on ice, if you're lucky she will think you lost interest and call or text you herself, if not, call her later next week to ask how she is doing and try again.

BTW, Joey, on another post you already higlighted the virtues of calling instead of texting. Care to create a thread elaborating on how to structure a conversation, topics, lenght, etc? Go on, sensei, teach your pupils.

I haven't read the replies but I think you're too gamey/arrogant.

However, she still cool with it but it didn't assist her into saying yes.

This is all you need:

You-" oh, that's fine, if you wanna go for a meal sometimes shoot me a text, take care "

Puts the ball in her court and you can move on with your life and not chase. If she likes you she will contact you, or try to continue the conversation where you can play it aloof and be the one being chased.

If she doesn't like you, she won't contact you. That's good news too because you are no longer wasting time trying to date an un-interested woman. WIN/WIN.

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Thank you for the input, guys!

Guess I'll wait until late next week and if she doesn't say anything I'll come clean and just ask her.

It's true I probably overgamed, but this was my first go at PUA.

Thank you all and feel free to give some more opinions.