What is this marketing? I'm looking to hook up with a girl, not buy a house... I do agree the distance is an obstacle, but not one that can't be overcome.
Once again, please enlighten me on why taking the longer approach is bad... I've still yet to hear a good reason for this one.
Did I even mention what her problem was?

It's actually nothing too bad (she's bipolar), which in all honesty isn't nearly as bad as my father who's bipolar+BPD (which was the issue I came to her for). Ofc, not many people can handle the depressive phases of a bipolar person and the shifts into mania which is characterized by ADHD and ocassional irrational anger. I had a bipolar friend once, he was my best friend in the world till I moved somewhere else.
Oh right...

Cause if you haven't fucked a girl after a set amount of time, she puts you in the "just friends zone."

It's funny how much insecurity that mentality can breed in people.

Dude, the "friendzone" doesn't actually exist, that's just a way of kindly putting someone down and rejecting them cause you're not attracted to them, simple as that. I would know as I've "friendzoned" dozens of girls. Personally, I've only been "friendzoned" once in my life and it was cause the girl simply didn't like me, but we had a very 'superficial' friendship.

Anyway, please enlighten me on why I'm already "in the friend zone" as you say, I could use a good laugh.

Please do.
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I actually learned that mathematical fallacy back in High School.

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Location, yea it is not insurmountable, but dude, it clearly way lowers your chances.

Attraction fades with time, excitement doesn't last for a long period of time, anticipation is one of the most overrated things in the universe when it comes to sex and attraction at least in terms of months and usually when there is mutual interest things end up escalating quickly which brings me to the friend zone point .. yea, i agree with you that the friend zone is a i'm not interested but it is an "i'm not interested sexually but could still be interested to chat you up on the forum." There seems to have been very little sexual escalation here from what I can gather which, if it hasn't happened yet, makes the odds of it happening lower.

Furthermore, you are entirely focused on yourself here. The reasons I listed also go for her not just for you. You not only need to overcome the location barrier yourself, but need her to be receptive to it also. Same with sexual escalation after a long period of platonic engagement, etc.

Yea, that proof is retarded, I know all these idiotic proofs that use only 1 of two roots to quadratics or hidden division by 0s etc.

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Fair enough, yeah I know my shots aren't the highest, but it's worth a go. You never know.

She's an ENFP so she gets easily distracted by shiny things like they all do, so yeah, she could very easily just walk away like they all do. However, ENFPs love people, and they are the most introverted of the extroverts (if that makes any sense), the fact that I'm an all around likable guy, physically attractive, with rare qualities AND I match up her quite well works in my favor, especially once she takes note of it. I actually have NO IDEA if she has or hasn't, but hey we'll see.

I agree on making the talk more... sexual. I've poked around it here and there, but not much as through text it can make you come off as a horny pervert than a suave sexy man.

I'll save it for the SPAM calls.

I mean, I have a lot of things against me, notably the distance, and given what you mentioned, yeah the time CAN work against me, and yeah, the fact that she could just grow bored with it. However, just as many things turn in my direction too, I wouldn't be bothering if they weren't. Also, think about it, why should someone get insecure over that? Relationships last.... a LOOOONG as time, if shit can't last online, it won't last irl. So if anything, it's just the way it was gonna happen anyway. If shit doesn't work out, it was never meant to work out, at least you found out before getting too attached. And on the subject of attraction, yeah it fades over time, but the spark can re-kindle many times over if the couple has chemistry. This happens in relationships all the time. It's not sex keeping a relationship alive you know. Also, the fact that it's easy to idealize someone when you know very little of them (which is very common online) also works in my favour, especially since my strengths are many and very good.

Plus, she's been keeping up our long ass talks for 3-4 months now.

Like, you've seen my posts on here, you see how long they are... My posts to her are about.... 10x bigger, and vice versa with hers to mine. She admitted to taking over an hour to type them up (especially since she lacks focus and gets distracted easily). I don't see may people putting that much effort into shit for THAT long. I certainly know I wouldn't if I wasn't liking her already.

It seems like you are just looking for positive reinforcement. These guys are laying it on real, for the most part. This one is long shot bud. The effort you would have to put in could put you in danger of being 'clingy.'

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Clingy?

Why? You mean cause of the effort put into her would raise her value in my eyes?

I don't really think in those terms. My personal philosophy is of just living life to the fullest and taking opportunities and seeing where they take you. This is no different in that regard. Also, I doubt that I'm in any risk of having that happening as I'm very independent and very much value my personal space, as well as peace and quiet.

I believe that if you begin to worry about how you're percieved by others, you begin to develop some nasty insecurities.

And I don't exactly see how putting effort into something has anything to do with being overly affectionate toward someone. Second, I don't see how this is any extra effort on my part than with any other girl who lived closer, the only "effort" would be in moving, but... as I said, I'm getting the fuck outta here in two years regardless, and then to another place, and another place, and another place, etc...

Anyway, I'm quite satisfied with the discussion, so yeah, I think it's best to just let this thead makes its slow march to 404, as coming back here makes me thing about her and this situation more than I'd like to. Especially since everyone keeps bringing up dumb bullshit that breeds insecurity such as "clingyness" and "friendzoning." Honestly, for a dating site that supposedly endorces being a confident man, you guys sure are an insecure bunch. Funny how 4chan of all places can be more... confident, on such matters than you guys.

Calm down. The length and intensity of your posts is backing what I replied earlier. I am 100% with you on the live life to the fullest, and to he'll with what people think of you. But if you truly didn't care, you would do outlandish things like go to work naked and do some questionable things. It is not to impress her but to play on some proven actions and emotions from women to give you an advantage. Just a leg up, hopefully. Take it or leave it. You came here though.

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I am calm, the length and intensity of my posts only tells you that I'm a passionate person that likes to talk a lot, nothing else.

I think I'm remembering why I left this community in the first place:

When you say "you're likely friendzoned'" I say, "that shit doesn't exist, and I can't be friendzoned as I'm a rare catch and only a stupid woman would do that."

When you say "you can get clingy" I say, "I don't worry about those things, I only follow with what feels natural and focus on the sensation of our interaction."

When you say "you're moving too slow as attraction wanes over time and she'll grow bored with you before it leads anywhere" I say, "there is no such thing as 'moving too slow,' as I'm possibly the greatest thing to enter into this girl's life, if she notices it and reciprocates before I grow bored of this, then I'll follow through and see where it leads me."

It's clear our mentailities are much different and I remember this was one thing that always bothered me about PUA, the entire focus of the interaction with you guys is on the girl. You place little focus or value on what you're worth and instead spend all your time analyzing what you can do to 'seduce' her and how she feels about you. You shouldn't care so much about that shit. If you were confident you wouldn't bother with it, you would see it as giving her an opportunity to meet a 'once-in-a-lifetime' kinda guy (cause that's how I see myself, compared to all the other guys, I'm miles above them). If she can't notice it, then it's her loss. You wouldn't be worrying so much about 'attraction waning over time' as you'd be confident in the fact that regardless of the time you take, you still have consistent value.

Idk, like I said, we clearly have different philosophies on the topic, but I notice that, you guys need to stop worrying so much about how the girl sees you, and focusing more on how you see yourself. Like the old saying goes, "how can you expect someone else to love you, if you can't love yourself."

In my experience, when a girl comes across a man that is unlike anything else she's ever met, she won't let him go unless he outright tells her to fuck off. That's all that matters man, being different, but by being YOU, not by pulling tricks or following dumb rules.

Just my two cents is all, I didn't mean to preach.